Confirmed Trade: [CAR/COL/CHI] Mikko Rantanen (50%), Taylor Hall, Nils Juntorp to CAR; Martin Necas, Jack Drury, '25 2nd, '26 4th to COL; '25 3rd to CHI for retention

[Connor McConnor]

You have to think this comes with an agreed extension.. no way Carolina gives up that much for a rental. Holy smokes. Don’t mind the return of the Avs at all, they are a well run org

 

[Strangle]

Are the Avs really gonna keep both Middlestadt and KK? Seems redundant considering their capt hits.

I think there another shoe to drop

I agree, if Colorado wants to be a better team than they were before the trade it seems like they need to make another move

 

[Regal]

I don't think Malkin making more than Crosby hurt Pittsburgh too much.

That’s a bit of a different circumstance given Crosby’s number affinity, but they also never had anyone make more than either of them until Karlsson.

 

[Alienblood]

Od

Some avs fans thought it would include svech lol

Isn't Necas better ?

 

[Brookbank]

Actually not bad from the Hawks pov. They gain $1,375,000 and a 3rd. Hall contract ($6,000,000), 50% of Rantanen ($4,625,000)

Bedard must be thrilled to see another NHL player leave the roster for a 3rd round pick

 

[Jixer19]

You have to think this comes with an agreed extension.. no way Carolina gives up that much for a rental. Holy smokes. Don’t mind the return of the Avs at all, they are a well run org

Was reported by one of the insiders that it is not included at all, shall see though

 

[ToDavid]

A lot of successful teams have done it in the past. The idea is that if you’re basing everything off the market, then you’re going to consistently struggle to get ahead. Everyone taking a little less falling behind their best player allows the team to stay strong.

Sure, but there's nuance to that. $13-$14m would still be "less" relative to cap growth, if it does hit $97m next year. In a couple years Makar is almost certainly going to be well past that if the cap is in the $110m+ range. Are they going to trade him too?

Colorado didn't expect these guys to take less than Mackinnon when he was on his ~$6m deal because obviously that would have been absurd because that deal was signed under a very different context to what Mackinnon became. Less extreme situation, but similar now.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Did you just say 15 for Rantanen? I know prices are going up but thats probably more what Kaprizov will sign for. Rants in the 12.5 range would be fine, I think.

15 has been the rumor. Would I was hearing was that the Avs were refusing to go above Mac’s contract and that’s what the impasse was.

 

[HockeyWooot]

Imagine

I could see Colorado making that swap too.

JT Miller and MacKinnon on the same team could be something. Either really good or really bad. Even thought I hate the Avs, I'd lean towards it would be excellent for them.

Imagining those two going off at each other haha

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

I don't fall for the Carolina hype. They are pretenders every year who are extremely desperate for a cup.

I sure hope Colorado is able to re-sign Rantanen because this is a huge loss for them If Rantanen doesn't go back to Colorado this summer.

 

[a mangy Meowth]

Some avs fans thought it would include svech lol

Share even one quote of someone saying this?

Anyways Svech is pretty disappointing. No reason he couldn't have been involved in this.

 

[HockeyWooot]

Wonder if if more Avs moves to come.

Crosby perhaps?!

 

[Avs44]

You have to think this comes with an agreed extension.. no way Carolina gives up that much for a rental. Holy smokes. Don’t mind the return of the Avs at all, they are a well run org

Friedman said no extension currently -- although I think the Canes have to open the account for this one after losing on Guentzel last season.

 

[periferal]

$1,207,000 for a 3rd round pick


That seems steep AF
Don’t understand this for Chicago

Legit don't see the problem. The Blackhawks just got anything for cap space they don't need. And that anything could turn into a 10-year NHL player if their scouting department does their job.

 

[Jixer19]

Sure, but there's nuance to that. $13-$14m would still be "less" relative to cap growth, if it does hit $97m next year. In a couple years Makar is almost certainly going to be well past that if the cap is in the $110m+ range. Are they going to trade him too?

Colorado didn't expect these guys to take less than Mackinnon when he was on his ~$6m deal because obviously that would have been absurd because that deal was signed under a very different context to what Mackinnon became. Less extreme situation, but similar now.

Biggest difference is Makar is worth more than Macks current cap hit, Rants is not (at least on the Avs) and if the Avs wanted to be able to have any depth alongside them

 

[Coffey]

I've heard Necas means "bad weather" in Czech.

@Czechboy does it mean moreso like "No time"?

 

[ryan callahan]

With Mikko out it opens the gates for a Halifax Mooseheads storyline 2.0 in Colorado. Drouin's role just got massively increased. He's been sick ever since joining COL. Rejuvenated. More dynamic, engaged in all 3 zones and goes to the rough areas.

 

[Vukotal Recall]

Friedman just tweeted that Colorado gets the 2nd but Chicago gets both Ryder and Halak.

 

[CaviarAndRinkFries]

 

[Divine]

That’s a bit of a different circumstance given Crosby’s number affinity, but they also never had anyone make more than either of them until Karlsson.

Well, yeah, they only had 2 players at that level. Most teams don't have 3 or 4 players than can be the highest paid salary at once.

Look at Colorado. Rantanen jumped over MacKinnon. Makar jumped over MacKinnon. MacKinnon jumped to the league's highest salary. Rantanen's turn came up and they said no thanks. Of course when contracts are signed makes a difference - why were Rantanen and Makar both making more the MacK for the majority of their careers?

Your scenerio doesn't happen often because it's not often you have two of the league's top players who sign contracts on different years under different caps. Like Kane and Toews were signed to the same contracts *at the same time*. The latter being the key point.

 

[Lonewolfe2015]

sure hope Colorado is able to re-sign Rantanen because this is a huge loss for them If Rantanen doesn't go back to Colorado this summer.

Near 0% chance imo. They would've just kept him if they felt they could or wanted to afford him.

Only way he comes home is he misses Colorado and will take what they originally offered.

 

[troyerlaw]

I don't fall for the Carolina hype. They are pretenders every year who are extremely desperate for a cup.

I sure hope Colorado is able to re-sign Rantanen because this is a huge loss for them If Rantanen doesn't go back to Colorado this summer.

They wouldn't do this deal if that was the plan. COL wasn't going to pay what Rantanen could fetch on open market

 

[benfranklin]

Anything less than 87 and I’m extremely disappointed for the Avs.

 

[Leafs1991]

LMAO colorado just slammed their window shut.

Far from it. They got Necas and Drury. That isn't a bad return for the current timeline.

 

[uncleben]

Friedman just tweeted that Colorado gets the 2nd but Chicago gets both Ryder and Halak.