BB88
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Trade: [CAR/CHI] 2023 1st overall pick for 2023 9th overall, 2023 61st overall, 2024 1st, 2025 2nd, and DJ Moore
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Unholy Diver
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If not two, Reich and Canales probably both fit the bill, maybe the 3rd time is the charm
Bears could have drafted Stroud.... That's also a measuring stick for them and Caleb.
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By most accounts Texans would've taken Stroud at #1
No idea if this would've impacted the trade up to #3 though (I doubt it)
Still such a shrewd move by the team to make sure they got their cornerstones at QB and DE. They trusted DeMeco to ensure they wouldn't have a pick that high again for a while.
It was shocking at the time that Houston dealt their own first vs the one from Cleveland. Most didn’t expect Houston to make the PO. In fact most would say it was likely a pick from 5-12. But credit Ryan’s for doing such as great job.
At the time neither Car or Hou were great situations. Just by on field talent Houston at least had Tunsil at LT. IKwonu still a work in progress with his pass pro.
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this is Jets tier team building, trading up for Darnold at #3 when the rest of the roster is the worst in the league,and his weapons would be considered bad in the AAFL
Getting a haul to help build a team around a QB isn't really comprable to nuking it for a haul only to pick a bust
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There was a Carolina radio caller who phoned into to talk about Bruce Young.
Guy said he is the prototypical Carolina fan, see ms every game on the television and gets to a couple games each season.
Said he knew Bryce Young wasn’t big like other QB’s and knew he was shorter. but when he saw Bryce in real life walking into the stadium, he really get a notion of how Tiny he is.
Guy said he is the prototypical Carolina fan, see ms every game on the television and gets to a couple games each season.
Said he knew Bryce Young wasn’t big like other QB’s and knew he was shorter. but when he saw Bryce in real life walking into the stadium, he really get a notion of how Tiny he is.
CAR opponents coming up are Home to Cincy, Road to Chi, Home to ATL, road to wash, Road to Den, and home to NO. Carolina could go 3-3 over those 6 games. Up to Bryce to step up in practice and see how the offense is supposed to be executed. Dalton isn't anything special physical talent wise. But, he's a vet and can run an offense.
Gets even worse for Young;
This is what myself and a few others were trying to echo; The team around him isn't actually terrible, it's just he's that bad he drags everything down with him.
This is what myself and a few others were trying to echo; The team around him isn't actually terrible, it's just he's that bad he drags everything down with him.
PeteWorrell
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I am convinced that the Panthers would have gone 0-17 with Young at the helm. There was absolutely no positive to his game and the players would have grown frustrated and given up.
BB88
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The media will just keep pushing for the excuse of how he has no help
They don’t bother going with the facts
Yeah it’s pretty obvious now that Bryce was the issue.
I don’t know how they saw his arm at workouts and thought he would be able to fit it into tight windows and throw over guys heads.
That’s a bigger issue than his size. Defenses only need to worry about 20 yards from scrimmage.
I don’t know how they saw his arm at workouts and thought he would be able to fit it into tight windows and throw over guys heads.
That’s a bigger issue than his size. Defenses only need to worry about 20 yards from scrimmage.
EpochLink
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Sending emails and texts to his friends about too many 'of those people' in the NFL probably.
Makes you wonder with Young, if he ended up in a non top 5 elite program (Bama, Georgia, OSU, etc), would he have done well enough to warrant being a top 10 pick if he didn't have a top notch OL and WR group?
Unholy Diver
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I mean they have a coach who resurrected Geno Smith, Baker, and now Dalton. How bad is Bryce that he couldn’t even be made competent?
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Young is such a bust that even if Williams busts as well, this trade will still be viewed as an enormous win for Chicago.
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Smith was athletic. Could run and had the size you expected from a QB. Bryce has no clear cut physical tools. If he's not accurate and getting the ball out quick, he's got nothing to save him if the play doesn't go as designed.
No Fun Shogun
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Young getting to Smith's level would be an astonishing improvement.
