Confirmed with Link: CAR Acquires Patrick Marleau along with 2020 1st (conditional) and 2020 7th for 2020 6th

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Because of his age, it looks like the buyout cap hit will be just this season at full salary.

Which is why Dundon/Waddell get a delicious 1st round pick for their troubles. It's still an amazing move by our organization.

 

[DaveG]

i don't think that's true. we bought out tanabe, hamilton, kaberle, brind'amour, and joslin during the 2005 cba.

I'll take it then. Anything to get Darling off the books

 

[My Special Purpose]

There's no way to look at this other than us paying $3.833 million ($3,416,667 this year and $416,667 next) for a first-round pick.

It's almost like Dundon said, "end this cheap narrative now."

 

[Mark Stones Spleen]

Grats guys. Always nice seeing the leafs suffer a bit.

 

[FreshSeabass]

 

[WreckingCrew]

The thing is, we're also doing SJS a huge favor by eating his cap hit in a trade or buyout so he can sign/play for them, so they really do owe us something for that. Otherwise, he rides the bench or gets suspended for going AWOL or something.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

i don't think that's true. we bought out tanabe, hamilton, kaberle, brind'amour, and joslin during the 2005 cba.

Not saying 3 per CBA is a rule because I don’t think it is, but if it were it’d be written into the CBA itself, so referencing another CBA wouldn’t prove anything.

 

[Roboturner913]

I was the one guy on here screaming about getting Marleau as a cap dump, and I'm glad that the Canes front office had the same idea.

I wanted to do the same, but I thought we could get Kapanen or Johnsson out of it.

It's not a bad deal for Toronto, as long as they don't make a habit of it....but looking at their history, we can guess they probably will.

 

[DaveG]

going to guess:

Faulk trade
Ned signing
Darling buyout

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

The thing is, we're also doing SJS a huge favor by eating his cap hit in a trade or buyout so he can sign/play for them, so they really do owe us something for that. Otherwise, he rides the bench or gets suspended for going AWOL or something.

We’re only doing them a “huge favor” if they actually want him.

It’s not like “gee you really owe us something, otherwise you’d be paying him $6mil”, as if they actually would’ve taken him at that cap hit without similar payment from the Leafs.

The favor we’re doing is for the Leafs. The Sharks are just getting the table scraps. I think if anyone’s doing the Sharks a favor it’s Marleau, who will now likely sign for cheap.

 

[Brock Anton]

Bought a 1st round pick. Cool with me.

 

[Lempo]

you know I just realized what the one annoying thing about this trade is: no buyout of Darling. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but you can only have 3 buyouts over the course of a CBA. We had Semin and Wiz.

Confirm. 3 for the duration of the 2013 CBA.

 

[Roboturner913]

There's no way to look at this other than us paying $3.833 million ($3,416,667 this year and $416,667 next) for a first-round pick.

It's almost like Dundon said, "end this cheap narrative now."

It's become clear the organizational philosophy is to stockpile as many high draft picks as possible and play the odds. This particular pick might not pan out but having 4-5 picks each year in the first two rounds eventually gets you a hell of a lot of good players.

 

[Anton Babchuk]

Confirm. 3 for the duration of the 2013 CBA.

source?

 

[Svechhammer]

We now have a boatload of picks for the rest of this year and next year.

This has the feeling of Step 1 in what could be a big day for us. We can now package a 2020 1st and 2 2019 2nds along with a player for a huge upgrade and still have all our own picks left

 

[Lempo]

11.18 Ordinary Course Buy-Outs Outside the Regular Period. Clubs shall have the right to exercise Ordinary Course Buy-Outs outside the regular period for Ordinary Course Buy-Outs in accordance with Paragraph 13(c)(ii) of the SPC. Each Club shall be limited to no more than three (3) such Buy-Outs outside the regular period over the term of this Agreement pursuant to Paragraph 13 of the SPC. (plus some text)

 

[Lempo]

source?

Lempo.

 

[Joe McGrath]

Isn’t this an ordinary course buyout inside the regular period?

 

[Nikishin Go Boom]

I hate this deal. The only way we should have taken on Marleau is to get better now. Not ask him to take away a roster spot from a good young player.

Might be insurance for an offer sheet but I doubt it.

 

[Tryamw]

11.18 Ordinary Course Buy-Outs Outside the Regular Period. Clubs shall have the right to exercise Ordinary Course Buy-Outs outside the regular period for Ordinary Course Buy-Outs in accordance with Paragraph 13(c)(ii) of the SPC. Each Club shall be limited to no more than three (3) such Buy-Outs outside the regular period over the term of this Agreement pursuant to Paragraph 13 of the SPC. (plus some text)

Query: (as I am not the expert) but that's 3 outside of the regular period of buyouts. When is the regular period of buyouts (I'd assume between seasons)

Thanks, regardlessly

 

[A Star is Burns]

Just a quick glance at capfriendly shows Calgary has had 5 buyouts since 2014.

ETA Nashville used 4 since I think 2015

 

[My Special Purpose]

It's become clear the organizational philosophy is to stockpile as many high draft picks as possible and play the odds. This particular pick might not pan out but having 4-5 picks each year in the first two rounds eventually gets you a hell of a lot of good players.

I want the pick to be top 10 next year so we can spend a year rooting against Toronto and their unprotected 2021 pick.

 

[Lempo]

Query: (as I am not the expert) but that's 3 outside of the regular period of buyouts. When is the regular period of buyouts (I'd assume between seasons)

Thanks, regardlessly

June 15 (or 48 hours after Stanley Cup conclusion) to June 30. Plus there may be another window if team got Arbitration(s). SPC Paragraph 13 is the buyout clause.

 

[Joe McGrath]

I hate this deal. The only way we should have taken on Marleau is to get better now. Not ask him to take away a roster spot from a good young player.

Might be insurance for an offer sheet but I doubt it.

They are going to buy him out.

 

[Chrispy]

But that’s “outside the regular period”. Doesn’t that imply there is a separate category for “regular period” buyouts?