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The Leafs were going to find a way out. They weren't just going to give up and fold or play over the cap. We got a freaking extra first for nothing major. Great asset to dangle in trades or for another great prospect.
Confirmed with Link: CAR Acquires Patrick Marleau along with 2020 1st (conditional) and 2020 7th for 2020 6th
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This opens up a world of options too....that 1st round pick can be an asset in another "trade".
Or anything?
If they can unload Marleau, they don't need to deal with the signing bonus that is apparently paid in July and December according to Friedman earlier this year.
31 Thoughts: Intrigue around NHL Draft starting to take shape - Sportsnet.ca
"4. Odd quirk in Patrick Marleau’s contract: his signing bonus is paid in two instalments, one in July, one in December. Remember, he controls his future, but that adds a wrinkle to any potential move."
Navin R Slavin
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16G 21A at 40 years old is pretty good. Interesting if we actually choose to keep him around for depth at C. Good veteran role model if Mister Game 7 decides to hang 'em up.
Lempo
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Maybe this is the end of Toronto-Carolina rumors? The Canes interests now lie in Toronto being as bad as possible next year. The worse Toronto is, the better their new pick is.
DaveG
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I can't see us keeping him around. More from the standpoint that I can't see he agreeing to anywhere but San Jose.
What I CAN see is us eating 50% and flipping him to the Sharks for something.
What I CAN see is us eating 50% and flipping him to the Sharks for something.
CandyCanes
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I hope this finally ends the talks that Dundon is cheap. He just bought a 1st rounder
Roboturner913
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You can never go wrong stockpiling first round picks.
I'll be interested to see if we can actually convince him to play for us. Obviously he's not "Patrick Marleau" anymore but he's not total junk either. I could see him fitting on Staal's wing nicely.
More likely we buy him out or just trade him to SJ outright, but, you never know.
I'll be interested to see if we can actually convince him to play for us. Obviously he's not "Patrick Marleau" anymore but he's not total junk either. I could see him fitting on Staal's wing nicely.
More likely we buy him out or just trade him to SJ outright, but, you never know.
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Well, unless they’re bad enough to fall into the top 10. Then it remains their 1st.
I don’t mind the deal, but I can’t help but think about how other players on the team think about this. If the rumors are true and we’re struggling to find common ground with Faulk and Aho on their new deals, it’s got to be a slap in the face to see us basically waste $6 million next year.
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Hey, I can finally post without being redirected by spam crap!! And Leafs thought they would get something of value in return for dumping Marleau lol
bleedgreen
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If you’re the Sharks and you already know he’ll only come to you, why give up an asset though?
Unless 50% retained is cheaper than you think he’s gonna sign for, which it seems they could offer him league minimum and he’d take it.
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I don't think San Jose could take him on at 50%, so probably would need to be bought out.
We won't be paying him $6 million unless he miraculously decided to play here.
We won't be paying him $6 million unless he miraculously decided to play here.
DaveG
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you know I just realized what the one annoying thing about this trade is: no buyout of Darling. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but you can only have 3 buyouts over the course of a CBA. We had Semin and Wiz.
TheReelChuckFletcher
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As it's a 35+ contract, the Canes will have to put $6M on the cap this year no matter whether they buy him out or not. It's still an incredible move by the Dundon/Waddell team to parlay that into an extra first. This is exactly the "get the popcorn out" moment that I was talking about for weeks. I was the one guy on here screaming about getting Marleau as a cap dump, and I'm glad that the Canes front office had the same idea.
bleedgreen
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Is it over the course of the Cba or just you can’t have three at a time? Not that it matters right now.
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DaveG
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If it's 3 at a time we're fine, but if it's over the course of the CBA then we're stuck with Scott.
My Special Purpose
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I thought of that, too, but SJ can't handle the $6.25 million cap hit. This whole thing is about that number, not the signing bonus ($3 million) or salary ($1.25 million). We'll save a whopping $416,667 to buy him out, but eat that entire $6.25 million cap hit.
There's simply no way we can trade him without his new team eating that cap hit, so it's either play for us, or buy him out.
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Because of his age, it looks like the buyout cap hit will be just this season at full salary.
Wiz is off the books, his buyout ended in 17-18. Marleau would be buyout #2, Darling #3.
James Wisniewski - CapFriendly - NHL Salary Caps
It is at one time, right?
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I think it is 2 trade retentions and 3 buyouts at any time. Pretty sure Wiz is done like Chrispy said as well.
Anton Babchuk
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i don't think that's true. we bought out tanabe, hamilton, kaberle, brind'amour, and joslin during the 2005 cba.
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