Speculation: Caps Roster General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines/etc) | 2024-25 Summer Edition

[Calicaps]

Bjorkstrand seems like a realistic target: rumoured to be available and I think would fit our system very well.

Also, for everyone worried about blocky Lenny, he only has 1 more year after this, which is perfect timing imo.

I'm not worried about actually blocking Lenny. I'm worried about Lenny thinking he's blocked and reconsidering signing.

 

[DWGie26]

I really liked the Eller move earlier this season. Then it looked bad. Last 8-10 games he has looked a lot better and scoring the last couple. I think he looks more like what we traded for and he will be fine.

I’d move McMichael for someone with term. Really the two I’d consider are Bjorkstran and Tuck. Not sure either will really be available. Both are right handed shots but that shouldn’t scare Leonard off. He likes to compete. And we play a lot of off hands at forward.

 

[Kolzilla]

Laughton is rumored to be available too. Anyone think that's a good option?

 

[caps4cup]

Bjorkstrand seems like a realistic target: rumoured to be available and I think would fit our system very well.

Also, for everyone worried about blocky Lenny, he only has 1 more year after this, which is perfect timing imo.

Yeah Bjorkstrand, Wilson, and Leonard could really be interchangeable as RW’s in the top 9 next season.

Ovechkin-Strome-Wilson
Protas-Dubois-Leonard
Cristall-McMichael-Bjorkstrand
Duhaime-XXX-Miroschnichenko

As a rough outline. There’s room for another top 6/9 RW.

 

[Ridley Simon]

Laughton is rumored to be available too. Anyone think that's a good option?

nah. He’s really good at scoring a lot of goals in any single game (3 or 4), but that’s it. He’s a binge scorer (Altho he has killed the Caps).

He’s a 4th liner on our team, and we don’t need another one of those

 

[Ridley Simon]

Bjorkstrand is a poor man’s ……..











































TUCH

(Yeah, I said it, LOL)

 

[Jags]

It's a forward group that could do some damage. Certainly not a top tier group, but adding a top 6 forward and pushing McMichael down to the third line could allow the third line to take slightly more and slightly tougher minutes which I think would benefit Ovechkin and Strome who aren't really capable of matching thr opposition's best.

Those are definitely real concerns, and I like Bjorkstrand, too. Doesn't solve the Eller problem. That line might be able to eat minutes responsibly, but McMichael's offense would vanish there. I agree Bjorky helps tip the ice in the right ways, but he's not a finisher and it's hard to score in the playoffs. That move makes us a better 200ft team if McMichael can impact the 3rd the way you think, but it'd be nice if they could also score. Eller's wing is where offense goes to die.

Lenny isn't signed yet, and until his John Hancock is on the paperwork, we don't want to do anything to give him the idea that he's being passed over or blocked or whatever.

I hate that rule for NCAA players, and I get the concern, but I really don't see that happening. And if he has that bent, I doubt it'll be over acquiring a TDL wing to shore things up for a Cup run. He'd have to have a pretty set idea of where he wants to end up, and *that* is what would be motivating him. So if he's determined to play for Boston, for example, he can do that regardless. The only real risk is to his reputation.

Seems very unlikely though for lotsa reasons, and I wouldn't alter my plans to build a winner this year by 1% on the off chance that some kid might hold us hostage over it.

But if you think that might tip him to do it and want to avoid it, I have an idea! We could keep the wings we have and trade for a 3C instead!

 

[usiel]

Hmmm forgot how farcical/illogical the trade suggestions are here.

 

[DWGie26]

I am definitely in the Camp of win another cup in next two years. Has nothing to do with record. But OV is a difference maker at 39/40. And yes I want to win another cup with/for OV. And we are right on the doorstep. Two year window. Plenty of cupboard and youngsters when he is gone. And let’s not forget the club who is Carberry and i think he only has two years left as well on this deal.

We don’t need another Dee. We don’t need a bottom 6 forward or center. But a true top 6 with one more year I like a lot. And we may have to give up a talent to get that. The top value pieces i would move for right value coming back: McMichael, 2025 First, Frank, Mangiapane. I don’t think any of those guys leaving hurts the room.

 

[Melkor]

The only potentially available players that I'd trade the first for right now are Boeser and ROR. I do not consider a 27 to 32 pick that valuable regardless of how good the draft is especially if you have a pick in the upper part of the 2nd round. It's essentially the same caliber of players that are available in that range.
ROR would solidify this lineup, beefing up any line for the playoffs in many regards. He's not young but if it's him for a 1st....honestly I believe he's got a way better chance to leave a mark on this franchise than a pick that low. And that's all you have to take into account before pulling the trigger.
Boeser is a proven scorer. He's not Marner or Kaprizov, he won't carry the play that much and won't stand out defensively but his shot is elite, he's still relatively young, he's consistent stats wise. And he'd fit well with the amount of blondies they have in Sandin, Eller and Chychrun.


As for Leonard..if he's as good as he and many others think he is, there's no deadline move potentially on hands that should stop him from signing. Put your money where your mouth us. Sign the papers and take the job you want.

 

[Caps8112]

The only potentially available players that I'd trade the first for right now are Boeser and ROR. I do not consider a 27 to 32 pick that valuable regardless of how good the draft is especially if you have a pick in the upper part of the 2nd round. It's essentially the same caliber of players that are available in that range.
ROR would solidify this lineup, beefing up any line for the playoffs in many regards. He's not young but if it's him for a 1st....honestly I believe he's got a way better chance to leave a mark on this franchise than a pick that low. And that's all you have to take into account before pulling the trigger.
Boeser is a proven scorer. He's not Marner or Kaprizov, he won't carry the play that much and won't stand out defensively but his shot is elite, he's still relatively young, he's consistent stats wise. And he'd fit well with the amount of blondies they have in Sandin, Eller and Chychrun.


As for Leonard..if he's as good as he and many others think he is, there's no deadline move potentially on hands that should stop him from signing. Put your money where your mouth us. Sign the papers and take the job you want.

both suggestions are good. The caps need another goal scorer imo. Ovi scored a lot of goals when they won the cup but they also got 7 plus goals from 4 other guys. If they were to go on a run this postseason, not sure I see Ovi being able to carry them in that department again. Adding a goal scoring top 6 guy could offset that Ovi is old now. Otherwise i like that they can roll 4 lines.

 

[Random schmoe]

Hmmm forgot how farcical/illogical the trade suggestions are here.

If you REALLY want a laugh/cry/eye roll, check out the trade proposals on PuckPedias RealGM board.

 

[Pigskin]

If you REALLY want a laugh/cry/eye roll, check out the trade proposals on PuckPedias RealGM board.

Didnt know that existed, won't be going there again

 

[Random schmoe]

Didnt know that existed, won't be going there again

To be fair, it can be useful for checking whether trades and contract ideas fit within a team's cap. I use it for that, but don't actually save any of the rosters I create.

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

1230 est start time. And its not a TV game. Ill have to find a stream

 

[Cappy76]

The only potentially available players that I'd trade the first for right now are Boeser and ROR. I do not consider a 27 to 32 pick that valuable regardless of how good the draft is especially if you have a pick in the upper part of the 2nd round. It's essentially the same caliber of players that are available in that range.
ROR would solidify this lineup, beefing up any line for the playoffs in many regards. He's not young but if it's him for a 1st....honestly I believe he's got a way better chance to leave a mark on this franchise than a pick that low. And that's all you have to take into account before pulling the trigger.
Boeser is a proven scorer. He's not Marner or Kaprizov, he won't carry the play that much and won't stand out defensively but his shot is elite, he's still relatively young, he's consistent stats wise. And he'd fit well with the amount of blondies they have in Sandin, Eller and Chychrun.


As for Leonard..if he's as good as he and many others think he is, there's no deadline move potentially on hands that should stop him from signing. Put your money where your mouth us. Sign the papers and take the job you want.

Just a few of our own late 1st

27 pick - Carlson
26 pick - Kuznetsov
29 pick - Green

Other notable late 1st draftees

26 Oettinger, 26 Tage Thompson, 25 Pastrnak, 26 Theodore, 28 Kulich, 28 Cowen

Giving up a first for ROR who wouldn't be playing a top 6 role probably wouldn't be the wisest move. Boeser would give me pause he's a 20+ goal guy other than last years 40 could Carbs get that back out of him?

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Just a few of our own late 1st

27 pick - Carlson
26 pick - Kuznetsov
29 pick - Green

Other notable late 1st draftees

26 Oettinger, 26 Tage Thompson, 25 Pastrnak, 26 Theodore, 28 Kulich, 28 Cowen

Giving up a first for ROR who wouldn't be playing a top 6 role probably wouldn't be the wisest move. Boeser would give me pause he's a 20+ goal guy other than last years 40 could Carbs get that back out of him?

Never a more true weapon than hindsight…I raise you Lujo 28, AA 31, Finley 27.

Can’t manage with FOMO. Caps should be loading up for this run and next.

 

[Ridley Simon]

I mean, I’m a vacuum, I’d rather deal Lapierre than the 1st. Really comes down to what other clubs value.

You will usually see a team that “really liked” a prospect going into that particular draft year, miss out on them (got taken before they could go), and then are happy to get him somewhere down the line.

So some team that really liked Lapierre his draft year, may want him over the 2025 1st.

But if it’s the 1st that gets you the top 9 player you really want, well, bye bye 1st.

 

[Cappy76]

Never a more true weapon than hindsight…I raise you Lujo 28, AA 31, Finley 27.

Can’t manage with FOMO. Caps should be loading up for this run and next.

I don't disagree just pointing out that late 1st do turn into more than nothing. It was being thrown out there that late first have no value or less impact than an older ROR.

 

[Melkor]

I don't disagree just pointing out that late 1st do turn into more than nothing. It was being thrown out there that late first have no value or less impact than an older ROR.

It hasn't been thrown out that late first has no value lol. It's obvious that what I'm saying is the percentage of players picked in that range who had turned out to be of ROR level is crazy low (don't ask me for numbers, I don't care enough to dive into calculations, it's just something as certain as life, death and taxes). I take a ROR today over I don't know who-I don't know when at 27th pick without a doubt.

 

[Melkor]

Boeser would give me pause he's a 20+ goal guy other than last years 40 could Carbs get that back out of him?

Boeser averaging 30 goals and 65 pts over an 82 game season at this point of his career. That's a sample size of 517 games. Good enough to spend a first I think.

 

[Cappy76]

Boeser averaging 30 goals and 65 pts over an 82 game season at this point of his career. That's a sample size of 517 games. Good enough to spend a first I think.

Averaging in 82 games..... checks stats never has played 82 games in a year, has only scored 30 goals in a season 1.5 (I'll give him a .5 for his 29 goal season) times and only over 60 points once over his 8 seasons. Averages are fun.

So yea I'd pause on Boeser if he simply cost our 1st but I'd imagine they'd want more.

 

[MW6]

Boeser averaging 30 goals and 65 pts over an 82 game season at this point of his career. That's a sample size of 517 games. Good enough to spend a first I think.

do you think Ovi (shooter) - Strome (shooter) - Boeser (shooter) would work, or do you want to split the amazing Protas-Dubois-Wilson line?

I actually think this team have enough players that can put the puck in the net. I think they need a creator, someone that can enter the OZ on the power play, someone that can draw attention away from Ovi and Strome etc..

 

[DWGie26]

This years first also has to be viewed differently, not just because of it being a low pick but also because we have a great looking prospect pool right now. When we drafted McMichael, Lapierre, and Miro, those were all picks we needed to hit and they did.

What we need now is a true proven top 6. So we can move an asset or two for the right guy. I don’t feel the need for a bottom 6 depth player right now.

 

[Kolzilla]

do you think Ovi (shooter) - Strome (shooter) - Boeser (shooter) would work, or do you want to split the amazing Protas-Dubois-Wilson line?

I actually think this team have enough players that can put the puck in the net. I think they need a creator, someone that can enter the OZ on the power play, someone that can draw attention away from Ovi and Strome etc..

Careful, sounds exactly like you're describing Mitch Marner...