Speculation: Caps Roster General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines/etc) | 2024-25 Summer Edition

[MW6]

I’m bored.. Who says no in this 3-way trade:

Caps get:
Mitch Marner (10,903 x1yr UFA)

Leafs get:
Rasmus Andersson (4,6 x2yr UFA)
Andrew Mangiapane (5,8 x1yr UFA)
Caps 2026 1st

Flames get:
Connor McMichael (2,1 x 2yr RFA)
Timothy Liljegren (3,0 x2yr RFA)

- Caps get their point producer post-Ovie
- Flames get younger and deeper and more cost controlled years
- Leafs get cap relief, a 1RHD and a hardworking jack of all trades who can play anywhere in the top-9 basically.

 

[Random schmoe]

I don't know enough about the 'needs' for the Leafs and Flames to judge every party. But I wouldn't want the Caps to give up those 3 pieces for a guy who is a pending UFA. I don't think the idea of that matches what they're trying to do.

 

[Brian23]

I’m bored.. Who says no in this 3-way trade:

Caps get:
Mitch Marner (10,903 x1yr UFA)

Leafs get:
Rasmus Andersson (4,6 x2yr UFA)
Andrew Mangiapane (5,8 x1yr UFA)
Caps 2026 1st

Flames get:
Connor McMichael (2,1 x 2yr RFA)
Timothy Liljegren (3,0 x2yr RFA)

- Caps get their point producer post-Ovie
- Flames get younger and deeper and more cost controlled years
- Leafs get cap relief, a 1RHD and a hardworking jack of all trades who can play anywhere in the top-9 basically.

I would say everyone but the Flames...? This is ridiculous.

Feel like every team but the Flames get worse in this scenario, and they only had to give up one meh asset?

 

[MW6]

I don't know enough about the 'needs' for the Leafs and Flames to judge every party. But I wouldn't want the Caps to give up those 3 pieces for a guy who is a pending UFA. I don't think the idea of that matches what they're trying to do.

I would assume they’re allowed to speak with Marner’s agent before the trade to work out the details of an 8 year, 96M$ deal.
Mangiapane will probably won’t be re-signed anyway and that 1st round pick will hopefully be a late one.
McMichael is an attractive piece right now as he’s both producing and can play both C/W.

 

[MW6]

I would say everyone but the Flames...? This is ridiculous.

Feel like every team but the Flames get worse in this scenario, and they only had to give up one meh asset?

I think you’re really underestimating Rasmus Andersson. Or am I overestimating him? Because IMO he’s a cheap, fast top pairing RHD that put up points. 0.6 pts/game going back 3 seasons on the flames. Plays 23+ min/game, both on the PP and the PK.

 

[Ridley Simon]

I personally don’t like Marner much. If the team is going to give out a 12m a yr contract to someone — I’m pretty sure I don’t want it to be for him.

 

[qc14]

I’m bored.. Who says no in this 3-way trade:

Caps get:
Mitch Marner (10,903 x1yr UFA)

Leafs get:
Rasmus Andersson (4,6 x2yr UFA)
Andrew Mangiapane (5,8 x1yr UFA)
Caps 2026 1st

Flames get:
Connor McMichael (2,1 x 2yr RFA)
Timothy Liljegren (3,0 x2yr RFA)

- Caps get their point producer post-Ovie
- Flames get younger and deeper and more cost controlled years
- Leafs get cap relief, a 1RHD and a hardworking jack of all trades who can play anywhere in the top-9 basically.

Flames say no quickest, then Caps, then Leafs.

 

[g00n]

We did luck into Backstrom, Oshie and Kuzy cap disappeared. But I agree, we are nicely perched. We always knew it needed to be a mix between young and old.

I don't think it was luck. I think they knew those guys probably wouldn't play out their entire contracts when they were signed.

 

[Kolzilla]

I think you’re really underestimating Rasmus Andersson. Or am I overestimating him? Because IMO he’s a cheap, fast top pairing RHD that put up points. 0.6 pts/game going back 3 seasons on the flames. Plays 23+ min/game, both on the PP and the PK.

I personally would rather have Andersson than Marner

 

[Brian23]

I think you’re really underestimating Rasmus Andersson. Or am I overestimating him? Because IMO he’s a cheap, fast top pairing RHD that put up points. 0.6 pts/game going back 3 seasons on the flames. Plays 23+ min/game, both on the PP and the PK.

I had him and the other RD Rasmus swapped in my head, Ristolainen, so no not a meh asset. I was wrong.

Still, two cheaper top 6 forwards and a 1st for maybe one year of a top line, extremely expensive player, is big no no for me.

 

[TheSmokingMan]

Just looked at the stat line on Hendrix Lapierre and it's much worse than I thought. He has played 6 games, with 0 points, only 4 shots on goal, and a team worst -4. He is one of only 3 roster players who has a negative +/- (the other two are Roy and Milano). He's been getting about 10 minutes TOI average. I know it's important to give a player a chance to get out of a slump, but you can't keep him in the lineup with these sort of numbers forever.

Does he need new line mates? Maybe the coaches have him working on a part of his game and he is overthinking things and becoming more hesitant. I don't often see him turn on the jets and try to make something happen. The creativity in his game seems to be missing. How much longer do we give him to turn it around before we sit him or send him down to Hershey?

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Just looked at the stat line on Hendrix Lapierre and it's much worse than I thought. He has played 6 games, with 0 points, only 4 shots on goal, and a team worst -4. He is one of only 3 roster players who has a negative +/- (the other two are Roy and Milano). He's been getting about 10 minutes TOI average. I know it's important to give a player a chance to get out of a slump, but you can't keep him in the lineup with these sort of numbers forever.

Does he need new line mates? Maybe the coaches have him working on a part of his game and he is overthinking things and becoming more hesitant. I don't often see him turn on the jets and try to make something happen. The creativity in his game seems to be missing. How much longer do we give him to turn it around before we sit him or send him down to Hershey?

“Forever” no you’re right, they can’t do it forever.

 

[Calicaps]

Just looked at the stat line on Hendrix Lapierre and it's much worse than I thought. He has played 6 games, with 0 points, only 4 shots on goal, and a team worst -4. He is one of only 3 roster players who has a negative +/- (the other two are Roy and Milano). He's been getting about 10 minutes TOI average. I know it's important to give a player a chance to get out of a slump, but you can't keep him in the lineup with these sort of numbers forever.

Does he need new line mates? Maybe the coaches have him working on a part of his game and he is overthinking things and becoming more hesitant. I don't often see him turn on the jets and try to make something happen. The creativity in his game seems to be missing. How much longer do we give him to turn it around before we sit him or send him down to Hershey?

IINM at least three of those minuses were in game 1. The line's been an offensive dead zone, but they've done fine defensively.

 

[usiel]

Kinda felt like one of the games that the caps were not going to score but not that they were playing terrible other than the PP. As far as the PP even when they get setup it doesn't feel very decisive.

 

[Kuz]

Yeah, no luck and a hot goalie. Definitely in the game and played to their level on the ice, but sometimes the puck just bounces the wrong way. Its a reason why its best of 7 in the playoffs as any team can beat another with some lucky bounces and a hot goalie on a single night.

Facing NYR that are probably the best team along with Florida in the east so lets see if they can put up a good game and bounce back from this loss.

 

[Holtbyisms]

"we're probably not going to go 81-1" - PLD

 

[trick9]

Just looked at the stat line on Hendrix Lapierre and it's much worse than I thought. He has played 6 games, with 0 points, only 4 shots on goal, and a team worst -4. He is one of only 3 roster players who has a negative +/- (the other two are Roy and Milano). He's been getting about 10 minutes TOI average. I know it's important to give a player a chance to get out of a slump, but you can't keep him in the lineup with these sort of numbers forever.

Does he need new line mates? Maybe the coaches have him working on a part of his game and he is overthinking things and becoming more hesitant. I don't often see him turn on the jets and try to make something happen. The creativity in his game seems to be missing. How much longer do we give him to turn it around before we sit him or send him down to Hershey?

xGF shares have that line doing fine, just snakebit.

Andrew Mangiapane - 66.53%
Hendrix Lapierre - 54.35%
Jakub Vrana - 51.38%

Need to start finishing their chances at some point. But they have been getting chances.

 

[Chokingdogs]

"we're probably not going to go 81-1" - PLD

I always enjoy sarcastic truth, from pro athletes, when asked stupid questions.

I assume that response was due to a ? along those lines.