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Yes, PLD has good numbers and the eye test says he is earning them. Grinding every shift, big skills, playing the catalyst in small ways that don’t show up on the score sheet.
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Yes, PLD has good numbers and the eye test says he is earning them. Grinding every shift, big skills, playing the catalyst in small ways that don’t show up on the score sheet.
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The biggest surprise to me has been that the Caps are using his line in a "power vs power" role. I was expecting his line to need to be sheltered, but it's been the opposite. They're not getting the insane deployments of the Dowd line, but his line is being sent out primarily against other teams' top lines and they're more than holding their own. If he ends up being a ~60 point center while handling that role he'll be worth his contract and that trade will be a massive win for the Caps.
He's also got more snarl to his game than I expected. Maybe too much - it's leading to some penalties. Considering he came in with a rep for being disengaged though this feels like a good problem to have.
Overall I'd say his impact is better than his boxcar stats suggest, and his boxcars aren't bad on their own.
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PLD is a much stronger possession player than I expected, and his zone entries are as strong as advertised. What's surprising is that there's more go-f***-yourself-ness to his game than you would have anticipated from a guy with such a rep for being soft and not caring.
PLD actually leads us in PIM’s which i was surprised to see, but I’m ok with that.
As you noted, PLD line (with McMichael and Wilson) is getting top line minutes. More than OV’s first line for sure. It’s been our best line.
to me, what i have noticed most about PLD is his ability to carry the puck in the zone and use his body to keep control of the puck. I think that is leading to a lot of the success of that line. And then they are all strong bodies so it is a tough line to play against. Chemistry is strong!
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PLD is 7th in minor penalties since the start of last season so the dumb penalties have always been there.
I mostly watched Dubois in Winnipeg. The penalties shouldn’t be a surprise. When he was at his best with the Jets he was a MFer out there. He wasn’t taking little hooking and tripping penalties, more the roughing and cross checking, taking another guy with him to the box, which I’ll take on my team anytime.
I don’t know what happened to him in LA but there is some good potential for him to really make the Kings look bad trading him so quick. Hope to see him do well.
I don’t know what happened to him in LA but there is some good potential for him to really make the Kings look bad trading him so quick. Hope to see him do well.
I thought of Robertson. Top forward on an elite team.
I really like what PLD brings. He still has headroom though, but i think he will continue to grow into this team and room across the year and hopefully give us 6-7M of value. He is set up for failure at 8.5M. But if he can continue to be a quality top 6 buy i am fine with his contract as part of the other moves (like getting rid of Keumper).
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Strome’s deal as our other top C helps offset it too. Not to mention we’re getting amazing value from Chuck and LT.
Really it’s just this contract and Sandin’s that are questionable right now (tho I could be blanking on someone).
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Yeah…ovechkin is not exactly providing 9.5m of value.
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I think the Ovi contract (and Backstrom) gets a bit of a pass because what were they going to do, not re-sign Ovi?
Sandin is the only real bad one for me. PLD and Wilson are both making like 20% more than they should and have back-breaking potential but also have the talent to somewhat live up to the deals.
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Ovie's value to this organization is immeasurable, even now that his on-ice contributions aren't so impressive. He turned the Caps from a joke to one of the must-watch teams in the league. When he finally hits 895---and then 900!--he'll once again increase the profile and value of the whole franchise. He's worth every penny of that contract and more.
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Its funny we are calling players on our best line overpaid. That line has been one of the top in the league so far. Well worth the price tag.
I like our whole cap situation. This year. Next year. Post OV.
I feel like Caps had the right strategy coming out of cup win (resign OV, Backstrom, Oshie), but luck didn’t go their way at all.
The way they have drafted and architected contracts the last 3 years, and when they expire is really well done. We have also benefited from good fortune on the moves. McMichael, Lapierre, Miro first round picks look like hits. Protas has exceed third round expectations. Fever has become a top 6 defenseman. Goalie situation has gone well. More solid prospects in system.
In short gotta have some good fortune to go with good strategy. Hope it continues.
I feel like Caps had the right strategy coming out of cup win (resign OV, Backstrom, Oshie), but luck didn’t go their way at all.
The way they have drafted and architected contracts the last 3 years, and when they expire is really well done. We have also benefited from good fortune on the moves. McMichael, Lapierre, Miro first round picks look like hits. Protas has exceed third round expectations. Fever has become a top 6 defenseman. Goalie situation has gone well. More solid prospects in system.
In short gotta have some good fortune to go with good strategy. Hope it continues.
Real difference maker for what we did in summer was buying capfriendly.
Every contract is looking closer to its value right now.
Every contract is looking closer to its value right now.
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We did luck into Backstrom, Oshie and Kuzy cap disappeared. But I agree, we are nicely perched. We always knew it needed to be a mix between young and old.
Would you guys entertain a Ryan Leonard for Simon Nemec trade? NJD are deep on the back end and might consider moving the recent 2nd OA pick. Caps would probably get their Carlson replacement. I’m torn myself as I really like everything Leonard will bring, but #1 RHD’s doesn’t come around very often.
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I’ll take both your wise words for it, haven’t watched him enough to form an opinion myself. He was a healthy scratch last game and NJD have Hamilton, Pesce, Kovacevic and Casey as RHD’s
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