Speculation: Caps Roster General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines/etc) | 2023-24 Regular Season Edition

[Kalopsia]

Oh boy, this sounds like a Backstrom situation again.

 

[hockeykicker]

What are the QOs? Anyone know?

 

[kicksavedave]

Oh boy, this sounds like a Backstrom situation again.

I read it as he won't play if he doesn't "find a solution", not as "I'm going to give it a try and see what happens". I doubt any permanent solution is forthcoming that his previous doctors simply haven't thought of.

Prediction, he'll be on LTIR all season.

 

[895]

I wish Oshie all the best.

Hopefully he can come to a decision soon so we can do something with his LTIR relief space.

 

[g00n]

Love ya, Oshbabe. But protect ya neck. And back. And dome.

Hang em up and golf with me, bruh.

 

[Devil Dancer]

I'm not a capologist, but aren't the Backstrom and Oshie contracts still limitations in free agency? I thought LTIR relief didn't exist in the offseason and teams can only go over the cap by a certain percentage.

 

[hockeykicker]

I'm not a capologist, but aren't the Backstrom and Oshie contracts still limitations in free agency? I thought LTIR relief didn't exist in the offseason and teams can only go over the cap by a certain percentage.

 

[Misery74]

LTIR Oshie until playoffs start.

 

[stephenball]

I feel like it’s hard for Oshie to hang them up because he loves the sport so much and I think he’s legitimately a guy who doesn’t want to let the fans down. While we would all miss him on the ice, I think it’s safe to say he’s become one of the all time most beloved Caps, I feel like most of us fans would rather have him hang them up. Not just for Cap reasons, but because he means something to us and we’d rather have him not kill himself out there anymore.

 

[Roshi]

bah. Ill accept if Oshie retires, he has earned the right to go out the way he wants.

But ill set a camp for those wanting Oshie to return. I dont care where he plays in the lineup and how many games he will miss. He is the Brooks Orpik of this team now. Overpaid sure but he is gold for the team, both for the old core and the next one. He just plays the game the right way and has that sort of aura that people want to go to a war with him.

We are better with Oshie.

And we have a lot of guys in Hershey ready to get their chances. Dube, Frank, Miro etc. Oshie isnt really blocking any of those guys as we all know he will have enough maintenance days for them all to get their shot.

 

[hockeykicker]

 

[Kalopsia]

I read it as he won't play if he doesn't "find a solution", not as "I'm going to give it a try and see what happens". I doubt any permanent solution is forthcoming that his previous doctors simply haven't thought of.

Prediction, he'll be on LTIR all season.

The distinction is meaningless from a salary cap perspective. Whether he says he's done at the start of training camp or 8 games into the season, the Caps will have had to leave room for him as all the free agents sign and all the offseason trades are made, so it'll be impossible to use his cap hit to replace him with anything but the scrapings at the bottom of the barrel. Oshie either decides right now he's done and the Caps are able to use hit cap hit for other players, or he waits and the Caps have to leave him on the books as they make their moves this summer, just like they did with Backstrom last year.

I love Oshie, and it pains me that he might be done. I still love Backstrom. But Backstrom objectively screwed the Caps' salary cap situation last year by trying to make that miracle comeback, and if Oshie spends the summer hoping to find a miracle cure only to give up the ghost before training camp, he'll be screwing the Caps' situation the same way Backstrom did. I hope he's weighing that against the long odds that something drastically changes for him in the next two months.

 

[Calicaps]

The distinction is meaningless from a salary cap perspective. Whether he says he's done at the start of training camp or 8 games into the season, the Caps will have had to leave room for him as all the free agents sign and all the offseason trades are made, so it'll be impossible to use his cap hit to replace him with anything but the scrapings at the bottom of the barrel. Oshie either decides right now he's done and the Caps are able to use hit cap hit for other players, or he waits and the Caps have to leave him on the books as they make their moves this summer, just like they did with Backstrom last year.

They're leaving it open. But I would bet that if Oshie really doesn't hear hope from somewhere, he may make the call sooner. But these guys deserve the time they need to come to the decision on their own. And I respect this organization for giving them that time even when it might make things a bit tougher in terms of roster construction.

 

[Calicaps]

Mac trying so hard not to gloat about CapFriendly. LOL!

 

[Kalopsia]

They're leaving it open. But I would bet that if Oshie really doesn't hear hope from somewhere, he may make the call sooner. But these guys deserve the time they need to come to the decision on their own. And I respect this organization for giving them that time even when it might make things a bit tougher in terms of roster construction.

I get why he doesn't want to make the call yet. I get why the organization won't push him. I don't fault either of them, I'm just frustrated by the situation repeating itself. If he waits until training camp to give up the ghost - hell, even if he just waits until the middle of July after all the top UFAs have signed - the Caps will have essentially flushed 5.75M in cap room down the toilet this year after flushing 9.2M down the toilet last year.

 

[hockeykicker]

couple things from vogel interview with bmac:
1)plan is stick with lindgren and shepard (no mention of stevenson) for start, could look at a backup
2) team is at the stage now where they can afford to trade picks
3) have a couple of guys interested in for free agency and would be nice to make a trade or two more

 

[Todd Lazarchick]

So who is it going to be that gets traded to get the flexibility?

I’ll believe it when I see it lol

 

[hockeykicker]

I’ll believe it when I see it lol

Bmac has been very honest about what he plans to do and then does it. At least he has been

 

[Todd Lazarchick]

Bmac has been very honest about what he plans to do and then does it. At least he has been

I believe him in his want but if he does it won’t be needle moving or substantial.

 

[Holtbyisms]

Bmac has been very honest about what he plans to do and then does it. At least he has been

That's the rumor around here but he really hasn't held that up the last few seasons. We can't keep living off what he's done in the past. That said I'm cautiously optimistic about the PLD move, I like how bold of a leap he took to finally add the top six forward he's been looking for for the past few seasons.

 

[g00n]

I believe him in his want but if he does it won’t be needle moving or substantial.

Chances are always going to be in favor of any move being something you don't like, and doesn't win this team the Cup.

So not really Nostradamus there, bud.

 

[Todd Lazarchick]

Chances are always going to be in favor of any move being something you don't like, and doesn't win this team the Cup.

So not really Nostradamus there, bud.

Well when he keeps proving me right lol

 

[zappa4ever]

2 moves already and we're not even up to Draft day or FA

Let's see what else GMBM's got cooking

 

[Todd Lazarchick]

2 moves already and we're not even up to Draft day or FA

Let's see what else GMBM's got cooking

This definitely isn’t “cooking” lol

 

[zappa4ever]

This definitely isn’t “cooking” lol

I've seen your posts recently.
I doubt I'll see anything of substance from you.