Speculation: Caps Roster General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines/etc) | 2023-24 Regular Season Edition

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He wasn’t here ago a decade ago Try again.

Let’s do this exercise — you want him fired. OK.

WHO? would you hire as a replacement?

And please don’t give me the “well, it’s not my job to know who is out there to lead the team”. That’s horsesehit. You are making it your job to fire him, aren’t you?

So finish the damned thought. Who replaces him?

I will wait


Same exercise for you. Who replaces him?

Very weird question, it’s not like they can interview candidates.

 

[Misery74]

Yep, 6 good ones. That's not very many. I'll bet a couple of those don't make it to FA either.

There are a bunch more;
Stamkos
Duchene
Tanev
Bertuzzi
Zucker

I agree, some of the ones listed will resign.

How does Florida resign Reinhart? Bob, Barkov, Tkachuk, it might be tight.

Duchene bet on himself. Could be a good target.

 

[PlushMinus]

Very weird question, it’s not like they can interview candidates.

I mean it's not that weird a question.

He is basically saying: if you think Bmac stinks, then what other GM do you think would do a better job?

 

[HTFN]

I mean it's not that weird a question.

He is basically saying: if you think Bmac stinks, then what other GM do you think would do a better job?

Yup. It's not enough to say "someone should have done better". Show us who is doing better and who deserved the shot, let's analyze that body of work and see how we feel about it.

Every team's board can make a pro and con list for their GM and find they aren't perfect because no GM is, but there aren't a lot of them would refuse to switch with us.... There isn't a GM in the league with even close to a 100% hit rate, I don't get the hate on GMBM for not nailing everything with applied hindsight when he seems to make good moves and vision shifts more often than not.

 

[Pigskin]

I say this to my children all the time when they complain about food. Don't tell me what you don't want to eat, tell me what you do want!

 

[alphabetical]

There are a bunch more;
Stamkos
Duchene
Tanev
Bertuzzi
Zucker

I agree, some of the ones listed will resign.

How does Florida resign Reinhart? Bob, Barkov, Tkachuk, it might be tight.

Duchene bet on himself. Could be a good target.

There really aren't a lot of centers or RHD on your lists, and those are the two positions of greatest need for the caps. It's great there there are a bunch of ageing wingers, but that's not exactly a glaring need for the caps. Sure, duchene would be an OK signing for the next 2 years, but he's going to want more term than that.

I'm sorry, I just don't see this list making the caps a contender again, or whatever point it is you're trying to make.

 

[Misery74]

There really aren't a lot of centers or RHD on your lists, and those are the two positions of greatest need for the caps. It's great there there are a bunch of ageing wingers, but that's not exactly a glaring need for the caps. Sure, duchene would be an OK signing for the next 2 years, but he's going to want more term than that.

I'm sorry, I just don't see this list making the caps a contender again, or whatever point it is you're trying to make.

No, I agree, these players don’t make us contenders. You had stated that there aren’t really any free agents. In actuality, it looks like a good crop of UFAs.

People on this board wanted Lindholm. We might be able to get him this offseason. We just might have a lot of money to spend.

 

[Ovie's Neighbor]

He wasn’t here ago a decade ago Try again.

Let’s do this exercise — you want him fired. OK.

WHO? would you hire as a replacement?

And please don’t give me the “well, it’s not my job to know who is out there to lead the team”. That’s horsesehit. You are making it your job to fire him, aren’t you?

So finish the damned thought. Who replaces him?

I will wait


Same exercise for you. Who replaces him?

First off why are you so angry? Second, he was hired as GM in 2014. It is now 2024. 2024-2014 = 10 years, which is a decade. At least be right if you are going to come off like that.

Who would I like them to hire? Someone who embraces analytics. One person that comes to mind is Eric Tulsky in Carolina. I like what the Hurricanes have done and I could see him wanting to be a GM on another team as opposed to staying in an assistant role with the Canes.

 

[hb13xchamps]

No, I agree, these players don’t make us contenders. You had stated that there aren’t really any free agents. In actuality, it looks like a good crop of UFAs.

People on this board wanted Lindholm. We might be able to get him this offseason. We just might have a lot of money to spend.

The UFA class in two years has some nice high end guys. The Caps would also have a ton of cap space then.

Marner
Rantanen
Draisaitl
Saros
Shesterkin

Ullmark
Chychrun
Ehlers
Boeser
Ekblad
Provorov
Buchnevich

Potential older, but still impactful players:
Hedman
Benn
Orlov
Marchand
Hall

A lot of these guys will get resigned by their current teams which will thin out the list. There’s only a few I’d throw money at. Looking at these lists makes a true tank and rebuild even more important. They are going to need a lot of young, high end players and drafting mid to late first round is a crap shoot

 

[Ridley Simon]

Very weird question, it’s not like they can interview candidates.

So that’s the excuse? We can fire him for performance, but we have no idea who may be available to replace him?

I see. Sounds like a good plan.

 

[Ridley Simon]

First off why are you so angry? Second, he was hired as GM in 2014. It is now 2024. 2024-2014 = 10 years, which is a decade. At least be right if you are going to come off like that.

Who would I like them to hire? Someone who embraces analytics. One person that comes to mind is Eric Tulsky in Carolina. I like what the Hurricanes have done and I could see him wanting to be a GM on another team as opposed to staying in an assistant role with the Canes.

This is his 10th season. He was hired in the summer of 14. 10yrs ago today, McPhee was the GM. Let’s be factual.

I am angry at people that want to fire GMBM. It’s a short sighted, immature, knee jerk reaction.

If you want to jettison someone, you need to have a plan for replacement. I don’t see how that’s a challenge? New blood just for the sake of it generally doesn’t work out. How many cup winning GM’s are out there right now? And we have one of them?

I’m glad you have at least a name. Most don’t. It’s so typical in today’s society to want to rail against something — complain complain complain — and have no solution.

 

[toolboyy]

We're still at 12 on Tankathon. That's a little too high for my taste. Got another chance for a Great Failure (Ovi goal+loss) today. You can do it, boys!

 

[Roshi]

Why do you think we're trying to win?



Is this a deep top 10 draft? If not then trade back and stock up on picks, imo.

I dont think its a deep draft and not really an exciting one as last years, but theres actually couple interesting names just around the 10ish what we likely will have.

Eiserman is a dropper and id be excited if we ended up with him (saw at #9 in some lists). Pure sniper and was thought to challenge Celebrini for 1st overall less than a year ago. Cristalls linemate Iginla on other hand is a riser and would fit in with ”tough to play against” format with Lenny. And for D option Buium is an interesting name after the WJC.

I wouldnt trade it back. We need quality over quantity, and we have some quantity incoming anyways with the sell outs last and this year. Already have 3x 2nd for next year.

 

[Misery74]

The UFA class in two years has some nice high end guys. The Caps would also have a ton of cap space then.

Marner
Rantanen
Draisaitl
Saros
Shesterkin

Ullmark
Chychrun
Ehlers
Boeser
Ekblad
Provorov
Buchnevich

Potential older, but still impactful players:
Hedman
Benn
Orlov
Marchand
Hall

A lot of these guys will get resigned by their current teams which will thin out the list. There’s only a few I’d throw money at. Looking at these lists makes a true tank and rebuild even more important. They are going to need a lot of young, high end players and drafting mid to late first round is a crap shoot

That is a really good crop. Hard to see how Marner or Draisaitl can actually be resigned.

With MacKinnon new contract, Rantanen seems like he would be hard to keep as well.

Shed salary, this year and next.

 

[twabby]

More and more people are saying it!

 

[Ovie's Neighbor]

More and more people are saying it!

Not my neighbor

 

[Roshi]

Overpayment or not, i wouldnt sell Dowd any less than for a 1st.

Reasoning is that you are as likely to get a 2nd or less for him at next TDL, as you are for now.

 

[hb13xchamps]

That is a really good crop. Hard to see how Marner or Draisaitl can actually be resigned.

With MacKinnon new contract, Rantanen seems like he would be hard to keep as well.

Shed salary, this year and next.

Off the top of my head they’ll have Mantha, Backstrom, Oshie and Kuznetsov as the big contracts off the books by then. That’s a lot of money they’d be able to spend.

Without looking it up, I believe only Kuemper, Strome, Wilson and Protas are signed longer than the next three years.

 

[Misery74]

Off the top of my head they’ll have Mantha, Backstrom, Oshie and Kuznetsov as the big contracts off the books by then. That’s a lot of money they’d be able to spend.

Without looking it up, I believe only Kuemper, Strome, Wilson and Protas are signed longer than the next three years.

Carlson too?

 

[toolboyy]

Carlson too?

 

[trick9]

If we can get a 1st round pick somewhere. Whether it's for Dowd, Lindgren or combination of assets, i think we would be heavily interested in Casey Mittelstadt if he is shopped. Which is likely given Sabres contract situation and prospect pool.

 

[Langway]

Middlestadt. Perfect.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

NHL Rumor Mill – February 10, 2024 | Spectors Hockey

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Peters’ source didn’t know what Adams’ asking price would be for Mittelstadt but indicated that he’s looking for a goaltender. “They don’t trust the three that they have,” said Peters.

 

[hockeykicker]

This morning I talked to Caps GM Brian MacLellan about the state of his team. He said, ‘I’m in a tough position. We’re trying to balance doing right by some of our legacy players–not just Ovi, it’s Oshie and Carlson too–while trying to get younger and stay competitive.’

On the losing streak, he said, ‘right now we’re in it.’ And he said, ‘These next three games: today, tomorrow against Vancouver, and then against Colorado, will determine what direction we go to in the trade deadline.’

And he said, ‘You know, it’s going to be difficult decisions that we need to make. However, whatever we do in the second half, if we do trade away players, you can expect a lot of players from Hershey to come up.’

MacLellan made the comments to ESPN’s Emily Kaplan who reported the following during the third period of Caps-Bruins:

 

[mouser]

Not to be a negative Nancy, but man, the only guy this might help is Ted in not having to pay him.

I think giving away the money will be harder if the window is closed.

I don’t think this saves Ted any money, he will still have to pay Kuznetsov.

The benefit would be the potential ability to take on cap dumps at the deadline for assets with the added space.

Kuznetsov is being reported in the media and on cap websites like CapFriendly as having a $0 cap hit, and not listed on LTIR.

If this info is accurate that implies Kuznetsov has been suspended without pay, other than a cost of living stipend. The Player Assistance Program calls for suspension without pay if a player is placed into stage 2 or higher of the assistance program’s four stages.