Speculation: Caps Roster General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines etc) - 2022-23 Season Part 3: Drop the puck!
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Vachon23
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I'm not interested in any of those guys really.
Dadonov has had a rough start and is on the IR, Hoffman has been terrible, and Drouin is about due for his yearly IR stint.
We've given up enough assets for players who won't play for us already this year.
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Totally agree. The cost would presumably be minimal, more of a salary dump for MTL, but cap space is precious. Hoffman also has another year @ $4.5M so huge no there for a one-dimensional declining talent. Any of them would be the epitome of panic buying. Better to wait and see. Wait and see what Milano can bring. Wait and see what else materializes league-wide in the coming months as teams jockey to tank.
If anything in a winger they need someone more along the lines of Sheary that can bring energy and skating. But I'm hesitant to believe there are any realistic personnel moves that put things into place. The center position is definingly mediocre at best so I don't know whether adding vet winger filler moves the needle much at all. It can help and maybe it's all that's needed to qualify but it should be a very selective process. More selective than that trio.
If anything in a winger they need someone more along the lines of Sheary that can bring energy and skating. But I'm hesitant to believe there are any realistic personnel moves that put things into place. The center position is definingly mediocre at best so I don't know whether adding vet winger filler moves the needle much at all. It can help and maybe it's all that's needed to qualify but it should be a very selective process. More selective than that trio.
I like Drouin as a buy-low option. He’s still an unreal talent and I think getting out of Montreal and joining a team like the Caps where he can develop his game without the bright spotlight could maybe help him salvage his career.
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Habs dont really have anyone who moves the needle id stay a million miles away from whatever snake oil they’re selling especially if they want anything worthwhile
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Lmao. they already have their best prospects in. Albeit some are sitting in the stands. We have two players with sizable salaries out at least until the playoffs. Is someone in management being really frugal or am i missing something here? Without solid goaltending we would be bottom of the league right now. With things as tight as they are right now all it takes is a bad month and playoffs are no longer feasible. Need help asap and unfortunately internally they just have warm bodies lined up. Shameful to write off the season 10 games in but unless a trade is made im afraid this season is going nowhere
I think they’re actually playing well from a structure and systems perspective but they just don’t have the talent and finishing to score enough. Kuznetsov, Strome, and Mantha should be the key point drivers at ES and they’re no where near where they should be. Ovi is going to get his. Sheary wasn’t going to keep shooting at 40%. McMichael for whatever reason isn’t playing even though he’s one of their best playmakers at ES.
Unless their top six starts to play better and score or they make a trade this is who they are. Goaltending has been more than good enough and they’re a good defensive team. Without the high end scoring talent though every game will be challenging and a coin flip unless they play a leaky goalie.
Unless their top six starts to play better and score or they make a trade this is who they are. Goaltending has been more than good enough and they’re a good defensive team. Without the high end scoring talent though every game will be challenging and a coin flip unless they play a leaky goalie.
Goalies are finally good. Pick up any offensively gifted forwards regardless of their defensive abilities that are cheap to acquire. Run and gun time. Might as well make losing entertaining. Get Ovechkin his goals and let the team learn how to score 5 on 5 again.
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How many fans here watched the Caps before Ovie? So many 1-1 2-2 Ties in the Bondra Olie era.
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Pretty much my take
the last 5/6 gms (since NJD) they've been skating/competing, no complaints from the effort, except maybe the classic 'Kuzy cares' issue
If Kuzy/Strome/Mantha/MoJo and a cpl young bucks get some scoring here and there maybe we can survive maybe even thrive a bit until Wilson gets back, that's a big if though and still leaves us down a Top-6 fwd
Tough sched coming/continuing, still have 8 left in the 13-in-24 days, stringing a few wins in a row would sure come in handy right about now w/4gm home stand starting tmrw
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That's a bit of a cop-out. It's not easy. Too bad. Work harder, right? Isn't that always the solution for them? Don't overpass, get bodies to the net and keep it simple. It takes focus but they already curtail so much away from the puck defensively. It's high time they did similar when they have it. Or else they're not going to make it. Structure and discipline here also must rule the day. This is a great opportunity for them to incorporate better fundamental habits offensively. If they don't, yeah, on paper it's unlikely to cut it. The whole must be greater than the sum of the parts and here too is where not having players that make those around them better is a very costly weakness. It makes the task of unifying cohesion that much more difficult. So many of their players are limited in some facet, if not several. Typically it would be Kuznetsov leading the way in that regard but they need more from him and more of that capacity elsewhere.
It doesn't really matter how skilled they are. Realistically they'll be outgunned against most teams from a fluidity standpoint. What they don't possess regardless of injuries is a coherent offensive identity. Having some skill isn't an identity, it takes makes it easier to gloss over and get away with. Being a bit thinner just underlines that their approach is at best a flimsy hodge-podge much of the time. Again, getting Carlson back will put them on more favorable ground offensively. But these injuries could be a blessing in disguise if they wake up and take ownership of some of their limited tendencies that are pretty fixable. While they've gone some good things with their defensive structure implementing similar discipline offensively seems like a crucial final step regardless. Without that they're probably pretty well sunk.
I’m not saying it’s a cop out — quite the opposite, actually. They’ve built a team that wants to play coin flip hockey and now that some of their top end talent is regressing they don’t have the guns to keep up. The lineup selections suggest they’re much more interested in being harder to play against than they are in dictating the run of play. I think there’s a lot of similarities structure wise between Lavi and Trotz, and I think they might actually be better structured than under Trotz, but Trotz had an embarrassment of riches from a talent and scoring perspective so they had the talent to dictate pace and fill the net.
They lack pace and finishing at the moment which are pretty hard to course correct barring extensive roster turnover which we might see next summer. I like Lavi as a coach but he doesn’t exactly have a reputation for unlocking offense so that’s another decision they have to make.
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They're in makeshift mode minus Carlson. But, again, they don't really have an offensive identity either way. It mustmustmust include a greater degree of getting greasy and going into traffic areas. The PP won't carry them. We know that. Unless their 5v5 mentality is more urgently simplified and determined they're not going to make it. Given that this is not a recent issue whatsoever come playoff time there are plenty of warning signs going off to be sure.
They can certainly try to trade their way into something more favorable but ultimately it's hard to pin their fortunes on that. They still need to better control what they can control and for whatever reason that level of buy-in has been a struggle. There's a pivot they need to make mentally that keenly gets that they're not quite in their primes. It's poise and discipline that has to compensate. But too often they do seem to want to get into those track meets and to just loosely operate as though they're still a team that they aren't.
They can certainly try to trade their way into something more favorable but ultimately it's hard to pin their fortunes on that. They still need to better control what they can control and for whatever reason that level of buy-in has been a struggle. There's a pivot they need to make mentally that keenly gets that they're not quite in their primes. It's poise and discipline that has to compensate. But too often they do seem to want to get into those track meets and to just loosely operate as though they're still a team that they aren't.
My biggest problem with this current roster, even when healthy, is that we really do not have many play and possession drivers. Who are our guys that can consistently skate the puck into the offensive zone on zone entries with possession, leading to offensive zone time? Kuzy, Mantha, Orlov. That’s it. Even if he comes back, Backstrom is too slow and while Oshie is decent at it, he lacks optimal foot speed to consistently create separation. We severely lack top-end skill, puck possession, and speed. We are forced to play dump-and-chase and hope opponents make mistakes or we luckily recover the puck on cross corner dumps and hard arounds or sustain enough pressure on a forecheck to cause a forced turnover. This is not optimal - and certainly not a recipe for success whatsoever.
Second person I see mention Drouin.
Regardless of the personal and on-ice issues with the player, there is a 0% chance that Laviolette would play ever play him. He'd just be another 6min a night bench warmer.
Regardless of the personal and on-ice issues with the player, there is a 0% chance that Laviolette would play ever play him. He'd just be another 6min a night bench warmer.
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