Why just Hathaway? Lets give them Orlov too. Who here didn't enjoy watching Gonchar lift the cup with Pens?
Speculation: Caps Roster General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines etc) - 2022-23 Season Part 3: Drop the puck!
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I think the idea is to shed as much of what weighed us down this year as possible and replace them with pieces that won't have those issues. We can only really strive to be better than we were this year. A few key roster moves and better injury luck could do that. But yeah, we're a long way away from true contender status.
The pipe-dream you're selling is the dramatic overstatement of what people here realistically want. Literally no one is saying, "All we gotta do is move these 5 unmovable guys and replace them with every sexy free agent or trade target and we'll be as good as anyone." Everyone's got their opinion on who needs to go, so it's easy to combine all that chatter into thinking that everyone wants all of Backstrom, Carlson, Oshie, Mantha, and Kuznetsov gone ASAP. And it's the same with acquisitions -- a bunch get mentioned and discussed, but no one thinks we can get them all.
I think the general consensus here is that, yeah, we do need to part with at least a couple mainstays, and it's looking like at least one of our UFAs is driving too hard a bargain. So we'll have a lot of work to do this offseason. Luckily we have a GM that's good at pulling surprising and effective solutions out of his ass. What remains to be seen is how willing he and/or Ted are to part with beloved players that really need to go.
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This brings up a question: supposing most or all of the UFAs are traded to playoff teams which former-Capital would you root for most to win it all? Obviously the team will matter since I don’t think people want to see Pittsburgh or NYR win it all no matter if their favorite player is on the team. But if we hold the team neutral, which player would you root for most?
I think I’d root for Jensen the most. He’s worked his way up the hockey ranks but has had zero team success at the NHL level. It’d be fun to see his work and talent rewarded with a Cup. Mojo would be up there too. Same with Orlov, who I love as a player.
My first thought was anyone not on Pens or NYR lol but assuming both are out i would most definitely root for Jensen. I like Orlov more but Jensen was not here in 2018 so i would root for him more to get his first cup. I also heard somewhere that Jensens wife comes to every single game. I don't know why that matters or even if its true but still think its pretty cool
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Let me see ... There's at least one poster who chose the word "contender" to describe what should be the team's aspiration:
Not shedding core means more suck during Ovie's final years here.
I just wanna say that i'd like to keep Gus around for Ovis record. Even at like 3x5 or something it's worth it because after 25/26 who cares....
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Anyone that goes to West.
I wouldn’t mind Orlov going to Edmonton, winning the Cup and coming back in the summer.
I’m less interested in rooting for a specific player than I am interested in seeing teams like Toronto, Buffalo, and Edmonton break through. I may be in the minority but I hope the Leafs can go on a run. I think seeing Buffalo make it back to relevance would be cool.
To answer your specific question, MoJo is my answer and it’s not particularly close. He was under appreciated and a good player here and left right before the team won, then he lost in G7 with the Bruins. I’ll be rooting for him to raise the Cup if he’s traded regardless of the team he’s traded too.
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No surprise but Leaf’s need help for the blue line.
The Toronto Maple Leafs have announced that defenceman Jake Muzzin will be out for the remainder of the season including playoffs.
Only appearing in four games this season Muzzin will now spend his time recovering from a cervical spine injury.
The Toronto Maple Leafs have announced that defenceman Jake Muzzin will be out for the remainder of the season including playoffs.
Only appearing in four games this season Muzzin will now spend his time recovering from a cervical spine injury.
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Nobody is suggesting Ovechkin wants to play for a bottom feeder, which is where rebuilding teams usually head…
Some of you are arguing back like anyone here is against improving the lineup….and thats F’ing laughable!
How do we make them back into a playoff qualifier this off-season? That is the task at hand.
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Yeah, I know. It's fun to shit on the Leafs and watch them fail, I get it. I feel almost a kinship with them though.Definitely in the minority….
They haven't won a Cup since 1967 and they haven't won a playoff series since '04. An entire generation (and now generations) of Leafs fans know only heartbreak and futility in the postseason. Back when Washington played them in 2017 they were the young exciting team with a really bright future. They had hope and excitement and one of the best players in the world. Even though they lost that series the team and it's fans felt like they were on the rise and building something special. And they have been in the regular season but their playoff failures are now the stuff of legend and everything they do in the regular season seems a bit meaningless. They just can't get over the hump and even though they're really good, their divisional opponents are just a bit better.
It's almost like looking in the mirror to the Young Guns era.
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Why does everybody assume Ovechkin likes playing with these old, slow crappy players that currently have them close to last place?
Why wouldn’t he like playing with younger faster players he’s currently playing on the line with Dylan Strome and Conor Sheary both waiver cast off
Why wouldn’t he like playing with younger faster players he’s currently playing on the line with Dylan Strome and Conor Sheary both waiver cast off
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Hey. F you guys.
...but F these up and comer teams more.
Good luck with the playoff push - or fire sale. Whichever route you choose. 2023 has been disgusting hockey for us both.
...but F these up and comer teams more.
Good luck with the playoff push - or fire sale. Whichever route you choose. 2023 has been disgusting hockey for us both.
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No time table on if and when BMAC makes a move, but I'm leaning towards Monday after the Capitals have played a back to back against the Rangers and Sabres and before they depart for the west coast.
Hell yeah, F you too
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Could the Kings target Orlov? — The Fourth Period
As the Kings continue to wait on Jakob Chychrun, they could turn to Dmitry Orlov to address their left D.
www.thefourthperiod.com
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Frank Seravalli wrote an article about the Capitals.
Key notes:
- Deadline posture: Sellers
- Thinks Gavrikov trade return could be around the same as Savard, Orlov would return more
- Thinks Hathaway would be hot commodity, comparable return: Jarnkrok (2nd, 3rd + 7th)
- Eller's trade value comparison is Johan Larsson (3rd round pick), could be able to squeeze more
- Jensen's trade value comparison is Brett Kulak (Good prospect, 2nd + 7th), thinks it's a good direct comparable for many reasons
- TvR's trade value comparison is Justin Braun (3rd round pick). Says TvR is better than Braun so could be more than that but no better comparables
He thinks MacLellan has a big decision to make and internal injury report on Carlson may have big effect on that.
Source: If the Capitals decide to sell, what could they get in return at the deadline?
Key notes:
- Deadline posture: Sellers
- Thinks Gavrikov trade return could be around the same as Savard, Orlov would return more
- Thinks Hathaway would be hot commodity, comparable return: Jarnkrok (2nd, 3rd + 7th)
- Eller's trade value comparison is Johan Larsson (3rd round pick), could be able to squeeze more
- Jensen's trade value comparison is Brett Kulak (Good prospect, 2nd + 7th), thinks it's a good direct comparable for many reasons
- TvR's trade value comparison is Justin Braun (3rd round pick). Says TvR is better than Braun so could be more than that but no better comparables
He thinks MacLellan has a big decision to make and internal injury report on Carlson may have big effect on that.
Source: If the Capitals decide to sell, what could they get in return at the deadline?
Im one of the last to give up on a season, and im not completely ready to do so here either, but i gotta admit im getting on with the ’sell agressive’ wagon.
Its not even that much about giving up on the playoffs chance, but mainly because lot of the UFA guys are not contributing to that chance much anyways. Eller, Hathaway, Sheary, Johansson - lose couple of them and cant see us much worse with Snively or Protas. Orlov and Jensen are obviously the tough ones, but if the talks about contract negotiations going the wrong way are true, this isnt the season to hold back trading them either. Return would be good base to start finding someone to replace them for next season - where the focus should start shifting more and more with every L.
Obviously it comes with the understanding of only making trades that makes sense. You dont trade guys out for ”just give me anything” as long as you have even a 10% chance making the playoffs. If someone gives you 1st+ + for Orlov id say you take it, but you dont trade him for any discount offer. And thats what im reading from the ”BM is listening” reports.
We are not as bad as we are now though. Many appearantly already forgot, but Its just two months since december happened. This team can still win when they get hot and im not giving up on the big picture. Its just that TDL comes in too quick and you need to take a look at some calculated decisions.
Its not even that much about giving up on the playoffs chance, but mainly because lot of the UFA guys are not contributing to that chance much anyways. Eller, Hathaway, Sheary, Johansson - lose couple of them and cant see us much worse with Snively or Protas. Orlov and Jensen are obviously the tough ones, but if the talks about contract negotiations going the wrong way are true, this isnt the season to hold back trading them either. Return would be good base to start finding someone to replace them for next season - where the focus should start shifting more and more with every L.
Obviously it comes with the understanding of only making trades that makes sense. You dont trade guys out for ”just give me anything” as long as you have even a 10% chance making the playoffs. If someone gives you 1st+ + for Orlov id say you take it, but you dont trade him for any discount offer. And thats what im reading from the ”BM is listening” reports.
We are not as bad as we are now though. Many appearantly already forgot, but Its just two months since december happened. This team can still win when they get hot and im not giving up on the big picture. Its just that TDL comes in too quick and you need to take a look at some calculated decisions.
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