Speculation: Caps General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines etc) - 2020 Offseason Pt. 1

[g00n]

Wait. Ryan Miller is still in the league? Wow

He's listed as a UFA. Started 19 games for ANA 2019-20. His save% was .907. So small sample size, sure, but still better than Holtby's .897.

Could be a cheap option.

 

[tenken00]

I'd be very interested to see the price tag on this guy. Has a real chance of becoming #1 in DC or at least giving Samsonov a run for his money. I don't see Vanecek doing that. Would be even more interested in Merzlikin but they won't pursue him. The demand for him is going to be through the roof.

Unlike Lundvquist who would most likely be a buyout candidate, I dont see any reason the Rangers would trade Georgiev to us. None at all. They are going to be competing for a Metro playoff spot this year.

Edit: oh wait hes a RFA now.

 

[Melkor]

Unlike Lundvquist who would most likely be a buyout candidate, I dont see any reason the Rangers would trade Georgiev to us. None at all. They are going to be competing for a Metro playoff spot this year.

Edit: oh wait hes a RFA now.

Barring some terrible injury, I believe Shesterkin is the man in Big apple and I don't see Georgiev being okay with the sidekick role. He's far from being a junior at this point so I can see him respectfully asking him for a change of scenery if his role doesn't change. I mean they didnt even let him play a single game in the bubble choosing Hank instead. I think with the way Hank played those games that was disrespectful to Alex.

 

[tenken00]

Barring some terrible injury, I believe Shesterkin is the man in Big apple and I don't see Georgiev being okay with the sidekick role. He's far from being a junior at this point so I can see him respectfully asking him for a change of scenery if his role doesn't change. I mean they didnt even let him play a single game in the bubble choosing Hank instead. I think with the way Hank played those games that was disrespectful to Alex.

I was thinking that there was no ways the Rangers would trade Georgiev to us, but then found out that he is a RFA now.

And now with LeBrun saying a few days ago that there might be some shocking RFAs that won't even be given a QO offer this year because of the financial situations that they are in... I wonder if the NYR might do the same with Georgiev and maybe he will be a UFA.

Edit: Isn't Shesterkin in the same boat as Samsonov? Both injured in vehicle accidents and didn't make it to the bubble if I remember correctly.

Edit edit: no wait. The car accident was earlier in the year. He didnt play the first few games in the bubble because of a groin injury.

 

[Langway]

Hear me out...how insane would it be to sign Ryan Miller (UFA, 1.12M in 2020) to a dirt cheap 1yr deal to back up Sammy? Is he toast, or can he hold up for one more year?

I thought he was a West Coast only guy for family reasons. He's also 40 so pretty much just a back-up and they need a bit more workload potential IMO.

The other thing about Dillon is the penalties. It would be understandable if he was a matching minor roughing type but the obstruction won't age well. They're interested for the intangibles but likely only at a discount (3x$3-3.5M) I'd wager. Not sure there's an alternative in free agency aside from kicking the tires on Greene or Chara on short-term deals (assuming Edmundson signs in MTL and even he might price himself out). Retaining Kempny and going Barrie/TVR/Ceci/Braun/Bogosian/Vatanen doesn't seem much better. I don't know how they navigate several issues given cap constraints absent the market cratering and settling in their favor. Even if that happens in free agency I'm not sure there's enough depth for that to be all that pivotal. You figure the likes of Brodie, Tanev and Hamonic are still going to get paid. Buyouts could add more depth but teams would rather trade and retain salary if possible. They're in a tough spot to significantly upgrade the defense with limited cap space and a weak asset base. They probably can't afford to go with Vanecek and spend on D instead.

Georgiev will get a QO but DeAngelo or Strome might not.

 

[Kalopsia]

I still think Cernak is the best bang-for-your-buck addition they can make. A 5 year x $4M offer sheet would only cost the Caps their 2021 2nd rounder. He'd almost certainly be cheaper than the guys like Brodie, Tanev, and Hamonic, and the asset cost is lower than if they traded for a guy like Dumba. Worst case, Tampa matches and it makes it even harder for them to retain Cirelli and Sergachev. Best case, he and Orlov makes for a really strong shutdown pairing.

 

[Langway]

I like the idea but Cernak would have to sign the offer. They also may be forced to move him beforehand depending on what else is movable. I wonder if Stamkos may not be among their moves if they can pull it off without him. More likely Johnson & Killorn are gone but that's a move that may help them maintain more flexibility and depth. At the very least they've got an expansion protection issue coming up with those top 4 D.

 

[Kalopsia]

I like the idea but Cernak would have to sign the offer. They also may be forced to move him beforehand depending on what else is movable. I wonder if Stamkos may not be among their moves if they can pull it off without him. More likely Johnson & Killorn are gone but that's a move that may help them maintain more flexibility and depth. At the very least they've got an expansion protection issue coming up with those top 4 D.

Getting to Cernak first could definitely be one of the hard parts. Trading for him could also make sense, assuming his value is being suppressed by possibility of an offer sheet forcing their hand. As for whether he signs an OS, it'd probably be a significant raise over what Tampa could offer, which is probably a cheap bridge deal. He'd have to be pretty loyal to turn down that much money, especially from another contender, but who knows.

Tampa's definitely in a rough situation made worse by their willingness to give out NT/MCs. Palat, Gourde, Johnson, McDonagh, and Coburn all have full no trade clauses. Stamkos has a NMC, so they can't trade him unless he's willing to go. I think they're guaranteed to lose at least one of Cirelli, Sergachev, and Cernak, and very likely two cause there's just nowhere else to cut.

 

[Ovechkins Wodka]

Have we ever traded with Tampa? Can’t think of any?

 

[g00n]

Have we ever traded with Tampa? Can’t think of any?

This is the most recent player trade. 20 years ago.

 

[Hivemind]

Have we ever traded with Tampa? Can’t think of any?

The last time was a pick-for-pick trade at the draft in 2001.
Last involving a roster player was Jaroslav Svejkovsky to Tampa for a 3rd and 7th.
Last involving a player name I actually recognized was Joe Reekie back in 1994.

So, yeah, not much.

 

[blindsideheadshot]

How could you forget Yogi!? Still the only Caps rookie to score 4 in a game, former first rounder at that.

 

[Corby78]

How could you forget Yogi!? Still the only Caps rookie to score 4 in a game, former first rounder at that.

I was real excited for Yogi, for a hot second. That kid dropped off the face of the earth real fast. I thought we were in great shape with him Bulis/Zednick/Zubris/Pettinger/Halpern as a young corp to replace the Bondra group.

Yeah...

 

[blindsideheadshot]

I was real excited for Yogi, for a hot second. That kid dropped off the face of the earth real fast. I thought we were in great shape with him Bulis/Zednick/Zubris/Pettinger/Halpern as a young corp to replace the Bondra group.

Yeah...

I thought so, too. Apparently ended up out of the league with bad post-concussion syndrome not long after the trade. That was a weird time as a Caps fan, so many of those prospects seemed like they could be something and flashed big time, then washed out of the league as a whole.

 

[Ridley Simon]

Getting to Cernak first could definitely be one of the hard parts. Trading for him could also make sense, assuming his value is being suppressed by possibility of an offer sheet forcing their hand. As for whether he signs an OS, it'd probably be a significant raise over what Tampa could offer, which is probably a cheap bridge deal. He'd have to be pretty loyal to turn down that much money, especially from another contender, but who knows.

Tampa's definitely in a rough situation made worse by their willingness to give out NT/MCs. Palat, Gourde, Johnson, McDonagh, and Coburn all have full no trade clauses. Stamkos has a NMC, so they can't trade him unless he's willing to go. I think they're guaranteed to lose at least one of Cirelli, Sergachev, and Cernak, and very likely two cause there's just nowhere else to cut.

they need to win it all this year. Or suffer the fate of the 2017 Washington Capitals. We all remember how crappy they were in 2018 after tearing the team apart. We really blew it in 2017.....alas

 

[Langway]

I thought so, too. Apparently ended up out of the league with bad post-concussion syndrome not long after the trade. That was a weird time as a Caps fan, so many of those prospects seemed like they could be something and flashed big time, then washed out of the league as a whole.

Btw, his son Lukas is draft-eligible this year and could be a late round pick. </old>

 

[TheLegendOfPatPeake]

Btw, his son Lukas is draft-eligible this year and could be a late round pick. </old>

All we need is Bulis and Zednik to have draft eligible kids and we can reunite the old kids line.

 

[Ridley Simon]

Zed was the “mini” Bondra. Save all the goal scoring.

 

[pman25]

You always hear talk of offer sheets every offseason, and I always believe it only to be duped every single year. But man seems to make sense for Tampa’s situation? For any one of Sergachev/Cirelli/Cernak. Tampa is kinda screwed, they can only realistically move Killorn and won’t have much time to work out trades or sign guys with such a short period after they’re out of the bubble.

 

[um]

You always hear talk of offer sheets every offseason, and I always believe it only to be duped every single year. But man seems to make sense for Tampa’s situation? For any one of Sergachev/Cirelli/Cernak. Tampa is kinda screwed, they can only realistically move Killorn and won’t have much time to work out trades or sign guys with such a short period after they’re out of the bubble.

The problem with an offer sheet is they usually occur later in the off season and they're rarely successful.

By the time the Caps hypothetical offer sheet would be signed, most of the UFAs will be gone and all the trades will have been made. So if Tampa matches, we're f***ed.

 

[twabby]

I'd take a look at Galchenyuk as a reclamation project if he doesn't get a lot of attention elsewhere. Seems like he could be a decent buy low option.

 

[um]

I'd take a look at Galchenyuk as a reclamation project if he doesn't get a lot of attention elsewhere. Seems like he could be a decent buy low option.

I'd be interested if he's cheap, which would allow us to spend on Defense. He should be a better option than Sprong on the third line.

Galchenyuk-Eller-Panik
Hagelin-Dowd-Hathaway

 

[marcel snapshot]

Zed was the “mini” Bondra. Save all the goal scoring.

Zed scored some big goals in the 98 finals run. Then when he got dealt to Montreal, scored 8 points in 4 playoff games vs the Bruins in 02, so Kyle McLaren went medieval and literally took his head off and scrambled his brains. And that wasn’t even his worst injury - then he got his throat cut by a skate while with the Panthers. Whatever might be said about him, the guy had heart. Hope he’s OK today and doesn’t have any lingering effects from the damage he endured

 

[txpd]

I will put money down right now that Laviolette isnt going to use Hagelin on the 4th line. He was 8th among forwards in toi/g. 8th in evtoi/g. He was 2nd overall and 1st among forwards in shtoi/g. He was 8th in scoring among forwards after missing 10 games.

 

[Hivemind]

I will put money down right now that Laviolette isnt going to use Hagelin on the 4th line. He was 8th among forwards in toi/g. 8th in evtoi/g. He was 2nd overall and 1st among forwards in shtoi/g. He was 8th in scoring among forwards after missing 10 games.

How much money you wanna risk?