Speculation: Caps General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines etc) -- 2018-19 We Are The Champions Edition - Pt. 4

[Sam Spade]

There are some on here that are "just fine" (dare I say.....happy??) with the 20 games. So, maybe my post wasnt directed at Mr Sam Spade?

f*** that!! Wilson is soooo important to the Caps, I rank them Ovechkin, Kuznetsov, Backstrom, Wilson.

Willy hit Kunitz, leads to turnover to Kuzy, pass to Ovechkin, GOAL, in game seven. Huge.

Wilson single-handedly removed a 40 goal scorer from the Final by hitting him over and over and over again.

Without Wilson, no Cup, believe that.

I am just pissed that he did such a dumb thing in a pre-season game. It will be game 25-30 before Wilson is "back in the groove" of the team and I am definitely mad about that.

 

[RandyHolt]

Any hits that Tom tries, may be more awkward than some of the NFL "hits" on QBs yesterday... to non NFL fans, our precious quarterbacks are basically off limits to being hit, in a variety of ways. Can't touch the head, cannot hit below the knee, cannot use your full body weight to tackle... special rules, for certain players.

 

[maacoshark]

The thing I fear with Tom, is players can now easy troll tom by just looking downward on approach, say at the puck. Have their head in position to stop him dead in his tracks. Tom will have to pull up. He just cannot risk hitting an opponent in the head right now. Maybe he can safely hit the Chara's of the league, that's about it.

He is not far away from losing his entire 5M salary. 1 or 2 questionable hits is all that it will take. I am not sure I can ever recall a player more neutered... maybe Cooke or Torres I suppose.

That Aston hit really set a bad precedent. A player properly prepared/squaring up to hit Tom, still equals a suspension for Tom. I knew Tom was in a tough spot after that one. The former players etc coming to his defense, sadly rang hollow with the powers that be.

Ya I didnt like the suspension on the Ashton Reese hit. It was the furthest thing from a blindside hit as you can get. Ashton Reese's took Wilson on head on and lost.

 

[Jacoby4HOF66]

 

[RandyHolt]

Ya I didnt like the suspension on the Ashton Reese hit. It was the furthest thing from a blindside hit as you can get. Ashton Reese's took Wilson on head on and lost.

Yep. As Tom's legal counsel I would certainly address that in the appeal hearing. Its not just a suspension, its the repeated suspensions that are the problem today. And my defense would include quotes from all the respected players former or current, that defended him after that Aston hit. See if we can convince Bentsie to remove that one from the ledger with respect to its use in determining 20 games / repeat offender status.

You know what else I would do, is make my own dopey video and use it as a part of his defense. Noting in particular, the careless or reckless nature of the opposition. Aston should have bailed out. Why did he think he could stand up to Tom?? At some point ALL players have to be held accountable for their actions. I would also show all the other things that go unpunished, and ask why that it is.

 

[Ridley Simon]

welp......interesting?

I have to say....when I first saw the still on that video, it looked like the guy was grabbing something else.....other than his t-shirt.

So....yeah. I will just leave that there

 

[Sam Spade]

Pretty clever marketing here:

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Yep. As Tom's legal counsel I would certainly address that in the appeal hearing. Its not just a suspension, its the repeated suspensions that are the problem today. And my defense would include quotes from all the respected players former or current, that defended him after that Aston hit. See if we can convince Bentsie to remove that one from the ledger with respect to its use in determining 20 games / repeat offender status.

You know what else I would do, is make my own dopey video and use it as a part of his defense. Noting in particular, the careless or reckless nature of the opposition. Aston should have bailed out. Why did he think he could stand up to Tom?? At some point ALL players have to be held accountable for their actions. I would also show all the other things that go unpunished, and ask why that it is.

Weather man and legal eagle.....you truly are the most interesting person on HF!

 

[RandyHolt]

Weather man and legal eagle.....you truly are the most interesting person on HF!

Thanks. But you forgot this one.... yes, I am an internet doctor. Oh and I am the co-founder of the hair club for men.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

I knew there was a medical thingy too....couldnt remember for sure!

 

[g00n]

Tx is the official board Doc, RH. Sorry, m8

 

[Foots]

**** that!! Wilson is soooo important to the Caps, I rank them Ovechkin, Kuznetsov, Backstrom, Wilson.

Willy hit Kunitz, leads to turnover to Kuzy, pass to Ovechkin, GOAL, in game seven. Huge.

Wilson single-handedly removed a 40 goal scorer from the Final by hitting him over and over and over again.

Without Wilson, no Cup, believe that.

I am just pissed that he did such a dumb thing in a pre-season game. It will be game 25-30 before Wilson is "back in the groove" of the team and I am definitely mad about that.

True. Karlsson in game 5 looked dazed. Was he even on the ice in the final minutes?

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Tx is the official board Doc, RH. Sorry, m8

We need a nurse! Focker!

 

[RandyHolt]

I would think I am also the resident goon, but g00n is our actual goon. Part of being a good goon is acting innocent after committing our crimes.

My Resume



Ironic, Vaive showed how easy it is to defend oneself. Bail out, or fall backwards. No worse for wear at all, and got right back up. A modern day Vaive would have been taken off on a stretcher after taking that on the chin, and Holt would be suspended indefinitely #FreeWilly

Holt on Vaive a week later... love the huge RH twig on my goon dmen. It aids in the buffoonernistic endeavors. You may skate like the wind, but he IS going to get a piece of you.

 

[VaCaps Fan]

Randy Holt is our Randy Holt!

 

[RandyHolt]

Randy Holt is our Randy Holt!

If you need an autograph let me know

The MAC fight links work - Nystrom is the best.

 

[Silky mitts]

In 41 games since winning in SJ including playoffs, the Caps are 13-3-1 regular season, 16-8 with 2 OT losses so 29-9-3 with regular season scoring, and
Ovechkin 41 gp, 26 g 19 a 45 p
Kuzy 38 gp, 21 g 33 a 54 p
Backstrom 37 gp, 10 g 39 a 49 p
Carlson 41 gp, 10 g 29 a 39 p
Oshie 39 gp, 17 g 20 a 37 p

 

[maacoshark]

Changing topics, anyone else tired of hearing about how we didn’t mention Trotz on opening night. First it’s annoying because we didn’t mention beagle or grubs as far as I can remeber either, and second it’s annoying because it’s usually coming from people who know nothing of hockey or the caps. Most of these people feel Trotz is the reason we won. Just frustrating to me

I think Trotz is the reason we won. He turned a run and gun team into a defensively responsible team.
So far this year its looks like we are back to the run and gun style. I doubt this team will be as successful this year as it was under Trotz.
I predict that we dont crack 100 points this year and are a borderline playoff team. I have ca feeling the Islanders will be a better defensive team than us this year.
I dont understand the Trotz hatred here and the big push for change even though the team was winning.

 

[Langway]

I think Trotz is the reason we won. He turned a run and gun team into a defensively responsible team.
So far this year its looks like we are back to the run and gun style. I doubt this team will be as successful this year as it was under Trotz.
I predict that we dont crack 100 points this year and are a borderline playoff team. I have ca feeling the Islanders will be a better defensive team than us this year.
I dont understand the Trotz hatred here and the big push for change even though the team was winning.

Are...are you the same guy?

You are already bashing Bowey. Its only been 2 games.

I know there's this huge break but, uh, take a breath.

 

[maacoshark]

Are...are you the same guy?

I know there's this huge break but, uh, take a breath.

That doesnt answer why there was so much hatred for Trotz and why everyone here wanted him fired even though we were winning. Dont avoid the question.

 

[Langway]

Nowhere in your post is an actual question so, uh, nope. Nope. Not even going to try to prove you wrong.

 

[maacoshark]

Nowhere in your post is an actual question so, uh, nope. Nope. Not even going to try to prove you wrong.

OK why all the hatred for Trotz? And why did all of you guys want to run him out of town? Why do you guys refuse to give Trotz any credit for what he accomplished here? Why do you guys think its OK that the Caps neglected to mention Trotz or other players when raising the banner? Should I go on?

 

[Devil Dancer]

OK why all the hatred for Trotz? And why did all of you guys want to run him out of town? Why do you guys refuse to give Trotz any credit for what he accomplished here? Why do you guys think its OK that the Caps neglected to mention Trotz or other players when raising the banner? Should I go on?

You know the answers to these questions.

Many of us were ready to move on from Trotz for two reasons. First, he failed to get the Caps past the second round with what we thought was the best Caps roster ever. The consensus was that the Caps downgraded in the summer of 2017, so what chance did the team have of winning with the same coaching staff but an inferior roster?

Second, the team wasn't very good in the first half of 17-18. They were inconsistent right up to the trade deadline, when the acquisitions of JJ and especially Kempny (along with a reported change to the defensive gameplan) righted the ship.

Hindsight is great and all, but there were legit reasons to support a coaching change last year. It wasn't irrational Trotz hate, it was reasonable and objectively supportable.

As for the banner raising ceremony, let's see what happens when the Isles come to town. If the Caps do something nice for BT then this is a non-issue.

 

[trick9]

He'll get his applause when he comes back.

2 games into a season and already shut down one of the best offenses in the league. This isn't a run-and-gun team, it's early in the season and the numbers will fall back to earth.

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

Too big, too strong, too fast, too Wilson.