Speculation: Caps General Discussion (Coaching/FAs/Cap/Lines etc) -- 2018-19 We Are The Champions Edition - Pt. 1

[Sam Spade]

After that, for the remaining cap space nobody is gonna bat an eye if they decide to bring back Orpik, or another vet D, or a vet 4C, or a vet backup goalie, or Mickey Mouse, or bank it. It's all good, cherries on top of a giant cake.

I feel this way as well, I won't care either way, I just don't think for the team on the ice it is a smart move. To each their own I guess.

Some turnover is important, fresh hungry blood and all (see every team to win the Cup in the last ten years.). Losing Beagle and healthy scratch Alex Chiasson is pretty meh.

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Clearly you do care and are quite vocal about it....over and over and over....lol.....

 

[kmart]

i am ok with orpik if his contract is cheap, he plays limited mins, not all 80 games, 6-7 defense role... and is fresh for the po.

so basically if all the moves the caps need to do are made... only then they could look at a cheap orpik deal for 1-2 years.

 

[Sam Spade]

Clearly you do care and are quite vocal about it....over and over and over....lol.....

I do in the sense that I wouldn't want it to be ANY vet player who is slow.

 

[Ajax1995]

I welcome it. I think he’d be a very solid add at a lower cap hit. We all know the frustration around him was mostly due to cost. If he’d been a 1.5m player, people would’ve loved him.

The frustration was cost and the role he was being forced to play, the latter not in anyway his fault. Once he was able to slide back to the 3rd pairing and was no longer being asked to play 22 minutes a game as Carlson’s partner his play improved significantly IMO. It wasn’t his fault they didn’t have anyone to play next to Carlson until they picked up Kempny.

 

[Sam Spade]

 

[txpd]

The frustration was cost and the role he was being forced to play, the latter not in anyway his fault. Once he was able to slide back to the 3rd pairing and was no longer being asked to play 22 minutes a game as Carlson’s partner his play improved significantly IMO. It wasn’t his fault they didn’t have anyone to play next to Carlson until they picked up Kempny.

Iirc Orpik was only playing 20 and with Carlson while Niskanen was out. When 2 returned Djoos got that assignment. Kempny didn't play anymore than Orpik did. Their roles were just different.

 

[Empty Goal Net]

/// Some turnover is important, fresh hungry blood and all (see every team to win the Cup in the last ten years.). Losing Beagle and healthy scratch Alex Chiasson is pretty meh.

Don't forget, the farewells include Gruby and most likely Jerabek.

Turnover is a good thing, if done with a purpose (or purposes). A bunch of it happened to the Caps during the prior off-season. Losing Williams, Alzner, Mojo, among others. Much of it they had little or no control over. Due to departures and injuries (Osh, Nisky, others), Caps had to throw a bunch of kids and borderline guys into games and roles that they weren't ready for/accustomed to. Things worked out, for the most part.

With or without Orpik's return, I expect some change during the coming season, too. In addition to injuries, mgmt will have a better idea of who among the young guys can be dealt - either during the season in case something like an injury requires it, or at deadline to nab a "missing piece."

I have no special place in my heart for trying to get the band back together without a good reason. We'll see what BMac is able to put together for opening night.

 

[Ajax1995]

Iirc Orpik was only playing 20 and with Carlson while Niskanen was out. When 2 returned Djoos got that assignment. Kempny didn't play anymore than Orpik did. Their roles were just different.

If there was only some place we could go to find this information...

He was already playing 22 minutes a game before Niskanen went down, including almost 25 minutes in the 1st game of the season. Niskanen came back in mid November and it wasn’t until mid December when they finally started backing off his regular ice time a bit. And then after the deadline they stepped it down a decent amount again.

 

[trick9]

Not that surprising. He'd be a solid backup with some experience. Propably a cheap option if Leafs see Sparks ahead of him in their depth chart.

 

[Corby78]

Hershey? Can’t imagine they would make this to replace Copley

 

[Sam Spade]

Hershey? Can’t imagine they would make this to replace Copley

As a backup then cause it is 100% Samsonov's net in Hershey.

 

[Corby78]

Not that surprising. He'd be a solid backup with some experience. Propably a cheap option if Leafs see Sparks ahead of him in their depth chart.

I don’t see him as an improvement really over Copley, would rather stay pat

 

[Corby78]

As a backup then cause it is 100% Samsonov's net in Hershey.

I don’t like that either. Stay put unless you really improve the backup spot

 

[SherVaughn30]

I don’t see him as an improvement really over Copley, would rather stay pat

2 > 87

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

not sure if mentioned. but id assume after kempny signed thats gone

I imagine that possibility was gone once Carlson re-signed. GMBM knows if Carlson walks the Caps are a significantly weaker team and I bet acquiring EK would have been Plan A if Carlson wanted too much.

 

[NobodyBeatsTheWiz]

Who takes Orpik's role if he doesn't return? Somebody physical, so definitely not Djoos. Jerabek is largely untested (and unsigned). Maybe Siegenthaler in a year or two. Not Nessie. Anyone else under contract? Orpik at $1-1.5m for 50 to 60 games could be the best option.

I'm guessing Kempny would take the PK time, and they'd ride the kids until the deadline. As for the physical part, I'd bet on a collective emphasis rather than one player in that role.

Mind you, this is just under the assumption they dont bring 44 back. I'd be happy with either outcome for him.

 

[Raikkonen]

If some LD gets injured while playing PK... it will just open the door for LuJo or Siege to show their skills (both guys are bigger and billed as defensively solid).

Dont want Orlov to risk himself too much but... why not? Carlson and Nisky are there all the time and I think both were't injured due to blocking shots lately.

 

[Corby78]

2 > 87

I was unaware that games played was the key decider. I don’t see an improvement that is worth trading something away and then paying an extra 350k a year. To me you we should either look for something that better or stay pat. And on top of that if you bring him in you have to get rid of Copley because you have nowhere to play him

 

[hockeykicker]

so what do we expect the caps to do tomorrow?

 

[Calicaps]

so what do we expect the caps to do tomorrow?

Not much. Maybe a vet backup G.

 

[hockeykicker]

Not much. Maybe a vet backup G.

thats why i think, maybe a 4th liner. just wasant sure if anyone thought there was a slight chance they chased a defender

 

[Langway]

Hershey depth may be the only lock but there's a decent case for 4C, third pair D and 2G on the cheap. I'd say just value period and maybe younger, PKer types in particular. The D question likely rests on Orpik. Outside of him in a thin market, the best value bets may be Davidson, Claesson, Emelin, Folin or DeMelo.

 

[stanleycaps18]

w/r to the Free Agent period, it is Orpik or nothing, other than Hershey depth. No reason to pick up anything else, unless there is a gimme trade or something that dumps in your lap.

 

[AlexBrovechkin8]

so what do we expect the caps to do tomorrow?