GDT: Capitals @ Devils, 7:00 PM, Jaws

[SteveCangialosi123]

Bad game. Jack and Mercer sucked complete ass. Impressive that we even carried play with that line being as awful as it was. Blackwood was crappy.

 

[Devs3cups]

Wow. Seriously man. You need to take a chill pill and relax. Lol. Seriously. You hate the guy. Kind of a strong word.
All I said is that you continue to jump to conclusions and blame the goalie and not the defensive breakdowns.
You think he’s one of the worst in the game that’s fine. But analyze the actual goals and see why they are goals instead of just blaming the goalie. Reading your comments jumping right on the goalie while ignoring culpability on other players gives you zero credibility as a hockey fan.

I 100% understand all of that and yes, the turnovers were bad.

Thing is, turnovers and breakdowns happen, in every single game, to every single team.

These mistakes don't have to be automatic goals. Goalies are there as the last line of defence, they can make those saves once in a while, and it certainly seems like we rarely get those timely saves from our goalies.

Good and great goalies don't all get stellar defensive play. We sometimes think they do, because they bail their teams out a whole lot with timely saves though.

 

[JimEIV]

They ended up scoring 3 goals on the night. You score 3 goals you should be walking away with at least 1 point and most nights 2 points.

Do they need to finish better? Yes, slightly. But they need saves at the end of the day.

3 goals is below league average. 3 goals aren't winning you games most nights

And to say they scored 3 when their 2nd and 3rd goals come in the 3rd after being down 5-1 when the game was already over can not be real?

 

[Horus]

They ended up scoring 3 goals on the night. You score 3 goals you should be walking away with at least 1 point and most nights 2 points.

Do they need to finish better? Yes, slightly. But they need saves at the end of the day.

What im saying is, the timing of the goals matter. They needed those meaningless third period goals in the first or second to play hockey with a lead or at least stop the bleeding in the second. They're not giving blackwood any chance to build any confidence. Im not trying to defend him, he should be better, but this goes both ways. The offense should be able to help their goaltender have or build some confidence.

 

[Eggtimer]

But seriously though, besides Jack we have no one that has even sniffed 30 goals before. Not one 30 goal guy. We have playmakers out the ass but no one that has ever scored more than 30 goals in their life in the NHL. That’s a little bit concerning.

 

[njdevils1982]

"i thought jack had a rough game"

-ruff

 

[Richer's Ghost]

When your 4th line is leading the effort the entire game - things are gonna go bad all over the ice, not just in net.

 

[Dylan9z9]

EVERY TEAM has defensive breakdowns. Every goalie has defensive breakdowns happen. If they didn't, teams would have like just a few shots a game and goalies would only have to face a few shots a game. You can literally blame EVERY shot on goal on a skater. Even a dump in.

But not every goalie has played as poorly as Mackenzie Blackwood has over the last 60 games he's played. Almost no goalie has in that time period with a minimum of I'm gonna say 30 games? The league has had a lot of scrubini goalies play games over the last two years with the taxi squad's and covid protocols, so we've seen quite a fair share of really bad goalies/AHL guys (Gillies, Daws and Hammond all qualify) get into games over the last 2 years, but there's not many with Blackwood's numbers that have gotten into 60 games or even 30.

Not every goal is bad. Most goalies get scored on every game. It happens. Of course not all 5 goals were bad, but there were at least 2, maybe 3 that were. And that's a pretty big deal and it will and it HAS cost us games, especially last year and it's happened in all of the losses already this year. I mean, we lost by like 3 goals tonight, so maybe not.

I've always said this, BAD GOALTENDING hurts you more in the close games, not the blowouts.

Bleed you were right the first time Blackwood needs to stop 2 if not 3 of them goals and it would have been a game .... this guy is too inconsistent to count on so he needs to go!

 

[NJDevs26]

But seriously though, besides Jack we have no one that has even sniffed 30 goals before. Not one 30 goal guy. We have playmakers out the ass but no one that has ever scored more than 30 goals in their life in the NHL. That’s a little bit concerning.

And exactly why I'm not all that convinced that the advanced stats and shot totals portend a goal rush anytime soon. Especially as long as our geriatric coach insists on trapping Holtz in the doghouse.

 

[njdevils1982]

lindy shuts the presser down when asked about mac..... "the guys made mistakes"

 

[Bleedred]

I tune into the Oilers-Pens game and oilers score 2 goals. Must be bad goalies right? Or maybe it's just players actually capitalizing, something devils players can't ever seem to do while the opposing team can. Why I don't ever blame Blackwood. This stuff happens all the time around the league.

As I literally posted just above, in another game a team just scored 2 goals off bad defensive mistakes from the other team. Teams do this all the time, devils don't. That's the issue. Not mediocre goaltending. You guys are spoiled from MB30 I swear.

Okay, so you wanna play that game?

Why don’t we look up Tristan Jarry’s last 60 games and compare them to Blackwood’s last 60 games? I guarantee they are nowhere near as bad as Blackwood’s. Not even with his TRASH playoff series against the Islanders included.

 

[Devs3cups]

"i thought jack had a rough game"

-ruff

He absolutely did. Doesn't happen often, but he did tonight. He'll be back though, not concerned one bit.

 

[JimEIV]

"i thought jack had a rough game"

-ruff

And questions about finishing.

 

[PKs Broken Stick]

These mistakes don't have to be automatic goals. Goalies are there as the last line of defence, they can make those saves once in a while, and it certainly seems like we rarely get those timely saves from our goalies.

yea Blackwood didn't make a big save on Ovie early in the game or anything. This goalie hate is getting annoying.

 

[JimEIV]

"Can you teach finishing"

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

Hey @JimEIV you know what?

When your team is good enough to give opponents to shot only 22 shots per game, they deserve to win 1-0, 2-1 or 3-2 their games. Scoring is THE problem, but again - they are doing what they should do to stay in the game. Like it or not - when they missed only 18-24 shots - they are good enough to asking their goalie to let only two goals.

He and several others have tried explaining this to no avail.

Up 5-1 in the NHL teams generally roll lines, giving less time to their better offensive players, and limit shooting chances to avoid counter attacks.

This is something straight numbers fails to consider but has been a significant factor in quite a few Devils' games in recent years.

 

[Puckclektr]

EVERY TEAM has defensive breakdowns. Every goalie has defensive breakdowns happen. If they didn't, teams would have like just a few shots a game and goalies would only have to face a few shots a game. You can literally blame EVERY shot on goal on a skater. Even a dump in.

But not every goalie has played as poorly as Mackenzie Blackwood has over the last 60 games he's played. Almost no goalie has in that time period with a minimum of I'm gonna say 30 games? The league has had a lot of scrubini goalies play games over the last two years with the taxi squad's and covid protocols, so we've seen quite a fair share of really bad goalies/AHL guys (Gillies, Daws and Hammond all qualify) get into games over the last 2 years, but there's not many with Blackwood's numbers that have gotten into 60 games or even 30.

Not every goal is bad. Most goalies get scored on every game. It happens. Of course not all 5 goals were bad, but there were at least 2, maybe 3 that were. And that's a pretty big deal and it will and it HAS cost us games, especially last year and it's happened in all of the losses already this year. I mean, we lost by like 3 goals tonight, so maybe not.

I've always said this, BAD GOALTENDING hurts you more in the close games, not the blowouts.

I’m not 100% disagreeing with you.
He isn’t good but I think you are clearly over reacting and are just jumping on Blackwood and not the players putting him in those positions. Two of the goals the players had all the time in the world. You mentioned the first game against Philly. Same thing. Two goals were blamed on him yet silence on the players not taking their men.
Teams have defensive break downs and many goals have to be saved.
But most of your “hate” is on Blackwood. This is a team game and the team isn’t going to win scoring 2 goals a game on average. I don’t care what goalie you have in net.
Blackwood is an average goalie. I didn’t like the pick and I watch Blackwood play live probably 20 times before he was even a Debil. Didn’t like him. Still Not a big fan to be honest. But many of these goals haven’t been in Mackenzie. They were absolutely terrible breakdowns. I mean Ovy scores on that shot 30-40 times a year and Mackenzie is still blamed for it. Yet silence on the stupid penalty that led to the goal.
People tend to attack the goalie as a first resort and everyone always remembers who let in the goal as it is hard to forget it. But nobody ever remembers what led to those goals.
Living in Toronto is see it all the time. The amount of players that jump on the bandwagon and attack players is astounding.
Just like every problem in the world. It doesn’t just happen. There is normally a reason why it gets to that point and it seems you like to forget about the causes and just blame the finale of the play.

 

[MasterofGrond]

He and several others have tried explaining this to no avail.

Up 5-1 in the NHL teams generally roll lines, giving less time to their better offensive players, and limit shooting chances to avoid counter attacks.

This is something straight numbers fails to consider but has been a significant factor in quite a few Devils' games in recent years.

We limited shots just the same when we won the last 3, so I'm not sure blaming the score effects is strictly correct.

 

[Horus]

Bleed you were right the first time Blackwood needs to stop 2 if not 3 of them goals and it would have been a game .... this guy is too inconsistent to count on so he needs to go!

With the way the offense has been going I have a feeling that if blackwood stops the bleeding to 3-1 instead of 5-1, we probably go on to loosing 3-1 or 4-1. Those garbage meaningless goals when down by 4 in the third shouldnt be used agaisnt the goaltending. How many times has this team done that? We need those goals when it matters. This is how you're going to win most of the time. Goal timing is important, it changes the flow/dynamic/momentum of the game.

 

[MauDevils]

3rd goal the puck was out of the zone, Palat couldn't control it and we get caught in a line change. It directly led to Damon's turnover and a goal.

There was a lot of blame to go around tonight.

 

[jkrdevil]

3 goals is below league average. 3 goals aren't winning you games most nights

And to say they scored 3 when their 2nd and 3rd goals come in the 3rd after being down 5-1 when the game was already over can not be real?

My larger point was giving up 5 goals on the first 18 shots of the game is unacceptable. Obviously, if it is a 2-1 game going into the third it is played different. I understand butterfly effect. They at least have a shot in the game.

They played like crap overall in the first half and made awful turnovers. But 5 goals on 18 shots to that point is not NHL level goaltending. You of all people should no this.

They need someone to at least keep them into these type of games.

 

[Devs3cups]

yea Blackwood didn't make a big save on Ovie early in the game or anything. This goalie hate is getting annoying.

He can make more than one big save... Lindgren certainly did.

Like, I understand that this team isn't perfect defensively and I acknowledged that the turnovers were bad, cause they 100% were.

I still don't understand the idea that every time there's a turnover or a bad play, the goalie is off the hook regardless of the goal. He can still make a save even if the scoring chance results from a bad play from the D. In fact, most goals scored in the league are scored off of mistakes/breakdowns. It just seems we rarely get those timely saves.

 

[njdevils1982]

hahaha

chico implying the guy to sit but cant.....funny shit

 

[Emperoreddy]

4.52 xGF (3 GF)
2.04 xGA (6 GA)

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[MasterofGrond]

Every game the team is anything less than perfect in front of him blackwood gets smoked.

If we could get kept in it half the time, hell a quarter of the time I wouldn't be so mad. But it's every f***ing game