OT: Capitals Cinema Club: TV and Movies

[PlushMinus]

I’m kinda jumping in late here. But “Bodies” was my weekend project, and just finished it last night. Once I got to like Ep 4, I totally bought in and had to finish it asap. I thought it was really good - lots of holy shit moments, and it had a clever way of resolving the conflict.

FWIW, it reminded me a lot of DARK on Netflix. Similar kind of structure as Bodies with time travel hijinks, but way more complicated. If you have the time and patience to really get into it, it’s a pretty amazing 3 season experience. IMHO it’s the definitive time travel show of this era.

I loved Dark but thought Season 3 was a bit weak, didn't hold up as well. I definitely needed to use the Wiki page to keep track of the characters first time around.

Second viewing was really enjoyable as well.

 

[usiel]

Really liked Dark S1. But at this point to take on S2 after more than a couple of years feels like I need a re-watch which takes another kind of reference.

WoT is a book reading mountain it will always be there. Plenty of really good fantasy trilogies. Joe Abercrombie's First Book of Law trilogy is good.

 

[RedRocking]

Really liked Dark S1. But at this point to take on S2 after more than a couple of years feels like I need a re-watch which takes another kind of reference.

WoT is a book reading mountain it will always be there. Plenty of really good fantasy trilogies. Joe Abercrombie's First Book of Law trilogy is good.

So, I learned of this interactive guide for “Dark” somewhere around S2 of my watch:

THE END IS THE BEGINNING

Discover how everything is the same, but different.

dark.netflix.io

You tell it exactly where you are, and it only reveals the flowcharts up to that point. Yes flowcharts, lol. All the family trees, history of important objects, etc... It helped me a lot and I really liked seeing the whole thing completed in S3.

How this type of story ends is kinda YMMV, but it really is an amazing narrative achievement when all is said and done.

 

[usiel]

So, I learned of this interactive guide for “Dark” somewhere around S2 of my watch:

THE END IS THE BEGINNING

Discover how everything is the same, but different.

dark.netflix.io

You tell it exactly where you are, and it only reveals the flowcharts up to that point. Yes flowcharts, lol. All the family trees, history of important objects, etc... It helped me a lot and I really liked seeing the whole thing completed in S3.

How this type of story ends is kinda YMMV, but it really is an amazing narrative achievement when all is said and done.

Oh wow that is pretty cool thanks for sharing. More hope for finishing at this point, hah.

 

[RedRocking]

That was my favorite thing about Bodies, I'll just spoiler tag it.

Spoiler: Bodies full spoilers

When it started, I honestly started guessing shit left and right. Like, the amount of stuff I hit on pretty early felt like I was going to be disappointed. Knew Hillinghead was gay and that it'd f*** him right away, knew that the Mannix kid was going to be that Commander almost as soon as I saw him the Commander even though they don't really resemble each other, guessed almost immediately when presented that the same guy was going to be the 1890's lookalike. In any other show, if these things are all this predictable, it would likely turn out to be shit.

With this one however, it all just made really satisfying sense. Like, there were a lot that I also didn't guess or wasn't really thinking about and one or two that I got dead wrong (I was kind of hoping that the leader of the resistance in 2050-whatever was going to be an older Maplewood, not Hasan, but I like what they did better) just because I was embracing the ride, and the things that I guessed all made sense. They weren't tropes, they were right, accurate, logical progressions for the story.

I want to say about halfway through, maybe a little later, I thought to myself "if this has a good end there's going to be a point where it all kicks off" and for me, I think around episode 6 they'd closed almost all of the obvious loops. The things that make sense and are predictably going to happen sort of all resolve themselves if you're paying attention, but with two episodes left it's got to end somehow. That was maybe what I liked most about it, it lets you put pieces together and then once you're done with all the pieces you still realize there's a third of the puzzle to go, and you have no idea what it looks like.

Solved itself in a pretty clever way, managed to involve all 4 characters in almost equal parts playing their roles in changing history, literally, and managed to do a great job staying consistent and working with time travel in a way that wasn't complete nonsense.

Really good show

Spoiler: Bodies Spoilers

Yea, I’m not exactly sure when I started to entertain the idea that Elias=Mannix=Harker, maybe it was the kid’s goofy contacts. Also, I’m tempted to be annoying and mention “Dark” a million times - but I won’t, and to avoid spoilers, let’s just say it has some of the same concepts, so I was on the lookout for the signs pretty early on.

So, yea, it wasn’t a big surprise - but still executed well, and the effect on the characters was good. And seeing Hasan in the future was surprising. I thought the way the bomb went off was played well. I was like - there has to be a second detonator…phone? BOOM, lol.

Once the loop is established, there’s sort of a rote “filling in the gaps” that they have to do. Ep 7 dragged a bit, but it was totally necessary to understand the changes that were eventually made in Ep 8. And pulling an “Inception”-like move to change his mind was a very interesting way to go. And, as you said, it was great that each cop had a little part to play to put it all together - “just one good thing.” Really entertaining show with complex, likeable characters.

The end with Maplewood driving the cab, knowing Hasan, with a huge KYAL billboard was kinda strange and leaves a lot of questions. It was probably just a little gotcha moment. But I can imagine Maplewood still being a true believer in “the future” (just without the bomb) and keeping the cult going from the 1890’s. From there - maybe she becomes her own great-grandmother…who knows, lol.

 

[HTFN]

Spoiler: Bodies Spoilers

Yea, I’m not exactly sure when I started to entertain the idea that Elias=Mannix=Harker, maybe it was the kid’s goofy contacts. Also, I’m tempted to be annoying and mention “Dark” a million times - but I won’t, and to avoid spoilers, let’s just say it has some of the same concepts, so I was on the lookout for the signs pretty early on.

So, yea, it wasn’t a big surprise - but still executed well, and the effect on the characters was good. And seeing Hasan in the future was surprising. I thought the way the bomb went off was played well. I was like - there has to be a second detonator…phone? BOOM, lol.

Once the loop is established, there’s sort of a rote “filling in the gaps” that they have to do. Ep 7 dragged a bit, but it was totally necessary to understand the changes that were eventually made in Ep 8. And pulling an “Inception”-like move to change his mind was a very interesting way to go. And, as you said, it was great that each cop had a little part to play to put it all together - “just one good thing.” Really entertaining show with complex, likeable characters.

The end with Maplewood driving the cab, knowing Hasan, with a huge KYAL billboard was kinda strange and leaves a lot of questions. It was probably just a little gotcha moment. But I can imagine Maplewood still being a true believer in “the future” (just without the bomb) and keeping the cult going from the 1890’s. From there - maybe she becomes her own great-grandmother…who knows, lol.

Yeah, that part sort of set me back, but I was like "well hey it's only the end tag, I don't care if it goes anywhere but if it does it's interesting"

 

[usiel]

Ok so the shear utter glorious scifi scale of The Wandering Earth II is just crazy (and very good fx). Not saying it is a great movie in the normal sense.



Should add that 2 is the prequel to the first movie so it can be first. 2 is on prime the first one on netflix.

 

[ChaosLord]

Matthew Perry had no kids, but 5 siblings. I doubt he had written a will, not at the age of 54.
So get ready for a battle royale over the inheritance.

 

[Neil Racki]

Matthew Perry had no kids, but 5 siblings. I doubt he had written a will, not at the age of 54.
So get ready for a battle royale over the inheritance.

No wife, no kids, no will .... no problem. Just straight intestate distribution.

parents/siblings split evenly

 

[HTFN]

Finally watched Across the Spider-Verse, that's a good ass movie. Frankly just because of how stylized it is, even if it weren't good it would still be really fun to watch but both of the ones I've seen now have been A-level movies.

Really, truly good.

 

[notDkristich]

Finally watched Across the Spider-Verse, that's a good ass movie. Frankly just because of how stylized it is, even if it weren't good it would still be really fun to watch but both of the ones I've seen now have been A-level movies.

Really, truly good.

Fun movies. The combination of music and artistry of style plus actual character development make both of these movies 'must-see'.

My only gripe, was the second movie was about 15-20 minutes too long. Felt like the family rooftop party could have been cut in half.

 

[HTFN]

Fun movies. The combination of music and artistry of style plus actual character development make both of these movies 'must-see'.

My only gripe, was the second movie was about 15-20 minutes too long. Felt like the family rooftop party could have been cut in half.

I don’t necessarily think you’re wrong on a whole, if they rewrote other parts, but that scene really was one of the few that kept Miles protecting Miles. It was a good pressurized scene that made him explain why he can’t explain what he is, and it's better for it overall.

The moment he eventually does would have no weight without that.

 

[ChaosLord]

They've posted a full episode of Netflix new animated series "Blue Eye Samurai" on the net.
Prepare to have your face melted!

 

[HTFN]

They've posted a full episode of Netflix new animated series "Blue Eye Samurai" on the net.
Prepare to have your face melted!

Sometimes I just can't help myself, my idiot brain gets in the way...

I started this like "oh? face melt? let's see how it goes" and now I'm literally 3 minutes in going "wow, this is a kind of different animation and- how the f*** is he pinching the chop sticks with no hands" and I haven't been able to think of anything else since.

this early scene reminds me so much of Samurai Champloo

 

[CapitalsCupReality]

Invasion Season 2…..meh…..finished it, kinda bored.


Foundation season 2 is F’ing awesome! Maybe best syfy on right now…..

 

[HTFN]

Sometimes I just can't help myself, my idiot brain gets in the way...

I started this like "oh? face melt? let's see how it goes" and now I'm literally 3 minutes in going "wow, this is a kind of different animation and- how the f*** is he pinching the chop sticks with no hands" and I haven't been able to think of anything else since.

this early scene reminds me so much of Samurai Champloo

also the f*** is Netflix thinking because they just put boobies on youtube. That's not, like... gonna work for them very long. I just hit the geisha scene and goddamn, that's getting taken down real quick.

 

[ChaosLord]

also the f*** is Netflix thinking because they just put boobies on youtube. That's not, like... gonna work for them very long. I just hit the geisha scene and goddamn, that's getting taken down real quick.

57:45. Please don't take that down

 

[HTFN]

57:45. Please don't take that down

also I could be way wrong and just calling my shot to call it because I'm only like 30 minutes in but....

the main character seems like they very well may be a woman, would be very interesting if so. Either way, I'm in, this show's going to rip.

 

[PlushMinus]

57:45. Please don't take that down

You like animated nudity? Yikes

 

[ChaosLord]

also I could be way wrong and just calling my shot to call it because I'm only like 30 minutes in but....

the main character seems like they very well may be a woman, would be very interesting if so. Either way, I'm in, this show's going to rip.

LOL entirely possible LOL.

 

[HTFN]

LOL entirely possible LOL.

I'm committed to not checking the voice actors just in case, but like... they have androgynous character design and there are a lot of references between them being a black sheep (the mixed heritage thing) and the sheer amount of overt references to being a man/boy/swordsman that I'm soft calling it.

I also thought there was something more to being more defensive about grabbing their genitals in the geisha scene than needed to be, it didn't need to be that direct and framed like that to confirm that the main character isn't interested in them. I felt like that has a real point. Come to think of it the throat covering is also a bit of a tell. Not on its own, but when you add them all up I'm curious.

edit: this chess match scene with the real sword fight is great, all the little visualizations and adjustments are really doing it for me.

okay yeah now I'm pretty sure of it. This is rated R Mulan but Japanese and I'm 100% here for it.

aaaand there it is, there's the timestamp. Yep

 

[usiel]

Invasion S2 overall was decent but the season finale was a little meh.

Still nursing a handful of S2 Foundation episodes.

 

[Calicaps]

Invasion S2 overall was decent but the season finale was a little meh.

Still nursing a handful of S2 Foundation episodes.

Foundation S2 impressed.

 

[notDkristich]

I don’t necessarily think you’re wrong on a whole, if they rewrote other parts, but that scene really was one of the few that kept Miles protecting Miles. It was a good pressurized scene that made him explain why he can’t explain what he is, and it's better for it overall.

The moment he eventually does would have no weight without that.

Re-watched...from the party initiation to his mom cutting him loose was 20 total minutes. An eternity in cinema.

 

[HTFN]

Re-watched...from the party initiation to his mom cutting him loose was 20 total minutes. An eternity in cinema.

It hits two completely different emotional beats and establishes multiple tensions for the emotional back half of the movie between lying to his parents, the temptation to reveal, and then the emotional girl troubles.

Is it action packed? No, not really. Does it matter and get bookended by action and humor? Yeah, so they can afford it. I liked that there were emotional threads grounding it instead of being a Marvel quip-fest.