Post-Game Talk: Canucks WIN. Def. Kraken - 5-4 (Mikheyev x2, Kuzmenko, Pettersson, Garland)

[bossram]

Seattle is low-key playing very solid hockey as well. And yet this is probably their most "winnable" game.

 

[PuckMunchkin]

The really weird thing is the Canucks do have B2B (Penguins on Friday) but the Penguins have a nice long two day break…

I think if we lose against Seattle we go until the Ducks to win a game..

 

[VanJack]

Dead last in the league, and looking up in the standings at the expansion Kraken. Does it get any more futile than that?

The problem of course is that in pursuit of their first win of the year, the Canucks will have to find a way to overcome that blueline. With Myers and OEL basically going through the motions, and Quinn Hughes out, this blueline would struggle to stop goals in the AHL.

Looks like Spencer Martin is being fed to the wolves tonight at Climate Pledge Arena. According to the weather report there's another 'atmospheric river' on its way to the Pacific Northwest. Hope the Canucks don't drown out there tonight, because they're fast becoming 'the story' in the NHL for all the wrong reasons.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Dead last in the league, and looking up in the standings at the expansion Kraken. Does it get any more futile than that?

The problem of course is that in pursuit of their first win of the year, the Canucks will have to find a way to overcome that blueline. With Myers and OEL basically going through the motions, and Quinn Hughes out, this blueline would struggle to stop goals in the AHL.

Looks like Spencer Martin is being fed to the wolves tonight at Climate Pledge Arena. According to the weather report there's another 'atmospheric river' on its way to the Pacific Northwest. Hope the Canucks don't drown out there tonight, because they're fast becoming 'the story' in the NHL for all the wrong reasons.

I would agree with JR that it is not solely on the D as to the reason we're losing games..There's a disconnect between the forwards and the D..and the forwards are just as much to blame for coughing up the puck, not being able to execute, and blowing multi goal leads.

If the Canuck players have decided to quit on each other..then we have a problem.

Spencer Martin wont be fed to the wolves TONIGHT.

 

[Vector]

I think if we lose against Seattle we go until the Ducks to win a game..

That’s how I have it. Very high chance they go the entire opening month without a win.

Next month isn’t going to be any easier as they start facing elite teams and a lot of competitive teams.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

That’s how I have it. Very high chance they go the entire opening month without a win.

Next month isn’t going to be any easier as they start facing elite teams and a lot of competitive teams.

I would disagree there...There aren't 3 games in 4 nights on the road..and there's only one b2b on an eastern swing bookended with two days off before and after..

Provided the Canucks can somewhat get their shit together....They get the Leafs in TO, and COL..Other than that, I dont think that there's any juggernaut teams that are completely beyond their scope of winning.

 

[Canuckle1970]

Dead last in the league, and looking up in the standings at the expansion Kraken. Does it get any more futile than that?

The problem of course is that in pursuit of their first win of the year, the Canucks will have to find a way to overcome that blueline. With Myers and OEL basically going through the motions, and Quinn Hughes out, this blueline would struggle to stop goals in the AHL.

Looks like Spencer Martin is being fed to the wolves tonight at Climate Pledge Arena. According to the weather report there's another 'atmospheric river' on its way to the Pacific Northwest. Hope the Canucks don't drown out there tonight, because they're fast becoming 'the story' in the NHL for all the wrong reasons.

The Kraken/Canuck game is Thursday night, VanJack.

 

[Vector]

I would disagree there...There aren't 3 games in 4 nights on the road..and there's only one b2b on an eastern swing bookended with two days off before and after..

Provided the Canucks can somewhat get their shit together....They get the Leafs in TO, and COL..Other than that, I dont think that there's any juggernaut teams that are completely beyond their scope of winning.

Avalanche, Golden Knights (2), Bruins, and Maple Leafs. The Senators, Sabres, Capitals, and Devils are all currently over .500 with the Kings at .500.

A lot can change between now and those games but I'm seeing a lot of teams that outmatch the Canucks.

 

[Cancuks]

This lineup is so bad it's almost as if there is an active attempt to do a stealth tank this season.

 

[TruGr1t]

This lineup is so bad it's almost as if there is an active attempt to do a stealth tank this season.

This team was not built with contingencies in place, it was not built to withstand much of anything, let alone major injuries. It’s a house of cards. Working under the assumption everything has to go perfectly for you to succeed is a fool’s errand.

 

[bossram]

This team was not built with contingencies in place, it was not built to withstand much of anything, let alone major injuries. It’s a house of cards. Working under the assumption everything has to go perfectly for you to succeed is a fool’s errand.

And yet...maybe this time...it'll work for us?

I think your and my assessment of this team in the offseason was spot on TruGr1t. The Canucks are a mediocre team. If everything breaks right for a mediocre team, they can make the playoffs.

When things break the wrong way for a mediocre team, this is what it looks like.

The Canucks ceiling was only ever to be a fringe playoff team, likely to get demolished by Colorado in round 1. The downside well...we're seeing it.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Avalanche, Golden Knights (2), Bruins, and Maple Leafs. The Senators, Sabres, Capitals, and Devils are all currently over .500 with the Kings at .500.

A lot can change between now and those games but I'm seeing a lot of teams that outmatch the Canucks.

The Red Wings and the Blackhawks are also .500 or above..doesnt make them elite.

Other than COL and the Leafs..everyone is pretty much in the same category..Its called parity.

 

[iFan]

That’s how I have it. Very high chance they go the entire opening month without a win.

Next month isn’t going to be any easier as they start facing elite teams and a lot of competitive teams.

honestly the harder we fall this month and next month the better it ”should” be for our future. If we lose every game in Oct and continue the losing ways in November they can no longer sells this crap to even the most delusional fans. If we keep on losing the blinders should come off and reveal what this team really is.

 

[VanJack]

You know the sad thing about this Canucks blueline is that they're not losing because it's young and inexperienced. You could live with that.

But the highest paid d-men on the team are OEL and Myers. When others go down with injuries, as veterans they should be able to step up and fill the gap. But of course we know they can't. Despite their contracts, at this point in their careers they're barely above replacement level defensemen, and it's only going to get worse.

But that's all on Benning. Other than Hughes, he couldn't draft a single impact d-man in eight years. And despite all the naysayers who turned out to be correct, he ignored reality and either acquired or signed d-men who were clearly on the backside of the mountain.

The Canucks bled assets to acquire guys like OEL and Gudbranson. And the Myers contract is an albatross. Sadly there's just not a lot of wriggle room for the current regime. They're just screwed in fixing the blueline.

 

[mathonwy]

You know the sad thing about this Canucks blueline is that they're not losing because it's young and inexperienced. You could live with that.

But the highest paid d-men on the team are OEL and Myers. When others go down with injuries, as veterans they should be able to step up and fill the gap. But of course we know they can't. Despite their contracts, at this point in their careers they're barely above replacement level defensemen, and it's only going to get worse.

But that's all on Benning. Other than Hughes, he couldn't draft a single impact d-man in eight years. And despite all the naysayers who turned out to be correct, he ignored reality and either acquired or signed d-men who were clearly on the backside of the mountain.

The Canucks bled assets to acquire guys like OEL and Gudbranson. And the Myers contract is an albatross. Sadly there's just not a lot of wriggle room for the current regime. They're just screwed in fixing the blueline.

Actually it's on FAQ for hiring people stupider than him so he can feel smart.

Seattle is low-key playing very solid hockey as well. And yet this is probably their most "winnable" game.

They gonna kick our teeth in

 

[ChuckNorris4Cup]

I haven't looked it up but heard Lazar is injured, my gut is telling me he injured himself last game when he went to make a hit but missed and smashed those boards so hard


And injury prone Brock needs the boot imo.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Missing the playoffs and picking 15th was the absolute perfect outcome for this roster, generating maximum results lmao

This is just disingenuous. It ignores that they buried themselves for 20 + games and then were a 100+ point team afterwards, but go off with that narrative if you want.

 

[tantalum]

This is just disingenuous. It ignores that they buried themselves for 20 + games and then were a 100+ point team afterwards, but go off with that narrative if you want.

It’s not disingenuous. That’s how seasons work. 82 full games where it’s not easy to simply ignore a major chunk of it.

Another way to look at things…in the last 31 games the Canucks now have 11 wins (31 points). That’s it. Now add in those games under Green….25 games, 8 wins (19 pts). Not a huge difference in win rate. Point percentage both underwhelming to say the least over lengthy stretches. So 56 games of the last 89 of underwhelming point collection under two different coaches. But it’s the 33 other games with 21 wins/46 points that mean everything?

I personally don’t think so. It reflects a very up and down set of games with extreme swings with a team ending up being at best average. Don’t ignore anything it all means something and the evidence is of a very mediocre team overall.

 

[Kryten]

Congrats on having made it here for so long! I’m sorry things are though for you right now, I hope they improve. It’s always good to come here to throw your hands up in the air in the rain like in Shawshank with fellow fans over the tribulations of this team.

Less than two months away from Mr Cs geriatric f*** award

 

[vadim sharifijanov]

spotted on my walk to work this morning

 

[wonton15]

The Ducks look just as bad as us defensively

Gonna be a 6-5 game when we face them

 

[Coffee]

With Myers and OEL basically going through the motions, and Quinn Hughes out, this blueline would struggle to stop goals in the AHL.

Really? I feel like experience of OEL alone would give them a huge advantage. And he can log half the game probably having very, very slight more time to think and utilize his energy

 

[eviohh26]

We are all losers! I mean Canucks!

 

[sting101]

spotted on my walk to work this morning

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Looks like you were almost there

 

[DFAC]

Best thing we can do now is just keep losing.

Team is already out of it, start shutting down players so we can tank properly

The worst outcome is being a mediocre team not good enough to compete and drafting 10-15

Its shocking how management cant see this yet