Rumor: Canucks walked away from Evander Kane trade

[PetterssonSimp]

Not to mention, unless their potential is through the roof (Matthews), it makes little sense for Vancouver to draft a center now. Henrik isn't retiring anytime soon, meaning said draftee or Horvat will spend the next few years on the third line. We desperately need defense too. May as well build that while Henrik's around.

Only thing that made sense if it wasn't for CBJ would be to draft Dubois and start him on LW like Gally in Montreal did.
Otherwise yes I do agree, my pick was Matty Tkachuk, but I also knew we needed a true blue chip defender in the wings. OJ was my safe defence/safe draft pick, all the makings of an NHL defender but none of the stand out qualities to say "THAT GUY!" To me that defence draftee was Serg.

So none of what that poster even mentioned is even close to possible. Makes me wonder if people just hate Vancouver for the sake of fitting in and being part of the "cool" crowd. It's funny how perennial losers like the Leafs and Oilers constantly get coddled by fans and the league alike, but a team who actually put the effort into being a top team for so long but now sucks is belittled and called down like they are the worst thing since the Grammar Nazi invention.

 

[kp61c]

sad, he'd be a nice fit in that tire fire

 

[belair]

Virtanen for Kane

Just do it already.

 

[EP to Kuzmenko]

Virtanen for Kane

Just do it already.

Please no, I would rather hang on to JV and have him become a bust, rather than trade him for Kane.

 

[Jumptheshark]

Virtanen for Kane

Just do it already.

Nucks do that deal..... man Benning must be a "special" friend to the owner to keep his job

 

[tony d]

They walked away from a Kane trade? Good for them, maybe they're starting to get it there.

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

Virtanen for Kane

Just do it already.

Evander Kane as no value. Sbisa for Evander Kane and a 3rd.

 

[Gabriel Landeskog]

Buffalo scouts have been watching Utica. All signs point to Virtanen.

Honest mistake by Buffalo scouts. The same colour scheme threw them off all this time.

 

[PG Canuck]

If any of you actually think the Canucks would sell Virtanen when his value as probably at its lowest, you really should give your head a shake and reflect on what you know about hockey and the business around it.

The Canucks made their choice at the draft and will look even dumber than they already do if they trade him considering where he is at in his devlopment.

So Friedman says the Canucks weren't willing to trade for Kane because the Sabres were asking for too much.. and your conclusion is that Virtanen is a part of the deal?

The Canucks are finally doing what's best for his development, got really high hopes for him and believe in his potential, but are then going to turn around and trade him?

The guy is 20 years old.

Why are you getting all snippy for? Utica has no other good pieces than Virtanen, Subban, Demko and Pedan if you think he is anything valuable.

The Canucks also made their choice with Bonino. They hyped him up and then later moved him for a 'better player' a year later while trashing his game.

I wasn't saying they are going to trade Virtanen...I was just predicting that the Buffalo scouts were looking at him, or they are looking at those three other prospects. Demko makes absolutely no sense, Subban I could see being moved, Pedan maybe but Benning likes those big players.

Especially looking at all the 'accelerated development' moves the Canucks have made, I could see Virtanen being moved for Kane.

 

[PG Canuck]

My guess would be Andrey Pedan & Jordan Subban; both are good prospects w/ a reasonably high probability of becoming NHLers soon. Plus the Canucks have a bit of a logjam at D, so something has to give sooner or later.

I agree.

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

I hope Kane doesn't go to the Canucks, hoping the Coyotes or Islanders.

 

[VaporTrail]

Evander Kane as no value. Sbisa for Evander Kane and a 3rd.

it's over...re-read the thread title

 

[Zaddy91]

The Province is British Columbias main newspaper and Botchford is credible beyond his own general idiocy.

the province is a tabloid.

**** source

 

[Oliewud]

elliot friedman said last night theres been tons of buffalo scouts at the utica comets games... I think this is still going on....

 

[dkollidas]

elliot friedman said last night theres been tons of buffalo scouts at the utica comets games... I think this is still going on....

I think it's something that might go into the off-season as a deal looking forward to 2017-2018

 

[PetterssonSimp]

elliot friedman said last night theres been tons of buffalo scouts at the utica comets games... I think this is still going on....

Yeah also a reported shift in focus to one of the young centreman the Sabres own. A certain #2 overall pick the Canucks tried to move up to grab at #1 originally. Doesn't really matter as either of those centreman shouldn't be available and Benning wouldn't have the negotiating skill to pull one in. He'd end up with Johan Larsson or something.

 

[Blueangel1891]

Yeah also a reported shift in focus to one of the young centreman the Sabres own. A certain #2 overall pick the Canucks tried to move up to grab at #1 originally. Doesn't really matter as either of those centreman shouldn't be available and Benning wouldn't have the negotiating skill to pull one in. He'd end up with Johan Larsson or something.

Who the **** do we have in Utica to trade for Reinhart anyway?

 

[sasha barkov]

Who the **** do we have in Utica to trade for Reinhart anyway?

Virtanen

 

[iFan]

Virtanen for Kane

Just do it already.

Canucks better not do this... thats too much for Kane at this point given his injury history and off ice issues, bringing him home to live the party life would be a huge mistake.

 

[PetterssonSimp]

Who the **** do we have in Utica to trade for Reinhart anyway?

IMHO who is to say V is the only piece, or even the true main component of the deal? No matter the deal it just continues the trend of no direction. Eriksson to return to par for scoring of the hopeful playoff Canucks along with an accelerated development move grabbing Gudbranson; only to turn around and make a rebuilding move? Next will be a Miller extension and a Markstrom trade. It'd seal it

 

[quat]

If any of you actually think the Canucks would sell Virtanen when his value as probably at its lowest, you really should give your head a shake and reflect on what you know about hockey and the business around it.

The Canucks made their choice at the draft and will look even dumber than they already do if they trade him considering where he is at in his devlopment.

So Friedman says the Canucks weren't willing to trade for Kane because the Sabres were asking for too much.. and your conclusion is that Virtanen is a part of the deal?

The Canucks are finally doing what's best for his development, got really high hopes for him and believe in his potential, but are then going to turn around and trade him?

The guy is 20 years old.

So, Jared McCann was at peek value when he was traded?

I don't think you can apply logic to Jim Benning's moves, and there's ample evidence that proves this to be the case. He's all over the map with his moves and what he says ... and it seems to change from one game to the next.

Trading Virtanen for Kane is exactly the kind of lunacy that Benning would make.

 

[quat]

elliot friedman said last night theres been tons of buffalo scouts at the utica comets games... I think this is still going on....

Well, if they're watching Virtanen, they're likely asking for a higher pick as well. ha ha

 

[DeltaSwede]

So, Jared McCann was at peek value when he was traded?

I don't think you can apply logic to Jim Benning's moves, and there's ample evidence that proves this to be the case. He's all over the map with his moves and what he says ... and it seems to change from one game to the next.

Trading Virtanen for Kane is exactly the kind of lunacy that Benning would make.

Well, I'd argue that Virtanen's value right now is the lowest its ever been since he just got demoted to the AHL because he hasn't been good enough in the NHL. It's been pretty public as well and a whole lot of mess surrounding the situation. So, trading him right now would be even dumber than the picture that posters on here have painted Benning to be.

McCann was traded in the offseason after he spent the entirety of his rookie season in the NHL. His value was capitalised. He hasn't been great in Florida and is now also in the AHL (is he still there?). The Canucks have a top 4 rhd 24 year old in thanks to it.

Trading McCann now that he is in the AHL (?), would be comparable to trading Virtanen right now.

Also, why do you think this is something that Benning would do? He's gone out and said he won't jeopardize the future of this team, and he's also said Jake is a part of that future.

Is it because he traded Forsling for Clendening (who at the time was closer to the NHL)?

Because he traded McCann and draft picks for a young 2nd paring d?

Because he traded 2nd round picks for young players that were close to being NHL regulars (or believed they would be)? 2nd round picks that are far from guaranteed to generate NHL players?

I don't see anything in Bennings past, that would suggest he would make such a move.

He hasn't traded young players, or draft picks, unless it were for young pieces returning.

Bonino and pieces for Sutter? Sutter is a year younger and better.

Almost all, if not all, trades have been with the intention of getting younger. Free agent signings have been to supply a competitive environment.

Trading Virtanen, the pick that this management group will live and die by, at his lowest value, makes so little sense it hurts. Nothing points to Benning trading his first ever draft pick for the Canucks. Nothing. Unless it's for another young player with similar potential. Kane's not that.

Plus, the Canucks aren't pursuing Kane anymore are they? It could be anything.

Jordan Subban for Will Carrier? who freaking knows.

 

[Der Jaeger]

Yeah also a reported shift in focus to one of the young centreman the Sabres own. A certain #2 overall pick the Canucks tried to move up to grab at #1 originally. Doesn't really matter as either of those centreman shouldn't be available and Benning wouldn't have the negotiating skill to pull one in. He'd end up with Johan Larsson or something.

Who reported that the Canucks are asking about Reinhart?

 

[Zip15]

I'd imagine that Buffalo would want Subban as a secondary piece in any Kane trade. With how bad Nelson has looked this year, we really have nothing on defense at the AHL level who should be anything more than an injury plug. Borgen and Fitzgerald are still in college and a few years away, and Guhle is going to need some AHL seasoning next year. Given Buffalo's complete lack of offensive contribution from its defensemen - one goal from a defenseman this season and lowest scoring blueline in the league - and a dearth of defensemen with dynamic skating ability, I think Subban would be attractive to the Sabres.