Confirmed with Link: Canucks Trade W Vasily Podkolzin to Oilers for 2025 4th (OTT)

[Russian_fanatic]

5 goals, 9 assists, 14 points in 31 VHL games

7 goals, 12 assists, 19 points in 68 KHL games

22 goals, 24 assists, 46 points in 82 AHL games

3 goals, 9 assists, 12 points in 21 WJC games

18 goals, 17 assists, 35 points in 135 NHL games.

I've been meaning to make this post for awhile. Has a guy who has been unproductive as Podkolzin ever been given this much leeway? Dude has stone hands, and constantly flubs the puck. His only saving grace is he's semi physical and he's strong, but other than that he has absolutely 0 offensive creativity or IQ. Glad I don't have to read about how he might break out anymore lmao.

 

[Rowlet]

I like this deal

4th > nothing

Oilers make space to match the Broberg OS which screws up their cap and he was really bad analytically in the playoffs, opening up Bouch to an offer sheet, and ruining cap plans for McDrai

 

[VanJack]

Weak point in our amateur European scouting (who otherwise pull their weight in the organization unlike Delorme & Co.). Though much of that I guess is a holdover from the Gillis regime who didn't seem to place too high a priority (for good or bad reasons) in drafting Russians.

The 'weak point' is Benning and his awful drafting. Just another pick from that era who flopped, at least as far as the Canucks are concerned.

Any time you're forced to trade a former top-10 pick in Podkolzin for a fourth round draft pick, just to dump a $1m salary, it's an epic fail. But clearly the current Canucks front office is convinced this kid will never be able to help them. I guess his disappearing act once he did get back to the NHL last spring, was the final straw.

But what does it mean for Edmonton? That they're walking away from both Broberg and Holloway, and replacing the latter with a younger, cheaper contract? And what does it portend for the Canucks?. Are they clearing some space for another guy out there that they like? Or are going to give Lekkerimaki a long, long look in training camp?

 

[JumpierPegasus]

Guys we got a 4th round pick for a .5ppg 23 year old AHLer

 

[David71]

I kinda get the trade rationale but the timing is weird. Hopefully setting up another move or signing...

it has to be. kind of allvins Mo. i guess we shall wait and see how training camp sets out. 4-5 preseason games for the kids to make an impression then alvin will probbalyt make a move before the regular season. hes been doing that 2x already during his tenure as GM. latest one was pearson for desmith last season.

 

[tyhee]

I was hoping he'd have one more chance to prove himself at camp.

Guess they dont really dont think much of the previous managemen's draft picks.

I guess AGM Milstein loses his job too now?

Since you mentioned Milstein ...

My reaction to this deal was that there is little if any upside for the Canucks other than being seen to do a player a solid by moving him to a winner where he actually has a decent chance to win a roster spot. It wouldn't even surprise me if there were some talks with AGM Milstein about it.

If there is value here for the Canucks it may be the possibility of an effect on future signings of being seen as a place that will try to find a player an opportunity when things aren't working out for him in Vancouver.

 

[I Hart Conor Garland]

Wow..thats a bit of a showstopper..I thought they had a longer term plan for the player.?

I was rooting for the kid from the start, but I guess it demonstrates that pro hockey is a business, and this asset had run it's course...Pity.

He was drafted in 2019 and has shown bupkis. How much "longer" ya need?

 

[I Hart Conor Garland]

5 goals, 9 assists, 14 points in 31 VHL games

7 goals, 12 assists, 19 points in 68 KHL games

22 goals, 24 assists, 46 points in 82 AHL games

3 goals, 9 assists, 12 points in 21 WJC games

18 goals, 17 assists, 35 points in 135 NHL games.

I've been meaning to make this post for awhile. Has a guy who has been unproductive as Podkolzin ever been given this much leeway? Dude has stone hands, and constantly flubs the puck. His only saving grace is he's semi physical and he's strong, but other than that he has absolutely 0 offensive creativity or IQ. Glad I don't have to read about how he might break out anymore lmao.

He's a Russian version of Puljujarvi. You could ask AI to show you one of them and with the funny little mistakes and differences those AI generators spit out it'd just as likely show you the other guy. And not really be wrong.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Drafted same draft as Hoglander who was a later first and took a while to develop. That just shows how far Pod has fallen off as a draft pick. Oh well at least we got a player in that first round.

 

[Pastor Of Muppetz]

Is that all of our Russian players gone (in 6 months or so)..?

Podz,Zadorov,Mikheyev,Kuzmenko.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

Sheesh. Talk about selling low. On the plus side it was pretty obvious Podz wouldnt grow into a top 6.

 

[SopelFanThe3rd]

Is that all of our Russian players gone (in 6 months or so)..?

Podz,Zadorov,Mikheyev,Kuzmenko.

We went years without any Russians and then we had a whole bunch.

I liked Pod but yeah... maybe they ain't a fan of Russians. They can be enigmatic.

 

[Vector]

Drafted same draft as Hoglander who was a later first and took a while to develop. That just shows how far Pod has fallen off as a draft pick. Oh well at least we got a player in that first round.

Hoglander was a 2nd rounder.

 

[SopelFanThe3rd]

If this means Hog stays I'm good.

 

[Kickassguy]

Wonder if this trade might have been to "generate" a departing pick in a Poolman deal.

 

[Vector]

Is that all of our Russian players gone (in 6 months or so)..?

Podz,Zadorov,Mikheyev,Kuzmenko.

Only Russian left in the system under contract is Kudryavtsev.

 

[VancouverJagger]

Well this is ........underwhelming........fawk

 

[arttk]

Just sad

 

[StickShift]

I guess AGM Milstein loses his job too now?

Since you mentioned Milstein ...

My reaction to this deal was that there is little if any upside for the Canucks other than being seen to do a player a solid by moving him to a winner where he actually has a decent chance to win a roster spot. It wouldn't even surprise me if there were some talks with AGM Milstein about it.

If there is value here for the Canucks it may be the possibility of an effect on future signings of being seen as a place that will try to find a player an opportunity when things aren't working out for him in Vancouver.

FYI — Podkolzin has never been represented by Dan Milstein. He’s been with Newport the whole time in North America.

 

[DFAC]

Strange trade - made even stranger that management inked him to a 2 year extension just 4 months ago.

It's pretty obvious that guys like PDG, Aman and maybe even Bains/Sasson have passed him on the depth chart.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Can't wait for the first game against Edmonton for people to bitch about how Pod played against Van and mgmt gave him away for "nothing".

 

[I Hart Conor Garland]

Only Russian left in the system under contract is Kudryavtsev.

@EdJovanovski confirm?

 

[DFAC]

Not very high on Podkolzin, when you can't get ice time over PDG, you're pretty bad.

That being said, I'm not sure I was "ditch him for a 4th rounder" low on him, but it does clear a nice chunk of salary. Will depend on what they do with the space (ie. bank it, use it, etc.).

A bit weird from an Oilers perspective considering their salary cap conundrum though.

He's probably a Holloway replacement and they're letting him walk.

 

[lawrence]

10th pick curse strikes again.

 

[Nomobo]

The last of the Russians. The writing was on the wall, just wasn’t good enough.