Confirmed with Link: Canucks sign RW Loui Eriksson to 6-year, $36m deal ($6m AAV w/ NMC)
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clunk
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Thanks for the heads up.
Really though... What are we doing? Are we trying to make the playoffs? Trying to just remain 'competitive enough' to appease the casual fans? Trying to retool surrounding kids with veterans? Rebuilding and plan to sell off assets at the deadline?
There's literally no direction with this team. We're caught in no mans land, and I would not be at ALL surprised if we finished like 2-3 spots out of a playoff spot and drafted not even in the top 10... Aka the bubble..
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rune74
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I think it's clear they are trying to be competative while the Sedin's are still here...I think when they go the rebuild will start.
I'm not keen on a scorched earth rebuild that some want, tout Toronto all you want, but it hasn't been a success yet. I can't think of a scorched earth rebuild that was actually successful so far.
Josepho
i want the bartkowski thread back
Name 5 teams worse than us. I don't exactly like what's going on here, but we will land a good player in the draft.
Hit the post
I have your gold medal Zippy!
Captain Bowie
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Exactly this. I could have lived with it for 2 less years. It's funny, there seemed to be 2 groups that every decent player that signed today fall into. Eriksson is in the larger of the two, and the more worrisome of the two. Lead by Lucic, also uncluding Ladd, Okposo, Nielsen, Reimer, Helm. I don't know why anyone today would want to give a player in, or close to their 30's such a long contract. No one not a true superstar or over the age of 25 should be getting deals 6 years or longer. It's insane. You could throw in bottom 6 players like Weise, Martin, Schlemko into that mix as well, getting 4 year deals.
On the other side, includes Brouwer, I would have taken his deal in a second, maybe Boedker and Backes. 5 years as still too long for a guy his age, but they shaved a year or two compared to many others.
I can take a little solace in the fact that we are certainly not the only ones giving out this kind of contract. I just wish we didn't would have much rather have signed Brouwer or Boedker for the deals they got, despite Eriksson being a better player than both.
My hope is:
1) Try to be competitive each game, give the young players a lot of ice-time, and give the Sedins someone to really click with. They have set up the team to do this. Sedins and Eriksson should be really fun to watch, which is after all part of the purpose of having a hockey team, and there are some young players worth developing now.
2) If they are not in a position to make the playoffs come the deadline, try to move players like Hansen, Burrows, Miller, Dorsett, Sbisa, Etem, Larssen, and Edler for whatever you can, and trade no more picks away. It remains to be seen if they can do this - management has not proven itself either willing or able in this area thus far.
1) Try to be competitive each game, give the young players a lot of ice-time, and give the Sedins someone to really click with. They have set up the team to do this. Sedins and Eriksson should be really fun to watch, which is after all part of the purpose of having a hockey team, and there are some young players worth developing now.
2) If they are not in a position to make the playoffs come the deadline, try to move players like Hansen, Burrows, Miller, Dorsett, Sbisa, Etem, Larssen, and Edler for whatever you can, and trade no more picks away. It remains to be seen if they can do this - management has not proven itself either willing or able in this area thus far.
leaflover
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I thought Eriksson was a good signing for you guys but it doesn't seem like it went over very well with Canuck fans.
I wanted the Leafs to sign him because I see him as a good role model/mentor for the kids which he should provide for Vancouver's youth now. Plus he's still a very good player.
I wanted the Leafs to sign him because I see him as a good role model/mentor for the kids which he should provide for Vancouver's youth now. Plus he's still a very good player.
clunk
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But is it really? I mean, I guess it makes sense, but this team isn't nearly good enough to do anything in the playoffs... Has no depth... Has to rely on young guys like Baertschi, Hutton and Horvat to step up big time, has to rely on no injuries, etc... If they're truly trying to be 'competitive', it's quite the wrong decision... There is NOTHING redeeming about this team. Nothing. It has some redeeming younger players, but that's it
Canucks? Luck? Lol.
True, but the Sedins are the type of guys who can steal undeserved wins.. And you just know Miller likes to have his games where he looks like nothing is going to go past him... I really don't understand how this management thinks this team can actually be competitive???
Captain Bowie
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Most like the player, just don't see the good in signing him for so long. I doubt he will be playing anything close to a 6 mil player in 4-5 years, if at all.
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We are saying that we are doing this.
But we are actually doing this.
And fall back on saying this when it becomes clear that we've wasted yet another season without gaining or accomplishing anything.
the point of sports is to win a championship. the way to win is have a good team the way to have a good team is accumulate valuable assets the way to accumulate valuable assets is not tank and have to trade the best lw in the league for scraps
mccann was played in the nhl and swapped for gudbranson. cant handle these gains silly wabit trades are for gms
Olli Juolevi
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Why is this fan base so eager to settle for mediocre hockey for 46 years?
Anybody but a blind canucks homer knows this team needs to rebuild through the draft. This signing only prolongs the enivitable suffering of this team. Just tank for 4-5 years, draft those top end forwards and then start sheltering them with signings like this.
Until we have the #1C and #1LW we can't do these signings. STOP the madness that are 1st and 2nd round exits. I'm sick and tired of mediocre hockey.
Anybody but a blind canucks homer knows this team needs to rebuild through the draft. This signing only prolongs the enivitable suffering of this team. Just tank for 4-5 years, draft those top end forwards and then start sheltering them with signings like this.
Until we have the #1C and #1LW we can't do these signings. STOP the madness that are 1st and 2nd round exits. I'm sick and tired of mediocre hockey.
Captain Bowie
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What exactly makes you think this is the case?? Seems most are unhappy about the signing for exactly the reasons you outlined.
Yeah, it's been 4 years since we won a Presidents Trophy and 5 since we went to the finals. We've suffered enough.
Olli Juolevi
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I'm just flustered, the comment wasn't directed at HFCanucks just the fans that don't embrace what a rebuild means for the franchise.
NuxFan09
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My thought on this signing is, if management was bound and determined to get one of the big names in free agency, it might as well have been Okposo or Eriksson. These are the two players that I feel can at least make a good offensive impact.
We can piss and moan all we want, but we knew Benning was going to spend some money. At least it was on Loui Eriksson.
We can piss and moan all we want, but we knew Benning was going to spend some money. At least it was on Loui Eriksson.
Shareefruck
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The only way to reset and effectively build a solid team is throught he draft, one way or another.
The biggest problem we have right now is that there is a massive middle ground between a scorched earth rebuild and whatever the hell you call what we are doing right now, which isn't a rebuild at all. They're actually trading picks and prospects away for low value assets that are simultaneously unlikely to show further significant growth yet also isn't entirely ready to help a team compete.
It's in many ways worse than a retool on the fly or a slow transitional rebuild, which is what they were originally selling.
The biggest problem we have right now is that there is a massive middle ground between a scorched earth rebuild and whatever the hell you call what we are doing right now, which isn't a rebuild at all. They're actually trading picks and prospects away for low value assets that are simultaneously unlikely to show further significant growth yet also isn't entirely ready to help a team compete.
It's in many ways worse than a retool on the fly or a slow transitional rebuild, which is what they were originally selling.
Exactly! I can question the length of this signing, but not because we have been watching mediocre hockey for 46 years. The Canucks have had an incredible run. No, it has not resulted in a Cup, and that stinks, but we have watched a sustained period of excellent hockey.
Now we are going to be bad for a little while, and while the Eriksson signing doesn't exactly scream rebuild, the Canucks also didn't absolutely blow their wad today, and they picked up a fair amount of Utica depth as well. We don't want to create a sustained period of morale-killing awfulness, as the Oilers have done for the last several decades, because that will wreck our young players.
Olli Juolevi
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The Presidents trophy means nothing and you know that. I distinctly remember losing the 2011 finals but what does that have to do with the current product on the ice??? Is the current product on the ice not mediocre???
Has the product on the ice in the past not been mediocre???
Been watching since 1981. I know from mediocre. This last year was awful, and the Torts year blew. Aside from that, I have not been watching mediocre hockey for some time. This year we will not be good, but there will be some entertainment, and hopefully some growth amongst our young players. Hopefully the Sedins and Eriksson will also be able to mentor some of these guys, and help them to be competitive nightly.
And then hopefully we trade a bunch of guys at the deadline for picks.
NuxFan09
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People are freaking out about finishing in no man's land for no reason. The Canucks just finished in the bottom 3 last season. Are they really that much better than last year? Signing Eriksson and a few AHL guys doesn't suddenly make the Canucks a playoff bubble team. Think about it.
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