Confirmed with Link: Canucks sign F Jason Dickinson to 3-Year, $7.95M Deal ($2.65M AAV)

[wonton15]

3 points in 22 games and looking like an average 4th liner. Can't stick it on the 3rd line.

Benning has done it again.

 

[likash]

Worse contract than Tim Schaller and 1 year longer. He also makes 800k more per year. Another "home run" by Dim.

 

[Nucker101]

He went from riding shotgun with Jamie Benn (who took faceoffs) and Denis Gurianov and producing underwhelming results to playing with worse linemates.

Not exactly shocking that his offense has taken a step back and the coach doesn’t trust him as a full time center.

Maybe Arizona will come calling asking for another draft pick to take him on…

 

[F A N]

Worse contract than Tim Schaller and 1 year longer. He also makes 800k more per year. Another "home run" by Dim.

While Dickinson's performance has surely been disappointing, statistically he has arguably been the best forward defensively 5 v 5. For that contract you would hope he offers a bit more offensive production for sure.

I still think Dickinson will be fine. In previous years when we had 2 lines that could actually score, our 3rd line was a problem, especially defensively. This year, our top 2 lines have trouble scoring so the fact that Dickinson doesn't do anything offensively makes him look like a poor fit. On a better team where the top 2 line are scoring, I think Dickinson will look a lot better as he does seem to be able to suppress shots and scoring chances against.

 

[Scorvat]

Worse contract than Tim Schaller and 1 year longer. He also makes 800k more per year. Another "home run" by Dim.

this post just reminded me that Schaller somehow made 1.9M and was signed for 2 years

Just how? This is going to be thing we are going to do when we look back at the Jimbo era. Remember some random scrub and then get reminded of the insane contract they got

 

[Gstank]

I dont mind Dickerson at all. He is a low event players so will always get targeted by fans who just look for production to justify his contract. Most of his value will be allowing players like Garland and Hoglander to force on offense and not worry so much about the defensive side of the puck while putting up modest offensive numbers

 

[Gstank]

3 points in 22 games and looking like an average 4th liner. Can't stick it on the 3rd line.

Benning has done it again.

Petey has 3 even strength points all season at 7.35mill, just saying

 

[VanJack]

Jimbo does it again.....a third rounder for Dickinson and then a three-year contract at $2.65m a season....but three points in 22 basically spells 'replacement' level.

I can't believe that either the departed MacEwen or Gadjovich couldn't have matched that at somewhere around the league minimum. But I guess losing draft picks in bad trades is a theme we've seen repeated over and over again over eight years.

 

[VanillaCoke]

He's not better than tim Schaller and more expensive hahahaha dimjim the talent whisperer

 

[Hit the post]

Dickinson’s lack of points though isn’t THE issue. It’s just that he’s horrible as a checking center. But we all knew that was likely to be BEFORE given that he wasn’t used as one in Dallas. And here we are, still no strong defensive center on the team.

 

[Bojack Horvatman]

I don't mind Dickinson. Dickinson making 1.5m or less has value as a low event 4th liner. The problem isn't with Dickinson, it's that it's example who's even counting anymore of Jim Benning overvaluing and overpaying a player.

 

[MS]

I don't mind Dickinson. Dickinson making 1.5m or less has value as a low event 4th liner. The problem isn't with Dickinson, it's that it's example who's even counting anymore of Jim Benning overvaluing and overpaying a player.

Yup. If he was at half his salary and we’d developed him or signed him as a UFA he’s a totally useful low-event bottom-6 winger who you could use at C in an injury crunch. He’s better than Schaller - people saying that are going overboard or have forgotten how bad Schaller was.

Paying a high draft pick for the right to pay him $2.7 million is … oof.

 

[canuckking1]

I don't even think Jason is better than Gravaoc tbh

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Not sure what the problem is. He's fine as a defensive 3rd/4th liner who cares about the points he puts up. This would not even be talked about if our first two lines could score a goal.

 

[God]

At this point, with the entire team underachieving save for a few, I think I'm willing to give most of the players (including Dickinson) the benefit of the doubt given a new coaching staff. Except for Chiasson.

 

[RobertKron]

Not sure what the problem is. He's fine as a defensive 3rd/4th liner who cares about the points he puts up. This would not even be talked about if our first two lines could score a goal.

Yeah, if the first two lines could score nobody would even notice that the guy they brought in and paid to be their 3C is going sub-40% on face-offs and on pace for 11 points. That's absolutely normal and fine.

 

[VanJack]

At the time, I really bought into the idea that Stars GM Jim Nill traded Dickinson for a draft pick because they were convinced they'd lose him in the expansion draft for nothing.

But I'm beginning to think the opposite might have been true....Stars were convinced that he wasn't going to get claimed and didn't want to pay him as an impending RFA. So up steps Jimbo with the offer of another draft pick and the Stars were happy to oblige.

What is kinda depressing is that Benning seems to double down on these mistakes. The sends valuable 2nd-4th rounders out the door and even after the guy is far less than advertised, he signs him to a contract extension anyway. We've seen it with a long list of guys.

Player agents must be convinced by now that Benning is the equivalent of Santa's helper.

 

[Hit the post]

Not sure what the problem is. He's fine as a defensive 3rd/4th liner who cares about the points he puts up. This would not even be talked about if our first two lines could score a goal.

I’d rather have committed the 2+ million in cap space to an actual center. Maybe if we had a strong defensive center, we wouldn’t need to score as many goals.

 

[M2Beezy]

He's not better than tim Schaller and more expensive hahahaha dimjim the talent whisperer

Yeah but inflation since the Schaller contract. So balances out. And 3 is the new 2. So trading a high 3rd and then overpaying Dickinson made sense at the time

 

[4Twenty]

I would have a better idea if I saw him play as a Canuck in a competitive game. Maybe end of pre-season so I can see potential linemates. He's good for 15-20 goals though I bet by end of 82 games.

He might not hit 20 goals in the totality of this deal.

 

[F A N]

At the time, I really bought into the idea that Stars GM Jim Nill traded Dickinson for a draft pick because they were convinced they'd lose him in the expansion draft for nothing.

But I'm beginning to think the opposite might have been true....Stars were convinced that he wasn't going to get claimed and didn't want to pay him as an impending RFA. So up steps Jimbo with the offer of another draft pick and the Stars were happy to oblige.

It makes little difference whether Dallas is convinced that Dickinson would be picked or they don't want to pay him what he can get as an RFA. It doesn't change the fact that the player had trade value.

A 3rd round pick for Dickinson was fair value.

 

[MS]

It makes little difference whether Dallas is convinced that Dickinson would be picked or they don't want to pay him what he can get as an RFA. It doesn't change the fact that the player had trade value.

A 3rd round pick for Dickinson was fair value.

You aren't connecting the contract situation to the asset value when asset value is intrinsically connected to the contract.

If Jason Dickinson was signed for 2 more years at $1.8/year, a 3rd round pick would have been fair value.

Paying a 3rd round pick for a RFA that then requires a $1 million overpayment to sign is not fair value.

 

[Raistlin]

uhh.... he wasnt signed and rostered for his point totals, he was an advanced stats darling on the 5on5 defensive side of things. And hes not bad on that front considering how the rest of his team are in shambles. My beef with him is how he underperformed on the PK side of things. He is not the team's biggest problem.

 

[F A N]

You aren't connecting the contract situation to the asset value when asset value is intrinsically connected to the contract.

If Jason Dickinson was signed for 2 more years at $1.8/year, a 3rd round pick would have been fair value.

Paying a 3rd round pick for a RFA that then requires a $1 million overpayment to sign is not fair value.

I know that you like to scream overpayment with 90+% of the contracts signed but it is fair value when Dickinson was signed to a contract that everybody expected including Dallas fans.

 

[MS]

uhh.... he wasnt signed and rostered for his point totals, he was an advanced stats darling on the 5on5 defensive side of things. And hes not bad on that front considering how the rest of his team are in shambles. My beef with him is how he underperformed on the PK side of things. He is not the team's biggest problem.

The problem is that *everyone* on Dallas was an advanced stat darling in terms of 5-on-5 defense. A 37 y/o Joe Pavelski was apparently suddenly the best defensive forward in the NHL if you take those metrics at face value.

He's a solid low-event defensive winger but those numbers had a pile of noise and situational effect in them.