Confirmed with Link: Canucks sign D Tyler Myers to 5-Year, $30m Deal ($6m AAV)

[alternate]

Because - shockingly - people might align their expectations for a player to his cap hit?

Ben Hutton did a solid job as a mid-pairing guy last year but apparently $4.4 million was way too much for him. When they pay Myers $6 million, what does that say about their expectations?

Well of course there is context behind every signing, such as being the top rh dman available for nothing but cap space.

You are smarter than most...expectations are fine, but --any antiBenning feelings aside-- are you really expecting that Myers was brought in to be a top pairing guy?

 

[MS]

Well of course there is context behind every signing, such as being the top rh dman available for nothing but cap space.

You are smarter than most...expectations are fine, but --any antiBenning feelings aside-- are you really expecting that Myers was brought in to be a top pairing guy?

I strongly suspect they view him that way, yes.

We’ll find out but I’d bet Myers is playing 23-25 minutes/game off the rattle next year.

 

[WonderTwinsUnite]

Well of course there is context behind every signing, such as being the top rh dman available for nothing but cap space.

You are smarter than most...expectations are fine, but --any antiBenning feelings aside-- are you really expecting that Myers was brought in to be a top pairing guy?

That's what he's being paid like, so yes. If not, then don't pay him that much. And just because he's the only right-handed D on the market doesn't mean you have to sign him to a bad contract.

 

[Warh1ppy]

Another day another

"world is ending Benning is terrible" thread with zero substance but full of conjecture and stories

On HF

Carry on, I am off to see the other signings made today and question how the hell Benning did terribly compared to what other GMs have done *cough Bobs for $10 million*

 

[Fire Benning]

That Benning quote seriously sounds like what he was saying after the original Gudbranson trade.

 

[Nuckles]

Another day another

"world is ending Benning is terrible" thread with zero substance but full of conjecture and stories

On HF

Carry on, I am off to see the other signings made today and question how the hell Benning did terribly compared to what other GMs have done *cough Bobs for $10 million*

Oh, I guess other GMs making terrible moves excuses Benning from making terrible moves. What a world we live in.

 

[Melvin]

You know it's a quality deal when one of the positives about it is that it can be exposed to Seattle.

 

[Diamonddog01]

Another day another

"world is ending Benning is terrible" thread with zero substance but full of conjecture and stories

On HF

Carry on, I am off to see the other signings made today and question how the hell Benning did terribly compared to what other GMs have done *cough Bobs for $10 million*

 

[Addison Rae]

Another day another

"world is ending Benning is terrible" thread with zero substance but full of conjecture and stories

On HF

Carry on, I am off to see the other signings made today and question how the hell Benning did terribly compared to what other GMs have done *cough Bobs for $10 million*

I just read your posts about the Gudbranson extension.

That’s all I have to say, how can you even show your face here?

 

[Fire Benning]

Carry on, I am off to see the other signings made today and question how the hell Benning did terribly compared to what other GMs have done *cough Bobs for $10 million*

Other teams signing stupid contracts doesn't excuse the Canucks doing the same.

 

[RandV]

Are the details of the contract out? What's up on Cap Friendly right now is just out of whack:

Total Salary
19-20 - $7M
20-21 - $9.5M
21-22 - $2M
22-23 - $9.5M
23-24 - $2M

That can't be right can it? I thought under the CBA the lowest salary in a year cant be less than half of the highest salary?

 

[alternate]

I strongly suspect they view him that way, yes.

We’ll find out but I’d bet Myers is playing 23-25 minutes/game off the rattle next year.

Fair enough, and I hope you are wrong. My point really is that if Myers isn't used as a top 2, and does fine in a 2nd pairing or even 3rd (2b) pairing, improves our transition, gets some 5v5 points, provides versatility on the PP and keeps his head above water while not seeing top line matchups, that some will still be complaining because he's not the "top pairing guy he's paid to be."

For what it's worth, I don't put you in that category, and feel your expectations are based more on how you think the team is going deploy him. I'm more talking about unrealistic expectations that need to be met to justify the contract.

That's what he's being paid like, so yes. If not, then don't pay him that much. And just because he's the only right-handed D on the market doesn't mean you have to sign him to a bad contract.

Like this guy. Clearly if he isn't at minimum a rh Edler, this guy will be complaining, irregardless of how Myers actually performs in a role that's not top pairing. Can't wait, bub!

 

[Warh1ppy]

Oh, I guess other GMs making terrible moves excuses Benning from making terrible moves. What a world we live in.

I just read your posts about the Gudbranson extension.

That’s all I have to say, how can you even show your face here?

I can show my face here because I am a shining beacon of sanity on a forum full of antagonistic whiners bent on effectively defecating on every move this team makes regardless of who the GM is or the signing made.

Do carry on. It's safer here for you.

I love this signing. I think it's great. Either he works out or rides the LTI train and gives us cap space. At days end, we're not the Oilers, we're not the Flames and they're more stable over there than some of you are here. Speaks volumes gents. Happy Canada Day

 

[Blue and Green]

Are the details of the contract out? What's up on Cap Friendly right now is just out of whack:

Total Salary
19-20 - $7M
20-21 - $9.5M
21-22 - $2M
22-23 - $9.5M
23-24 - $2M

That can't be right can it? I thought under the CBA the lowest salary in a year cant be less than half of the highest salary?

I believe CapFriendly has placed the second and third signing bonuses a year too early.

 

[Seattle Totems]

If Myers is a third pairing guy making 6 million that's too much money. You can't build a winning team with the cap structured like that. End of debate.

 

[PetterssonSimp]

The signing bonus structure will forever hinder the Canucks being able to move this contract. The term and AAV are offset by this terrible structure. It doesn’t even matter if there isn’t a NMC for the expansion, no one is touching this contract and Dim continue to outbid himself

 

[crazychimp]

From what I've seen of Myers he isn't that bad of a player not a top pairing guy, good on the second pair. I think he improves our defense but the $ and term is too much for a guy like this. I'm not really that upset about it. The real contracts that just irk me are the two pylons we have in Sutter and Eriksson.

One question I do have is what type of deal would have been fair for Myers, what would other teams offer this guy? Maybe a 4.5 x 3 or 4 yrs?

 

[Seattle Totems]

I can show my face here because I am a shining beacon of sanity on a forum full of antagonistic whiners bent on effectively defecating on every move this team makes regardless of who the GM is or the signing made.

Do carry on. It's safer here for you.

I love this signing. I think it's great. Either he works out or rides the LTI train and gives us cap space. At days end, we're not the Oilers, we're not the Flames and they're more stable over there than some of you are here. Speaks volumes gents. Happy Canada Day

You love a signing that negatively affects the Canucks ability to build a winning team. Sounds like you're uninformed. Speaks volumes indeed.

 

[Melvin]

Are the details of the contract out? What's up on Cap Friendly right now is just out of whack:

Total Salary
19-20 - $7M
20-21 - $9.5M
21-22 - $2M
22-23 - $9.5M
23-24 - $2M

That can't be right can it? I thought under the CBA the lowest salary in a year cant be less than half of the highest salary?

On top of that, it can't vary in adjacent years by more than 35% of the salary on year 1. So it can't drop from 9.5 to 2, wtf. That's a drop of more than 100% of the initial salary!

 

[Addison Rae]

I can show my face here because I am a shining beacon of sanity on a forum full of antagonistic whiners bent on effectively defecating on every move this team makes regardless of who the GM is or the signing made.

Do carry on. It's safer here for you.

I love this signing. I think it's great. Either he works out or rides the LTI train and gives us cap space. At days end, we're not the Oilers, we're not the Flames and they're more stable over there than some of you are here. Speaks volumes gents. Happy Canada Day

This is what you said about the Gudbranson signing, rinse and repeat the same crap.

"3 years at $4 million

With no NMC or NTC.

Had it been 4 years it would have averaged out to about $3.65 million maybe $3.75 million.

With a lack of RHD on the current roster and in the organization this is far from a terrible signing

But I am sure that won't stop the histrionics and overly dramatic statements about how and why it's terrible that Benning couldn't even throw him out the door for a measly 3rd.

I applaud this signing because it's actually not bad."

 

[TruKnyte]

You're assuming he knows how to read this.

 

[Jovofan]

This signing could've been a lot worse. The term is decent, the cap hit is better than expected, a RH shot who can play on the PP is a nice get. I'm okay with this, we've been needing an infusion of offense from our blueline for a while now and with Myers and a full season from Hughes that should give us a nice spark. As Benning moves are concerned this one isn't among his worst IMO.

 

[RandV]

On top of that, it can't vary in adjacent years by more than 35% of the salary on year 1. So it can't drop from 9.5 to 2, wtf. That's a drop of more than 100% of the initial salary!

Yeah I think Blue and Green has the answer above, looks like a typo/misplacement by cap friendly putting the signing bonuses of 3/5 into the base salary of 2/4. Just looks odd because usually they're right on the money.

 

[timw33]

This signing could've been a lot worse.

Only based on what people we're speculating. In isolation this is an awful move and Myers plays like a $3.5MM #4/5 d-man.

 

[Seattle Totems]

You wouldn’t offer Myers $1 million on a one year deal?

Tyler Myers is not a player that I would target. I'm being realistic here. Your hypothetical scenario is not.