Peter Griffin
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Weegar plays the left side, he wouldn’t block Willander at all.
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Bourne Endeavor
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If we did acquire Weegar somehow, I'd be half tempted to run both him and Hughes on PP1. I know that's huge rarity nowadays but the biggest reason our powerplay collapsed last season was due to its predictability. Doing something like that, thus allowing Hughes to play more of a rover role would be exact opposite of predictable.
Of course, this is all hypothetical seeing as I don't see any way we could fit Weegar under the cap without double retention and that plus the acquisition itself would cost a ton. There's no shot we'd get Weegar without Lekk or Willander going the other way.
Well Andersson played mostly alongside Weegar and Andersson struggled. Weegar is superior defensively and both the eye test and stats support this. The previous year Andersson was better with Weegar than Hanifin.
In terms of fit, we also have Willander (if he's not traded) that we hope to be part of the future.
I think whatever works best for the team so I'm not sure about whether it makes sense to have your 2nd best Dman anchor his own pairing (if he plays on the opposite side of the team's best Dman and they have chemistry together). Certainly there are quite a few Cup winners who have paired their two best Dmen together. Florida won pairing their two best defensemen together. So did Colorado.
The point is that Weegar is better and more consistent than Andersson, and has shown he can play well with different defensemen. Hughes is capable of anchoring his own pairing but he won the Norris playing alongside Hronek. So if you're talking about fit, Weegar is basically plug and play and you can keep Hughes and Hronek together.
Didn’t pay that much to the Flames last season so not sure if Weegar was better or Andersson. But yeah I am just looking at pure stats and it looks like Andersson has always been the higher min d.
but honestly I prefer M Petterson, seems like his profile is closer to the type of guys they normally like. Big ass 2 way D.
Hughes - Hronek
Petterson - Desharnais
Soucy - Myers
Peter Griffin
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Yes, but primarily he’s an LD with a RH’ed shot, an anomaly. Oddly enough, he’d probably be a fantastic partner for Willander rather than blocking him.
Okay... so you admittedly don't know if Weegar is better so how do you know if Andersson makes more sense? Being a higher minute Dman doesn't mean much. Myers has routinely logged ~21 minutes or more a game. Gudbranson has logged a lot of minutes in his career. What did you think of them over the years? Weegar is also a RHD who can play both sides.
I like M. Pettersson too if he's available. But while M. Petey is 2 years younger and will likely be cheaper, Weegar is overall better.
Just looking at it from the perspective of him being a natural RHD, lower contract AAV, younger, bigger and more of a defensive anchor guy. Sounds like exactly the type of player we've wanting as a Quinn partner forever.
With Anderssson, you could ice something like this.
Hughes - Andersson
??? - Hronek
or
Hughes - Hronek
??? - Andersson.
and in either case, Hronek and Andersson would both be eating 20+ minutes. I think if you have Weegar behind Quinn, realistically there is only going to be like 18M for the next D and it feels like a waste to spend 6.x M for a guy to play so little. But if Weegar is just as good on the right side, then maybe it makes sense but from what i've read about him, it seems like Weegar doesn't play on the right side even though he is right handed.
And you're basing this on what? The past two seasons, Weegar has been the better defenseman. His defensive metrics the past two seasons also suggest that he's been superior defensively. Andersson has not been a defensive anchor and is coming off a season where he was exposed a bit (granted he was playing on a bad team with lineup changes).
Weegar can play on both side which is a huge plus on this team.
Again, the point is that Weegar is currently the superior defenseman, can play on both sides, and is locked to a relatively friendly contract for a defenseman of his calibre. For a team whose window is perceived to be over the next 2-3 years I think you absolutely target the better defenseman if given a choice.
Younger players ready to play in the NHL do not get "blocked". That is so very rarely a concern. When "blocking" is mentioned it is for guys like Linden Vey where it quickly becomes obvious they weren't being blocked but simply weren't good enough.
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He had a pretty bad accident on his scooter in early 2023 that probably affected him most of last season as well. Most Flames fans said he wasn’t the same. Will be interesting to see if it’s a long term thing or he’s fully recovered.
Honestly don’t feel THAT strongly about this. Like I said, I am looking at this through the the player profile perspective and it seems like you watch more Flames games and you have more knowledge around Andersson and Weegar.
Also don’t think the Flames would trade either to us unless we overpay like crazy. Realistically any top D target would be from the east.
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Diamonddog01
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Yeah. Which indicates it was most likely an injury. Not my fav player on the team but he's looked good to start the season.
PuckMunchkin
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I think this joke has run its course and at this point you’re spamming threads with it.
Hronek has been very good to start off the year IMO.
His defensive reads have been top tier this season.
His defensive reads have been top tier this season.
