Rumor: Canucks on the verge of signing Elias Pettersson for eight years!

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Britton

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I think Petey is just a weird dude and was not prepared for the shit storm surrounding his contract status, and legitimately thought everyone would just respect that he was waiting to summer to negotiate. With it reaching a fever pitch I think he probably finally realized that he needs to just sign if he actually wants to be here long term which now it seems he does.
 

Ernie

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Colour me surprised he'd change tack mid-season and re-engage. Not sure what could have changed his mind, but not complaining.

Interesting rumours around that other teams were calling on his trade availability, wonder if Rutherford was gauging his value behind the scenes and that may have had something to do with it.

I really wonder whether the Canucks were leaking info in order to plant a seed of doubt in his mind that there was a possibility he could be traded if the right deal came along.
 

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These players were signed to contracts with AAVs around 13% of the cap at the time, which is in line with most top players. Marian Hossa signed his 1 year deal with Detroit at a 7.45M AAV, which was 13.14% of the cap at the time. Scott Gomez's contract at 7.35M AAV was a shocking 14.63% of the cap. For reference, Tavares's deal was 13.84%, and Nylander's new deal is 13.77%.

12M for Petey would be 14.37%, which isn't outrageous at all.

Also I just looked up the Sedins' deal when Gillis was first hired, and it was 10.74% of the cap. They definitely did us a solid with that massive discount. JTM's cap hit is 9.70%, which is also kind of insane given how he's played.

Actually is 13.7% if you use next year's expected cap, which is when his contract would kick in.

The Canucks made the right bet on the right player with JTM.

In my dreams the Canucks have a deal for Guentzel on the table, and they present a case to Pettersson to take a little less so they can have him, Guentzel, and Hronek all under contract to start next season.
 

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These players were signed to contracts with AAVs around 13% of the cap at the time, which is in line with most top players. Marian Hossa signed his 1 year deal with Detroit at a 7.45M AAV, which was 13.14% of the cap at the time. Scott Gomez's contract at 7.35M AAV was a shocking 14.63% of the cap. For reference, Tavares's deal was 13.84%, and Nylander's new deal is 13.77%.

12M for Petey would be 14.37%, which isn't outrageous at all.

Also I just looked up the Sedins' deal when Gillis was first hired, and it was 10.74% of the cap. They definitely did us a solid with that massive discount. JTM's cap hit is 9.70%, which is also kind of insane given how he's played.

If you consider next year's cap, $12M is 13.7%. $12.5M is 14.2%.
 
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Jerry the great

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I really wonder whether the Canucks were leaking info in order to plant a seed of doubt in his mind that there was a possibility he could be traded if the right deal came along.
i think they absolutely created the smoke/noise.
 

BenningHurtsMySoul

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Not signed yet, but it least it brings an end to all of the fear mongering and idle speculation..He wants to play for the Canucks.

I never got into most of that 'what if' chat, it was basically, what happens, happens..Generally though, I thought with the large Swedish contingent here (notably the GM), and the history of Swedish players here ..our odds were good.

There's no question he wanted to see how this season played out first..If the season had gone tits up at the start, he could've been looking elsewhere after his current contract....He wants to win, and the GM here, is giving him a good opportunity to do it.

All I can say is - thank the lawd this team turned it around in such spectacular fashion, or he may have followed through on playing for a winner.

i think they absolutely created the smoke/noise.

JR wasn't born yesterday. Odds are he was one step ahead of Pettersson's camp at every turn. Every play has a deeper meaning.
 
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12 million is the bar

anything less and I'm living my life to its fullest, loving harder than ever before, everybody around me will be impacted by my positivity
anything more and I'm so incredible disappointed I will lose focus and my life will take a direct hit and I will prolly end up on east Hastings
The perfect Fan!
 

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I hope he signs at 8-9 mil for 8yrs.
This will make his performance less forced. If he takes12, he will be expected to performed accordingly.

It will also help with signing hronek, joshua snd others.
 

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IMO all Seravalli did was use common sense to figure out that the team HAS to know very soon what EP is doing before the TDL, he has already been hearing that the Canucks had the 8yr 12 mil contract since summer and he filled in from there.

He didn't say anything really at all.

A deal sometime maybe? What the hell does that mean?
Click bait.

Really playing up the frantic fans, playing them like a violin.
 

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If the contract starts with 12 "Which I don't mind but" then I am hoping that Pettersson takes a page out of Miller's book and takes his game to another level. Yes I know Petey is on the verge of having back to back 100 point seasons, that is indeed amazing. I just want to see a more engaged Pettersson after the contract is signed and out of mind. This year's Pettersson is quite a bit different from last year's, Petey seems more of a passenger this season rather than a play driver. I would like to see him put in the full effort on a nightly basis, rather than once every third game. Pettersson is easily one of the most talented players in the game no doubt about it, I just find myself questioning his intensity this season. Hopefully when everything is signed and done Petey can focus on just playing hockey. Overall I am just excited to hear this debacle coming to an end, and extremely happy and honored to be watching Pettersson as a Canuck. Especially if it's for a other 8 years.

Let's get er done baby.
Seems like everytime Petey has a "distraction" with contract negotiations, his play kind of drop a level. The fact that he is pacing 100pts and is still considered not playing up to his potential, shows how elite of a talent he is. I'm confident once his contract is signed, he can really focus on hockey and get back to last season's level, or maybe even higher.
 

theguardianII

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Seems like everytime Petey has a "distraction" with contract negotiations, his play kind of drop a level. The fact that he is pacing 100pts and is still considered not playing up to his potential, shows how elite of a talent he is. I'm confident once his contract is signed, he can really focus on hockey and get back to last season's level, or maybe even higher.
What are you referring to? Last contract he had his best season to that date. This year will be better than last, he is already at 75 points with 21 game left.

Nobody else in the industry reports that there is any traction to the story.

They carry the story only because Seravalli has a good reputation.
 

ephmrl

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What are you referring to? Last contract he had his best season to that date. This year will be better than last, he is already at 75 points with 21 game left.

Nobody else in the industry reports that there is any traction to the story.

They carry the story only because Seravalli has a good reputation.
Dhaliwal, Friedman and Dreger have all talked about it, and given different information than what Seravalli initially provided. Clearly this isn’t just a baseless rumor, but I think you know that.
 

theguardianII

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That's a risky game to play. It could've totally backfired and the heat/spotlight could've turned Petey off from extending here.
Listen to the summer interview.
Read IMAC's interview

There is not one story anywhere where EP states he wants to stay here over the last 7 years, not one.

But there are 4 or 5 where he says he wants to wait to see where the team is going, that he wants to play on a winning, not just one year, team, play in the playoffs and/or the cup.

He doesn't live here in the off season.

So there is no risk at all, just a roll of the dice and maybe a possibility he might feel pressured enough into signing. Canucks will have a problem if he says yes but only to a very short term because the team is cap compromised for the next 4/5 years with buyouts and bad timing of contract expirations.

If they did do this it could also be because they have to work on the next few years and are stuck until he decides. So they need a decision or basically they are saying the time has past and they will move on.

There is one thing about Rutherford, he isn't a guy to wait half a decade to see what might happen. He will make the trade and then build around what he knows he has for the next few years.
 

theguardianII

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Dhaliwal, Friedman and Dreger have all talked about it, and given different information than what Seravalli initially provided. Clearly this isn’t just a baseless rumor, but I think you know that.
Dhaliwal and the others have been talking about the summer offer too. They are talking about that none have heard anything but Seravalli has good sources and he had the Mikheyev knee was reported by him weeks before the surgery.
Although he didn't need a source, just had to see the injury happen to have a really good guess what was damaged combined with the recovery time and then how he skated. The knee brace may have been a hint as well. He who makes the brace would have to know about the injury.
 

ephmrl

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Listen to the summer interview.
Read IMAC's interview

There is not one story anywhere where EP states he wants to stay here over the last 7 years, not one.

But there are 4 or 5 where he says he wants to wait to see where the team is going, that he wants to play on a winning, not just one year, team, play in the playoffs and/or the cup.

He doesn't live here in the off season.

So there is no risk at all, just a roll of the dice and maybe a possibility he might feel pressured enough into signing. Canucks will have a problem if he says yes but only to a very short term because the team is cap compromised for the next 4/5 years with buyouts and bad timing of contract expirations.

If they did do this it could also be because they have to work on the next few years and are stuck until he decides. So they need a decision or basically they are saying the time has past and they will move on.

There is one thing about Rutherford, he isn't a guy to wait half a decade to see what might happen. He will make the trade and then build around what he knows he has for the next few years.

Here’s Petey saying he loves Vancouver and is open in signing long-term from last years After Hours.

Also, I don’t think there’s a single non-local Canuck on the roster who lives in Vancouver in the off season. If that was a concern then Miller wouldn’t have signed here long term since he lives in Pittsburgh in the summer.
 
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