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Some Important Off-Season Dates

Buyout Period: June 27th, evening; players without NMCs must be placed on unconditional waivers 24 hours prior (another buyout period opens if a team has a player file for arbitration). This buyout period ends June 30th. 8:00pm.
Team-Elected Arbitration: June 26th, evening
NHL Awards: June 27th
Draft Day 01: June 28th
Draft Day 02: June 29th
Qualifying Offer Date: June 30th
8-Year Contract Deadline: June 30th, 9pm PST
Free Agency Opens: July 1st, 9am PST
Summer Development Camp: July 1st-4th
Player-Elected Arbitration: July 5th
Young Stars Classic Tournament: Sep. 13th-16th

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[TruGr1t]

We are stacked with PK guys.

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

Would have done that Walker deal in a heartbeat over Vinny.

Not a real great off season. This team is worse off so far.

What is the Walker deal I can’t find it.

 

[Russian_fanatic]

What a disaster free agency...

We had $18 million to gain some top 6 help, and improve the defense...

Our forwards got a little better, but our defense is so much worst. It's actually gross looking at our defense.

 

[Nuckles]

What is the Walker deal I can’t find it.

5 years, 3.6M AAV with Carolina

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807870506462597465

 

[Cogburn]

I think we are a bit worse compare to the team in April

But, the playoffs doesn’t start until next april

I usually appreciate the optimistic approach, but that just means more assets spent to recover from today. Heinen, Forbort and Sherwood I think are fine in isolation, but it feels like we haven't addressed any issues our roster had to end last season, and have no cap space to correct it with out trades, and spending more assets.

 

[arttk]

We lost Lindholm and Zadarov, and gained Desharnais, Heinen, Sherwood, Forbort and Debrusk.

For the same cap hit.

We lost Kuzmenko, two prospects, a first, a second, a third, a fourth, and a fifth round picks to acquire these rentals, not to mention paying another second to dump Mikheyev. I know we traded for rentals, and I haven't got a problem there, but the price we paid for these two rentals starkly contrasts to their replacements to me.

I got a number of replies blasting my last post, but I feel we have downgraded significantly here.

I think there is an assumption that we are going to be aggressive as hell in the trade market like after the season starts especially considering we are under the cap now and can accrue cap space.

We have more forwards that can play Tocchet’s forecheck system now so I think even if the individual players don’t compare as well, the team is probably better. Not sure about the D though.

 

[BenningHurtsMySoul]

I don't feel like we got better today.

 

[sting101]

Mantha-Miller-boeser
Tevo-petey-hoglander
Garland-blue-joshua
Pod-suter-sherwood

Hughes-hronek
Soucy-zadorov
Fobort-Myers

Demko
Silovs


Ezpz

Mantha is sloooowwww as hell and gets beat all over the ice Tuevo has become such a perimeter player. on top of that Debrusk has 36 ES goals to TTs 20 over the last 2 yrs. I dont think were looking for secondary assist guys vs players who can get to the inside in our top6. Mantha and Boeser would be something to watch?

Zadorov sure would have liked him but if you pay him that contract he absolutely has to be a reliable top4 20min a night guy and as great as he was short term playoffs he also has been reduced to 13-14 minutes and largely benched by the Flames the 2yrs leading to Vancouver due to how inconsistent and lazy he can play. I would have probably given him that deal as i like what he brings post season. Just a wall

Heinen Debrusk is better than Tuevo and Mantha i dont think they are at all what we want to complement our best players up front with so i would rather what PA has done vs your roster but it's just an opinion

 

[Cogburn]

What a disaster free agency...

We had $18 million to gain some top 6 help, and improve the defense...

Our forwards got a little better, but our defense is so much worst. It's actually gross looking at our defense.

Did they? I'd take Lindholm over Debrusk and Heinen every day of the week.

 

[Phrasing]

I usually appreciate the optimistic approach, but that just means more assets spent to recover from today. Heinen, Forbort and Sherwood I think are fine in isolation, but it feels like we haven't addressed any issues our roster had to end last season, and have no cap space to correct it with out trades, and spending more assets.

Exactly how I feel.

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

5 years, 3.6M AAV with Carolina

https://x.com/i/web/status/1807870506462597465

Thank you.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

What a disaster free agency...

We had $18 million to gain some top 6 help, and improve the defense...

Our forwards got a little better, but our defense is so much worst. It's actually gross looking at our defense.

Zadorov will be missed but he’s not THAT good

Forbort replace Cole and Desharnais replaces Zad’s physicality

 

[arttk]

I usually appreciate the optimistic approach, but that just means more assets spent to recover from today. Heinen, Forbort and Sherwood I think are fine in isolation, but it feels like we haven't addressed any issues our roster had to end last season, and have no cap space to correct it with out trades, and spending more assets.

We have cap, we are under the cap now and can accrue cap space.

 

[Jovofan]

How exactly is our D worse today than it was a year ago at this time? We have the same top 4 that we had a year ago the only casualty is Cole. People seemed to think our D was improved in July 2023 but now it sucks with the same personnel?

 

[Bonham]

That defense is ugly.

It is going to be frightening when the inevitable injuries start to hit.

They are essentially at the cap now. Not sure how they upgrade without a player like Garland going the other way.

Hughes and Hronek are going to be leaned on even moreso than this past season. They needed a top-four grade just as bad or worse than a top-six addition.

Not sure how to feel after today, but still lots of time left to assess.

 

[TruGr1t]

I usually appreciate the optimistic approach, but that just means more assets spent to recover from today. Heinen, Forbort and Sherwood I think are fine in isolation, but it feels like we haven't addressed any issues our roster had to end last season, and have no cap space to correct it with out trades, and spending more assets.

We’ve addressed everything possible at forward and probably meaningfully improved the PK. I agree the defense isn’t ideal, but it looks like a bunch of Tocchet/Foote guys. Allvin says they see upside Desharnais.

The forwards are extremely versatile, there are a lot of guys that can play all over the line-up.

 

[Billy Kvcmu]

I usually appreciate the optimistic approach, but that just means more assets spent to recover from today. Heinen, Forbort and Sherwood I think are fine in isolation, but it feels like we haven't addressed any issues our roster had to end last season, and have no cap space to correct it with out trades, and spending more assets.

Here’s how I look it

Team is trying to build an identity

And it’s “we are big, grindy and going to hurt yo

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

I usually appreciate the optimistic approach, but that just means more assets spent to recover from today. Heinen, Forbort and Sherwood I think are fine in isolation, but it feels like we haven't addressed any issues our roster had to end last season, and have no cap space to correct it with out trades, and spending more assets.

A lot went right last season. Team was healthy for the most part until the playoffs and lucked into a draw against an easy first round opponent.

Nothing today inspires me to even fathom another campaign like 2023-24. In fact, I am now so incredibly happy we have our 2025 pick as it could very well be a lottery pick if one of Miller, Demko or Hughes go down for an extended period. Just zero real depth.

 

[Hansen]

Moving out Mikheyev was a great move. Allocating half of the gained cap hit to Vincent Desharnais is not so great.

 

[Jovofan]

Gee Thanks TSN. We really appreciate carrying 15 seconds of Allvin's presser

 

[ameselare]

Did they? I'd take Lindholm over Debrusk and Heinen every day of the week.

Lindholm wants to play as a 1 or 2C. Those spots are taken here already. We'd have had to offer him stupid money for him to want to stay here.

 

[SelltheTeamFrancesco]

Still think we could grab Brodie for cheap, maybe later in the summer though.

 

[WTG]

I don't feel like we got better today.

Team will be much better if Pettersson returns to form.

 

[Cogburn]

I think there is an assumption that we are going to be aggressive as hell in the trade market like after the season starts especially considering we are under the cap now and can accrue cap space.

We have more forwards that can play Tocchet’s forecheck system now so I think even if the individual players don’t compare as well, the team is probably better. Not sure about the D though.

We are barely under the cap with a 23 player roster, depending on Silovs' contract.

I still don't see this as a reason to be optimistic though, our biggest acquisitions last year were straight up rentals, and I can't hold out hope that we have a way out of this without more rentals.

We had an opportunity to improve from last season, and I feel there was no plan B after the big fish that signed elsewhere.

I had no issues with Lafferty or Lindholm and they're play under Tocc's system, and they show up very well versus Heinen and Debrusk. Our D is as deep, but the downgrade from Zadorov to Forbort will be noticable. Desharnais is more a replacement to Cole, but neither of these two are a big improvement over who else is in our system already (Juulsen, Brisebois or Friedman).

Allvin has left us in a hole, here.

 

[timw33]

Our scoring depth 1-12 forward wise is absolutely upgraded with three really solid ES producers, with more upside to Debrusk than Laffery/Mikeyev on Petterssons wing and likely in a PP role of some sort.

Added more solid PKers too which should help us shed some PPGA over the course of a season.

D core the area of concern after Hronek Hughes we're essentially rolling two very solid third pairs instead of a true middle pair calibre without splitting up our top-2D. New additions are solid defensively but lack of breakout ability could spell trouble for overall team offence with Hughes off the ice.

Overall seeing the Canucks looking for short term cost certainty to get through the OEL buyout nasty years + Mik retention. Silver lining is that Forbort and Desharnais are 1 and 2 years term respectively and not super long term commitment. Dissappointing to not get that true middle pair RHD. Dissappointing to not get one of the tier 1 forwards with high end finish.