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[Hodgy]

The only way I see Willander move is in a package deal with a defenseman coming back that is ahead of him in development (ie. Dobson). I don't see them moving him unilaterally for a C unless someone insane is available. That being said, the package would have to be pretty sweet as that ELC has bonkers value.

I can see this, but it screws up cap allocation. We need cheap good defensemen to allow us to allocate more cap to our anemic forward group.

 

[Baby Pettersson]

Trading Pete (C) makes no sense at this point. We are locked in at D. Amazing bottom 6. What we need is top 6 players especially a C. So trading one of the best centres in the game who is young is going to accomplish what? If we are targeting another young C then why are we trading Pete? We won't win that trade. The Miller trade was different because we flipped assets for defence. But trading Pete makes no logical sense at this point.

 

[MS]

The Dobson rumours don't really make much sense.

We have Hughes/Hronek/Pettersson/Myers signed through 2027 (three more playoffs) as well as EP2 and Willander both very close. We don't need more D.

We're extremely thin at C and traded our troubled-but-best C for yet another D would be baffling. Or any assets for Dobson, really. And I like Dobson but our D looks really solid right now and we don't need to assign more cap space to the position or spend big assets doing it.

 

[Canucks LB]

The Dobson rumours don't really make much sense.

We have Hughes/Hronek/Pettersson/Myers signed through 2027 (three more playoffs) as well as EP2 and Willander both very close. We don't need more D.

We're extremely thin at C and traded our troubled-but-best C for yet another D would be baffling. Or any assets for Dobson, really. And I like Dobson but our D looks really solid right now and we don't need to assign more cap space to the position or spend big assets doing it.

It only makes sense if it’s a package deal with barzal and dobson for like petey and willander or something.

I would pass, we get the better players, but really hurt us with cap Space.

 

[Bobby9]

You develop DPetey enough so you can trade MP29 in 2-3 years.

You never trade young players. You develop them well enough so they can replace the older more expensive players

Create a real pipeline.

DPetey and Willander have to replace MP29 and Myers or even Hronek

 

[brock hughes007]

Kinda funny that with Juulsen out of the line up we start to win a few games...

 

[David Bruce Banner]

Our D has gone from a weakness to a strength. I think we're good to go there and don't need to be add Dobson. And I'm saying this as someone who has always thought highly of Dobson. In fact, I even wanted him over Hughes at the draft. That was a bad take.
Our forward core needs work though. Petey needs help and Debrusk is too streaky and Boeser has his ups and downs too (and has a good chance of being gone or overpaid by next year).
Lekk might be our Boeser replacement as soon as next year, but I think we still need to see what return Brock and our 1st might get, with the idea of picking up a younger scoring winger who's good on the forecheck... someone like Sherwood with better hands.

 

[theguardianII]

Think positives;

Hughes being out has allowed the discovery of EPD on defence and Hronek to take a step up.
The defence as a whole to become quite tight.
The forwards to work the puck through the neutral zone and more offensive touches in the OZone.

The break will give Demko more time to sit and work on whatever is his problem now (some seem to think they know and it could be serious, Hrudey).

The team can play without Hughes and EP40. 11.6 could be easily replaced by a 2.2 with the same of better results.

Time off for good behaviour now, two weeks.

I wonder if the team can dictate what the players are allowed to do?
Skiing? That could be an issue if there is an injury, those usually will be knee's.

 

[Orr4Norris]

The Dobson rumours don't really make much sense.

We have Hughes/Hronek/Pettersson/Myers signed through 2027 (three more playoffs) as well as EP2 and Willander both very close. We don't need more D.

We're extremely thin at C and traded our troubled-but-best C for yet another D would be baffling. Or any assets for Dobson, really. And I like Dobson but our D looks really solid right now and we don't need to assign more cap space to the position or spend big assets doing it.

I don’t think it makes sense as an end play. But if they do decide to trade Petey, it’s not a bad idea to get the best possible asset. Just like you don’t have to keep the first rounder you get, you also don’t have to keep the player (or maybe it opens up a different asset).

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Kinda funny that with Juulsen out of the line up we start to win a few games...

Pretty sure it’s when Soucy and mgmt talked about Soucy’s play.

Soucy be like:



Then low and behold:

 

[NYVanfan]

What about Barret Hayton?
24 YO left shot 6’1” 2018 #5OA… so far just a 40 point guy but good on FO
They have Cooley and Smaltz up the middle as well … what might cost be, or do they not trade him?

 

[PavelBure10]

I'm guessing the Canucks first rounder is their main trade asset left.

With the Canucks defense pretty much set, what else can be used to acquire another top 6 centerman and top 6 forward?

I'm guessing the 1st rounder will be traded, and the other forward help will come July 1st for big game hunting.

What about Barret Hayton?
24 YO left shot 6’1” 2018 #5OA… so far just a 40 point guy but good on FO
They have Cooley and Smaltz up the middle as well … what might cost be, or do they not trade him?

Would love Hayton. They also have Maccelli, and Crouse who are having offseasons and could be made available. Utah could make great trading partners.

 

[thecupismine]

Very curious what happens with Lekk next year. The wingers who've done well under Tocchet have been either big, fast, or extremely high motor guys, with Boeser being the only real exception. Even then, he's clearly improved his strength & board play a ton since Tocchet's come in.

The team very clearly needs a play-driving top 6 winger with some heft and another middle-six center (what that role looks like depends on the rest of Chytil's year), and I'm not sure if he really fits into that mix. In my head the lineup looks something like this (ignore the lines, they change every 5 games anyways):

Debrusk-Petey-Sherwood
xxx-Chytil-xxx
Joshua-xxx-Garland
Hoglander-Blueger-xxx

You could theoretically bring back Boeser and O'Connor which would leave one slot open for him, but it has the same problem of not enough heft/play-drivers in that top six. Letting Boeser walk and replacing him with Lekk is quite a big drop-off, both in terms of leadership and immediate talent too.

Interesting roster construction problem to solve given the style of playing they're going for, curious to see how they go about it.

 

[andora]

I don’t think it makes sense as an end play. But if they do decide to trade Petey, it’s not a bad idea to get the best possible asset. Just like you don’t have to keep the first rounder you get, you also don’t have to keep the player (or maybe it opens up a different asset).

Doesn't really work as easy with players as it does with draft picks, you don't want to get stuck with a player that you don't know if the other team wants that has something you want.

So if you actually start bringing up names like hey if I get this guy would you move your guy for him? Then the other two teams can just talk whereas draft picks it's a lot more basic, hey Kyle what's the main pic you're looking for Petterson. I'm looking for a first rounder, and it keeps it much more basic

 

[JT Milker]

DOC - Chytil - Ehlers would be the fastest line in the league.

 

[Hodgy]

I don’t think he has ever said he has not wanted to play for the Canucks, I think he has only said he wants to win…if you asked Hughes right now what do you think he would say?

Oh ya. I never blamed Petey for being noncommittal before. I would have had second thoughts of re-signing with Benning at the helm as well.

 

[Nuckles]

Not only did Pettersson play a strong, confident game — my goodness that pass to Hronek — but his post-game demeanour spoke volumes. This was a night-and-day shift from the deeply unhappy, deeply oppositional figure we’d been dealing with over the past 12 months.

In September, early in training camp, I’d jokingly said “happy new year” to him and he’d snapped “happy new year?!” Then there were the multiple attempts by reporters to sidle up to him and see if they could smooth the waters, as one does when a player is struggling. He was resistant to all overtures.

That all appears to be gone.

The cloud that was hanging over him disappeared on Saturday night. Not only did he do a scrum with the TV cameras post-game, but he also happily spoke with multiple reporters one-on-one, taking at least another five minutes beyond the scrum to answer any and all questions thrown his way in the moment.

He was laughing and joking. Gave serious consideration to his answers. There was no desire to be anywhere else.

It’s one night, but this is the player we used to see in the room. Here’s hoping it carries forward.

 

[LemonSauceD]

Not only did Pettersson play a strong, confident game — my goodness that pass to Hronek — but his post-game demeanour spoke volumes. This was a night-and-day shift from the deeply unhappy, deeply oppositional figure we’d been dealing with over the past 12 months.

In September, early in training camp, I’d jokingly said “happy new year” to him and he’d snapped “happy new year?!” Then there were the multiple attempts by reporters to sidle up to him and see if they could smooth the waters, as one does when a player is struggling. He was resistant to all overtures.

That all appears to be gone.

The cloud that was hanging over him disappeared on Saturday night. Not only did he do a scrum with the TV cameras post-game, but he also happily spoke with multiple reporters one-on-one, taking at least another five minutes beyond the scrum to answer any and all questions thrown his way in the moment.

He was laughing and joking. Gave serious consideration to his answers. There was no desire to be anywhere else.

It’s one night, but this is the player we used to see in the room. Here’s hoping it carries forward.

This is kinda reminding me of how fresh and rejuvenated the Winnipeg Jets locker room was after Wheeler left.

 

[Jerry the great]

What about Barret Hayton?
24 YO left shot 6’1” 2018 #5OA… so far just a 40 point guy but good on FO
They have Cooley and Smaltz up the middle as well … what might cost be, or do they not trade him?

He'd be a really good get, but It's hard to see why they'd want to trade him.

all his differential stats are outstanding and he's a very strong skater. my only complaint would be the lack of physicality.

 

[TruGr1t]

It only makes sense if it’s a package deal with barzal and dobson for like petey and willander or something.

I would pass, we get the better players, but really hurt us with cap Space.

It really only makes sense if the Isles are kicking in one of Barzal, Horvat or Brock Nelson. I’d agree Barzal is probably the most likely as they are trying to sign Nelson and I suspect they want to reunite Pettersson-Horvat in NY.

I’m not overly enthused about Barzal, honestly but I’m not sure you find a better C piece in another deal. Maybe Kent Johnson, but I’d prefer Barzal to the other rumoured pieces (ie. Cozens etc.)

 

[WTG]

Anaheim has 3 high potential centers, Zegras, Carlsson, and McTavish. Their left-side doesn't seem to strong tbh (LaCombe, Zellweger). I don't know how highly they rate LaCombe but if they are looking for LHD the Canucks are in a position of strength. They would want prospects that are close to NHL ready or NHL ready.

EP25 + Lekkerimaki for McTavish
It would hurt, but at least you get a high potential center in. Someone that could potentially replace Miller.

Mynio + Mueller for Zegras
Bet on Zegras doing better in a more competitive environment. Zegras must be worth close to nothing anyway so he might be a good shout.

 

[Vector]

How would you guys configure the defensive pairings when Hughes comes back?

Surprisingly, I’d probably elevated Soucy and have him beside Hughes. This keeps the other two pairs together and has 5 PKers on the roster. Would rotate between Soucy and Hronek situationally.

If possible, I’d set up a rotation between Forbort and D-Petey. Would also treat that as opponent dependant as well.

 

[Baby Pettersson]

How would you guys configure the defensive pairings when Hughes comes back?

Surprisingly, I’d probably elevated Soucy and have him beside Hughes. This keeps the other two pairs together and has 5 PKers on the roster. Would rotate between Soucy and Hronek situationally.

If possible, I’d set up a rotation between Forbort and D-Petey. Would also treat that as opponent dependant as well.

Hughes Myers

It's been effective and keeps Hronek available to run his own pairing with MPetey to maximize his potential.

Roll with Forbort Soucy as a 3rd pair.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

How would you guys configure the defensive pairings when Hughes comes back?

Surprisingly, I’d probably elevated Soucy and have him beside Hughes. This keeps the other two pairs together and has 5 PKers on the roster. Would rotate between Soucy and Hronek situationally.

If possible, I’d set up a rotation between Forbort and D-Petey. Would also treat that as opponent dependant as well.

I think Hughes-Myers, MP3-Hronek, and Forbort-Soucy is how I would do it. Maybe swap Soucy and Myers if you need to, but Myers has consistently gotten big minutes and assignments for years.

 

[DFAC]

Hughes Myers

It's been effective and keeps Hronek available to run his own pairing with MPetey to maximize his potential.

Roll with Forbort Soucy as a 3rd pair.

Mpetey and Myers has been a really good shutdown pair so far though...