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[DFAC]

Trade both these babies - so sick of this drama. GTFO

 

[SillyRabbit]

Going on the record once again that waiting until an offer with fair value is 100% the right move here.

Even if it means waiting another 1, 2, 3, 4, even 5 months.

Miller has 14 points in his last 16 games. Unless you are getting value comparable to a PPG player, you wait.

It's fine if the value comes in the form of a package, but the value has to be there.

Now is not the time for a desperation trade. You don't have finite assets. You have to manage them properly.

Accepting a lowball deal just to "get something done" is Benning-level thinking.

 

[Nona Di Giuseppe]

I don't have a problem with JR and Alvin taking their time to get the right deal.

This… the “make a deal already!” crowd are asking for a bad return. Standing pat isn’t the worst move for the Canucks if the return is as bad as we have heard either. Off season offers a ton more room.

Going on the record once again that waiting until an offer with fair value is 100% the right move here.

Even if it means waiting another 1, 2, 3, 4, even 5 months.

Miller has 14 points in his last 16 games. Unless you are getting value comparable to a PPG player, you wait.

It's fine if the value comes in the form of a package, but the value has to be there.

Now is not the time for a desperation trade. You don't have finite assets. You have to manage them properly.

Accepting a lowball deal just to "get something done" is Benning-level thinking.

Ha.. I was gonna say exactly this.

 

[Vector]

 

[TruGr1t]

Going on the record once again that waiting until an offer with fair value is 100% the right move here.

Even if it means waiting another 1, 2, 3, 4, even 5 months.

Miller has 14 points in his last 16 games. Unless you are getting value comparable to a PPG player, you wait.

It's fine if the value comes in the form of a package, but the value has to be there.

Now is not the time for a desperation trade. You don't have finite assets. You have to manage them properly.

Accepting a lowball deal just to "get something done" is Benning-level thinking.

I can see what Rutherford is saying here, even if you're committed you aren't going to rush for the sake of these two guys at the expense of the organization. He basically said twice he'd hold them if he didn't get the offers he wanted. This season will fall where it may (you aren't winning anything this year) and the important work will be done this summer. If something comes up in the meantime, great. I'd be surprised at this point if Boeser and Miller aren't moved at the deadline, though. Pettersson will probably be a summer thing unless someone like Buffalo really ponies up what they want.

Demko is the interesting one, I'm not sure what they're going to do with him. If they intend to ride Lankinen through the break as reported, it doesn't give you a lot of intel on Demko's readiness. I guess that has the upside of not tanking his trade value if he totally falls on his face.

As far as Hughes is concerned, you can probably manage that relationship as long as you do something meaningful before the start of next season in a bid to deal with it and improve.

 

[The Iron Goalie]

Kind of hard to be excited knowing what the likely return is from them.

Chytil + Sykora + 1st (top 10 protected) doesn't do it for you?

 

[DFAC]

Honestly, after all this, I am sick and tired of BOTH these guys.

What happened to playing for the crest? Is that not a thing anymore? Unless behind the scenes something crazy vindictive happened... For the love of God, grow up, stop being so immature, and work together for a common goal a goal you guys were close to pushing for just LAST season.

Pettersson needs to take criticism better, and JT Miller needs to stop talking so much crap apparently in the dressing room that it's downright pushing people away, stop being an asshole. This is the NHL; you are getting paid a stupid amount of money.

This is your job, this is your pride for the jersey. Canucks fans have supported you guys through this crap, chanting JT Miller's name 1,000,000,000 times and chanted "let's go Petey" when he was just dreadful for months.

This is honestly becoming a joke and if you can't figure it out because of your selfishness and hate for each other, both of you pack your crap and find another team, trade both and tell Quinn what he wants, and communicate the entire way through.

/rant

Update: I calmed down a bit, but this whole situation is so annoying, I feel we need too trade both our Star Centers over this, which is depressing as hell man, We were so close last year

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Totally agree. Unfortunately it’s all too common nowadays. No accountability.

I want both gone too. Good riddance

 

[me2]

Going on the record once again that waiting until an offer with fair value is 100% the right move here.

Even if it means waiting another 1, 2, 3, 4, even 5 months.

It's currently month 37.

 

[andora]

Everybody always wants transparency in what's going on, we are given transparency

I love it keeps everything up front open honest, we all know it's a business now somebody's actually speaking about it openly and this is what it looks like

Let's go three in a row tomorrow

 

[me2]

Everybody always wants transparency in what's going on, we are given transparency

That is not being transparent and up front. Everything leaked and had been leaking for years. It is exasperation and frustration.

 

[Bleach Clean]

It's quite clear to me that this stuff aggravated after Horvat was traded 2 years ago. It was ignored last year because the team was winning. Miller could not bully Bo since he can fight quite well and would put him to sleep. They had this "cold war" type of conflict going and management choose Miller over him. Once Horvat left, Miller could do what he wanted and here we are. Once Miller is gone i'm sure we'll hear a lot about wtf he was doing behind the scenes.

The biggest mistake this regime has made was to trade Horvat and keep Miller.

There's just as many spoiled brats as there are assholes in the work industry.

The problem with the the people who are defending Pettersson to this degree is that you are ignoring that if this is really what is happening, that Miller is some raging bully and Pettersson is completely innocent in all of this, then Hughes and the rest of the team are ableist's in the whole thing.

Was Horvat OK being captain while Pettersson is being bullied in the locker room? Now Hughes is OK with it too?

Neither were OK with it. Horvat had tension with Miller (rumoured). Horvat got traded. Now, management, coach and captain have reached the end of dealing with Pettersson/Miller behind the scenes. One or both are rumoured to be on the block. The consistent theme? Miller.

Pettersson is a spoiled brat now? Interesting. Let's say that he is, does that absolve Miller from continuing to antagonize him? Nope. The LOA is a big tell here. Of the two, only one left the team (or was made to). It wasn't Pettersson.

This isn't even. They are both not at the same level of fault. The situation has been made untenable because Pettersson refuses to back down. That is not a failing.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

Going on the record once again that waiting until an offer with fair value is 100% the right move here.

Even if it means waiting another 1, 2, 3, 4, even 5 months.

Miller has 14 points in his last 16 games. Unless you are getting value comparable to a PPG player, you wait.

It's fine if the value comes in the form of a package, but the value has to be there.

Now is not the time for a desperation trade. You don't have finite assets. You have to manage them properly.

Accepting a lowball deal just to "get something done" is Benning-level thinking.

At this point, I'm willing to take a fair but not overly exciting package. It just can't be whatever crap a team can throw together while also expecting us to retain/sweeten the deal for them.

 

[SillyRabbit]

I really, really hope that Biz is telling the truth here.

Because I agree with literally everything he said, word-for-word.

You will get so much more value for Miller when people settle down and realize just how much he can improve their team.

If he really did speak to Aquilini, hopefully he blocks JR from doing anything stupid.

 

[Nuckles]

Time for a cold hard reality check for Rutherford's comments.

The idea that the team can afford to trade Miller and/or Pettersson without receiving back a legitimate top 6 center is insane. Saying they can just get picks/prospects, and then flip those for good core players in other trades whenever convenient is basically delusional (See: the current D and their strategy from last off-season). If it was so easy then there would be plenty of teams doing that currently.

Good 1st/2nd line players that aren't past their prime and an upcoming UFA don't become available very often. Especially centers. And when they do, the team trading them isn't always going to be interested in taking back picks/prospects, they may be seeking a similarly talented player in another position (IE. C for D trade).

If they go through with this it could set this team back pretty far. There are ZERO high-end center prospects in the system. The free agent center market next off-season isn't great, and what top UFA center would want to sign with this team any time soon considering the shitshow currently taking place?

There are currently a bunch of NHL teams wanting to add a top 6 center. Joining that group would be a colossal mistake.

 

[GranvilleIsland]

Feels like Rutherford is just publicly shaming them now. Like yeah you two are the reasons we haven't been as good as we can be and sure we'll trade one of you if we have to. Before it was outside noise now it's from the horse's mouth so we'll see how they respond. Last season they worked well enough together to give us our best season in a long time so there's no reason they can't find it in themselves again.

 

[Kickassguy]

Guys... I'm exhausted.

 

[Canuckle1970]

Janick Hansen was just on the radio and said it's not a bullying situation, if there was any sort of bullying situation, the players and org would handle it internally, no question.

I heard that interview with Hansen. He qualified his comments by saying that he was not privy as to what was actually going on behind the scenes, he didn't know - just like the rest of us.

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

Guys... I'm exhausted.

Remember when we used to bitch about having Keith Ballard as a #7 defenseman?

 

[Kickassguy]

Remember when we used to bitch about having Keith Ballard as a #7 defenseman?

I miss it so much

 

[SillyRabbit]

Remember when we used to bitch about having Keith Ballard as a #7 defenseman?

This and David Booth not being a good enough second line winger were our only worries.

We sure had it good during the Gillis era.

 

[Grub]

Feels like Rutherford is just publicly shaming them now. Like yeah you two are the reasons we haven't been as good as we can be and sure we'll trade one of you if we have to. Before it was outside noise now it's from the horse's mouth so we'll see how they respond. Last season they worked well enough together to give us our best season in a long time so there's no reason they can't find it in themselves again.

Have been away from following the team, but after getting caught up the last few days, in the end of the day Miller and Pettersson (especially Pettersson) have not been performing. I think when you have someone like Hughes distribute the puck like that, you kinda expect your top centers to be performing in points. I think they’ll get move soon, I don’t think management believes in these two anymore.

 

[M2Beezy]

This and David Booth not being a good enough second line winger were our only worries.

We sure had it good during the Gillis era.

Strange nostalga, I miss having Pouliot as our #5 and Gudbranson in our top 4 while Sutter and Beagle traded spots as our 3C...

 

[GranvilleIsland]

Have been away from following the team, but after getting caught up the last few days, in the end of the day Miller and Pettersson (especially Pettersson) have not been performing. I think when you have someone like Hughes distribute the puck like that, you kinda expect your top centers to be performing in points. I think they’ll get move soon, I don’t think management believes in these two anymore.

Just feels like he's putting as much pressure on the two players as he can to figure it out, before he trades one for less than he wants. Him confirming it to the media will make it a field day any time they're in front of a mic since now they can bring it up at any time. Which might be what he wants because everything else has failed.

 

[Darwin101]

dude JUST posted one of the most frank interviews I've ever read from an NHL exec.

there is nothing more "sinister and salacious" happening.

I mean the interview was very open but didn’t delve into what I was referencing at all. We are now in the unusual position of our star players caught up in a rift that is damaging the team in every way thinkable, and it’s completely out in the open. Yet beyond reference of a rift there’s not really any details. I’m suggesting that for the situation to be at such a dire and devastating point, this ‘rift’ must come with a whole lot of crazy baggage otherwise I’d hope with all that’s at stake they would have found some type of resolution. I just find as a fan it’s extra frustrating and perplexing to think about it. Like what in the actual hell is going on.

 

[wonton15]

Strange nostalga, I miss having Pouliot as our #5 and Gudbranson in our top 4 while Sutter and Beagle traded spots as our 3C...

I miss Ronalds Kenins having a generational 20 game run as a Raffi Torres reincarnate with more skill. The Latvian Locomotive