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[Donuts]

Lol

 

[SeawaterOnIce]

So what's the direction here? Prepared to lose assets but not spend assets to half compete while not collecting retooling assets for next year. Boeser and Suter re-signing seems to be the only shot they have left.

Trimming costs while trying to make the playoffs. Aquilini wants the best of both worlds the next few months.

People are so blind to the fact that this team has never been sellers under Aquilini. The GM or President has orders to adhere to the mandate and any moves have to guarentee an immediate return.

The only possible way we would have seen any moves is if we had been 15-20 points out of a playoff spot.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

I did not say he could be his equivalent, I simply said to give him a chance. Regardless, we're going to be a footnote on some team's path to the Cup as we're going to be playing probably the Oilers or Stars as a wildcard team and proceed to get smoked.

If they get in, it will be the 2nd WC and likely the Peg.

The Jets size and speed will murder Van let alone they have one of the best goalies in the league up against an anemic offense.

That series is a sweep.

 

[VanillaCoke]

disbelief & anger having an epic internal battle rn.

Unfortunately once again apathy will end up the victor.

 

[Quinning]

"We kind of ran out of time."

Pt 2 - This Time It's Worse

 

[Hodgy]

It would have been better trading Boeser for peanuts than to have this dynamic on the roster moving forward.

I can't imagine there is an agent in the league that would encourage a free agent to come to this team. Say what you will about Benning, but he always treated his players with respect. It's fine to say the offers were not what you felt were acceptable. There is no reason to throw Boeser (and Suter) under the bus.

Ya. And it cuts both ways. If Boeser wasn’t getting good offers it’s because he’s been bad this year and won’t likely be missed much if he’s traded, so trade him and take the value you get and reinvest it for the future.

 

[LickTheEnvelope]

Feeling pretty rudderless as an entity. Going the way of the Kraken?

 

[Nucky]

That's still an awful return on a player that has significantly more value than Boeser.

I mean yea it's gonna be a bad return if the player picks his landing spot.

Look at what the canucks got for Miller

 

[TruKnyte]

Assuming Boeser and Suter walk, this was a disaster of a trade deadline.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Allvin saying that the offers weren’t great for Boeser means nothing. For all we know they were asking for a young roster player and a 1st in return. He’s being called out for his inactivity, of course he’s going to try to defend himself. Virtually every other player that was traded received more value than expected. He’s full of shit.

 

[TruGr1t]

They are staring at the deadline headlights like a mesmerised deer.

If playoffs are the goal Soucy is more useful than a 3rd.

If playoffs are the goal they should have been buyers. They weren't.

They "gave up" a 1st+ holding onto self-rentals Boeser and Suter. Clearly they should be fine with giving up more assets to compete since they are not looking to the future. They didn't.

They also said they'd sell Boeser if they couldn't sign him. They didn't. It's out there now they have said it, that genie isn't going back in the bottle.

So what's the direction here? Prepared to lose assets but not spend assets to half compete while not collecting retooling assets for next year. Boeser and Suter re-signing seems to be the only shot they have left.

Great post.

The fact is the direction is shit. Through various events, some in their control and some out of their control, this roster has basically been decimated since losing to the Oilers last year. They are in an absolutely terrible position to make this team much better over the near term due to the fact they are now totally bereft of star talent outside of Hughes, and have almost nothing in the prospect pipeline. They have cap space, but this has proven time and again to be an awful way to build the backbone of your team (ie. top-line centre, top-flight goalie, top-line scoring wingers, etc.).

The direction at this point seems to just be to hope something falls in their lap at some point through the draft and free agency that gives them some semblence of actual direction.

 

[BoHorvat 53]

If they get in, it will be the 2nd WC and likely the Peg.

The Jets size and speed will murder Van let alone they have one of the best goalies in the league up against an anemic offense.

That series is a sweep.

Stars are very quietly 6 points behind the Jets with a game in hand, and upgraded their roster massively at the deadline. I'd have them as the favs to take the Central division atm

 

[PuckMunchkin]

Outside the hole of Miller, I'd argue we have way more. Our bottom 6 is much stronger and not anchored by Beagle and Sutter getting shellacked every night. Hronek and Marcus can acutally hold their own on a pairing without Hughes. Lekkerimaki is coming up more promising than Podkolzin.

Honrek maaaybe.

Marcus is not elite. Neither is Lekkeri.

We have Hughes. Thats it. EP40 if he gets his game back.

We're in a unique situation capwise where we have a ton of cap next year without needing to re-sign anybody. Theoretically we could go big fish hunting or take a Laine-type off somebody's hands much easier than other teams. That's a lot better than most teams with playoff aims.

Why dont we need to resign anyone?

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Allvin saying that the offers weren’t great for Boeser means nothing. For all we know they were asking for a young roster player and a 1st in return. He’s being called out for his inactivity, of course he’s going to try to defend himself.

I have zero faith in Allvin anymore.

They did all that logistical gymnastics to create tons of cap space and not use $1 of it.

Absolute waste of time.

Ridiculous.

 

[ephmrl]

Allvin saying that the offers weren’t great for Boeser means nothing. For all we know they were asking for a young roster player and a 1st in return. He’s being called out for his inactivity, of course he’s going to try to defend himself.

That's exactly what they should have been asking for, and it doesn't really make sense to move Boeser for anything less than that.

If they moved Boeser for a 2nd/3rd and punted on the remainder of the season, what kind of message does that send to Hughes who has sacrificed his body and health to get wins for this team? The goal for the team over the next couple years is to create an environment that keeps Hughes happy. Trading away Boeser and not bringing in another meaningful roster player to replace him would send a terrible message to a player who's ultra-competitive and has sacrificed a lot for this team.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Stars are very quietly 6 points behind the Jets with a game in hand, and upgraded their roster massively at the deadline. I'd have them as the favs to take the Central division atm

Dallas would sweep them too.

I'd laugh my ass off watching Rantanen put up a ton of points on them.

 

[Hodgy]

Allvin saying that the offers weren’t great for Boeser means nothing. For all we know they were asking for a young roster player and a 1st in return. He’s being called out for his inactivity, of course he’s going to try to defend himself. Virtually every other player that was traded received more value than expected. He’s full of shit.

Yes, 100%.

This is exactly what we predicted.

“We wanted a good young forward, with team control, so that we’d both get better in the future but not worse in the present, and oh my god you wouldn’t believe it but no one would trade that player to us. But trust us, we definitely always wanted to trade these players, because we totally care more about the future, then about the playoffs and our future employment prospects.”

 

[LemonSauceD]

Middle mediocrity. Directionless team. Allvin saying this team can compete is hilarious.

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

 

[Nucky]

Allvin saying that the offers weren’t great for Boeser means nothing. For all we know they were asking for a young roster player and a 1st in return. He’s being called out for his inactivity, of course he’s going to try to defend himself. Virtually every other player that was traded received more value than expected. He’s full of shit.

yeah i have a feeling that the canucks being so insistent on the age gap targets has once again limited trade partners.

Like even if you hate magic beans, they do carry value, especially during draft week when teams get prospect fever.

 

[me2]

I have zero faith in Allvin anymore.

They did all that logistical gymnastics to create tons of cap space and not use $1 of it.

Absolute waste of time.

Ridiculous.

They couldn't even get in to a 3-way to make use of it retaining for someone. Micromanagement success, macromanagement fail.

 

[December5th]

That's exactly what they should have been asking for, and it doesn't really make sense to move Boeser for anything less than that.

If they moved Boeser for a 2nd/3rd and punted on the remainder of the season, what kind of message does that send to Hughes who has sacrificed his body and health to get wins for this team? The goal for the team over the next couple years is to create an environment that keeps Hughes happy. Trading away Boeser and not bringing in another meaningful roster player to replace him would send a terrible message to a player who's ultra-competitive and has sacrificed a lot for this team.

hughes should play for a game to game basis not to win the cup. hughes isnt dumb he knows they arnt winning anything this year. hes a professional so he plays the best he can every game, not because hes trying to win a cup. what type of messaage does it leave to quinn in 2 years when they are letting players go for nothing instead of improving the team. almost a decade of losing for quinn

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

After Boeser rejected the last contract offer (~1 week ago), they should have dealt him then so they could make a subsequent trade for another F.

But they didn't.

Now he likely walks for nothing.

Great job dick head.

 

[thefutures]

Allvin and Co going the same yes man route as Benning. This team already hit its peak it's, all down from here

 

[LemonSauceD]

“It definitely was an interesting market in some of the moves. The biggest reason I felt that we didn’t do any moves here today was that there was not a whole lot of market return on our players, unfortunately,” -Allvin

lmfao