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Assuming Bear joins the team and is able to shake the rust off, I would try and swap out Tyler Myers for Anthony Mantha.
Hopefully Tanev/Peeke are moved now that the Zadorov domino came down, then we can move Myers for....what ever. No cap back, and before anyone says it's not happening, Beau and Zad were both traded for picks.
Myers provides us two benefits, mainly, his size and physicality, and his handedness. Zad takes over the size/physicality and then we just need another RHD.
Bear, Kessel and Perry should then be signed, and I'm sure for less than Myers cap hit.
Bear was a Canuck, is still in province training after partially recovering, and should be ready mid-December apparently. He is RHD, and would eat up some minutes in that role without...the chaos.
Kessel is a spare forward on last years cup team, but is important because he can still step into a top six role. He and Hoglander should be in that top six role that DiGiuseppe was pencilled into to start the year, and if Hoglander is needed in the bottom six role, we have a shooter that can step in. He has a history with RutherVin, and I think he could be a fit roster wise.
Perry has just been fired and is apparently seeking help with alcohol issues and mental issues. If he ready to try to play again this year, he brings a lot I think we could use, as far as grit, agitation, skill and cup experience. Do we need another winger, especially if we get Kessel? No, no we don't. However depth is always needed, and he brings a mix of things we could use more of. Why would he pick Vancouver? We are a young up and coming team, whos goal seems to be making it deep into the playoffs. He would have a role here similar to what he had on the Blackhawks, but will be a more successful team.
Any way, its a boring plan, but I think my selling Myers and adding these three, we end up a much better team. We still have a dearth of RHD to address, but we're not giving up any assets here, and in fact are adding something in the Myers move, hopefully.
Myers provides us two benefits, mainly, his size and physicality, and his handedness. Zad takes over the size/physicality and then we just need another RHD.
Bear, Kessel and Perry should then be signed, and I'm sure for less than Myers cap hit.
Bear was a Canuck, is still in province training after partially recovering, and should be ready mid-December apparently. He is RHD, and would eat up some minutes in that role without...the chaos.
Kessel is a spare forward on last years cup team, but is important because he can still step into a top six role. He and Hoglander should be in that top six role that DiGiuseppe was pencilled into to start the year, and if Hoglander is needed in the bottom six role, we have a shooter that can step in. He has a history with RutherVin, and I think he could be a fit roster wise.
Perry has just been fired and is apparently seeking help with alcohol issues and mental issues. If he ready to try to play again this year, he brings a lot I think we could use, as far as grit, agitation, skill and cup experience. Do we need another winger, especially if we get Kessel? No, no we don't. However depth is always needed, and he brings a mix of things we could use more of. Why would he pick Vancouver? We are a young up and coming team, whos goal seems to be making it deep into the playoffs. He would have a role here similar to what he had on the Blackhawks, but will be a more successful team.
Any way, its a boring plan, but I think my selling Myers and adding these three, we end up a much better team. We still have a dearth of RHD to address, but we're not giving up any assets here, and in fact are adding something in the Myers move, hopefully.
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He's 6'5 and 234lbs.
Bring in Laine, Hayes and Oleksiak! Let's make the BIGGEST team ever.
I just like Mantha a lot, think he's a really good fit next to both Miller and Pettersson.
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His underlying numbers were rock solid in 2022-2023. Stats look rather mediocre this year, however it doesn't look too horrendous when you factor the reduced offensive output from that entire Capitals team.
Just have to get Tyler Myers off the team. It's one thing to absorb over 22min and wear out, but the guy's really mostly playing under 20 min these days and looks like crap. There were games this year when his minutes were sub 14min and he somehow managed to look even worse.
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When a player asks for a trade but it doesn't happen right away due to stats or contract cap hits then the team has to enhance his value somehow. Time is on the club side, not the player's. recanting becomes a moot point. The expression could just as easily be recanted again if the player becomes disenfranchised later. If a player doesn't want to be on the team, move him.
What is more important A player or the TEAM?
"How will they replace Horvat's goals". They did, ditto with Boeser's
The only good way and a possible reason. If they retained some of is cap hit and as a reason he is a RHD stay at homeg uy, matched with Hughes he might work out but there are others out there
Taking back a 5 million dollar player. Could happen with this management group. This market just isn't used to seeing trades and winning them. I think Garland is still on the block.
There are multiple expiring contract and/or teams that will have cap issues that might have to shed a player. NYR have two RHD making huge money and they need to give big raise to Schneider as the #5/6 dman. Columbus has 5 RHD on the NHL roster and need a scoring forward with 6 RFA's, 4 needing 2nd contracts (big raises), multiple FA's July 1.
Canucks are a slow team. Mantha doesn't help with the forecheck. If they are going for a forward, would rather 50% retain on Myers and use that 3m to bring in a speedy forechecker.
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Boeser/Garland and late pick if necessary. The big win is cap space to make trade/sign Tanev
Not a Tocchet player and it would take a few weeks to acclimate to the system
Ditto
Boeser/Garland trade for space and/or player/picks.
Myers has very good defensive numbers. Steady. Leads all defence in hits, 2nd in blocked shots, 3rd in shooting percentage and 3rd in all other defensive stats.
Ya the few games he played hurt he didn't look great.
Next year the defence could look like;
in no particular order
Hughes - Tanev/?
Zardorov - Hronek
Soucy - Myers
Not fantastic but very good for a year or two until Wilander, Pettersson, McWard and Brzustewicz test the waters in the NHL plus any other defence traded for or drafted.
He is faster, bigger and more truculent than Boeser.
Mantha is fast: https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/washi... and Beck Malenstyn,open the 2023-24 campaign.
But more generally, a better way for the Canucks to get faster is to bring in high hockey IQ guys that can play with pace as opposed to adding pure footspeed. Mantha can do that too.
I wonder if there is something creative we can do with Myers. Move him off for like a low round pick to a team like Chicago or something with no retention and that team can retain half and move him off to another team for a higher round pick.
Myers making only 1M would mean whatever team in the middle of the transaction will really be only retaining like maybe 500K prorated when the trade happens at TDL.
With like 6M off our books we can do some shopping around the TDL as well.
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They have 4 left handed dmen that are better than every RD on the roster save Hronek.
When Soucy comes back they will be forced to finally shift an LD to RD and that player will instantly eat Myers minutes on merit. Here's hoping we see a Myers trade next.
When Soucy comes back they will be forced to finally shift an LD to RD and that player will instantly eat Myers minutes on merit. Here's hoping we see a Myers trade next.
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I wonder if they're trying to be patient and wait for injuries to impact other teams to make taking Myers more palatable, similarly to what they did with Beau.
probably but I think we can't execute on that until Soucy is close to coming back and we have Bear signed. I really think Myers will be gone around late Jan - late Feb.
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As long as Calgary keeps winning, and is in the mix..I dont see Tanev being moved (at least until the TDL, and will definitely not be a Flame after this season).
Zadorov:
-have targeted Zadorov for a long time
-Calgary wants to keep their retention slots for later in the season
-was told a couple of days ago that the first trade for a defenceman was going to be a left shot
-Vancouver was high on Zadorov's list of destinations
-last week the Canucks made an offer to the Flames for him
-no contract extension came with the trade but was told there was a possibility of a sign-and-trade
-will be very surprised if the Canucks don't extend Zadorov before July 1st
Tanev:
-lots of teams after Tanev; deep down he thought it could have been him and not Zadorov trade to the Canucks; still loves the city; very good friends here and never wanted to leave
-acquisition cost is higher than Zadorov
-Canucks could swing back around on July 1st
-looks like Tanev will probably end up elsewhere
Bear:
-still in on Bear
-"need one more guy and that's Bear"
-won't sign for another 2-3 weeks
-guesses deal will be 1y at 1m prorated
-ways to get Bear on the books
-5-6 teams after him; Canucks one of them but has heard some others are hot and heavy after him
-if they don't get Bear they can always move Cole to the right side
Myers:
-if they get Bear, they can now move Myers at the trade deadline
-what they do with him will be interesting
Mr. Canucklehead
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Signing Bear would be great. He’ll have an adjustment period to get up to speed, but he’s an immediate upgrade over some players currently dressing.
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One of their other long term rumoured targets has been Necas, who is having a pretty average season thus far.
Perhaps they will circle back on him now.
Perhaps they will circle back on him now.
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I like Necas.One of their other long term rumoured targets has been Necas, who is having a pretty average season thus far.
Perhaps they will circle back on him now.
I'd also take a chance and try a Josh Anderson for Garland swap.
Yes Anderson makes slightly more money, for one additional year and he's had health issues.
But he provides a needed element to the Top 6 and has show the ability to score.
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Tanev... Miss that guy. Want him back in the offseason.
Sign Bear, dump Myers, profit.
Hughes Bear
Soucy Hronek
Zadorov Cole
Nice.
Sign Bear, dump Myers, profit.
Hughes Bear
Soucy Hronek
Zadorov Cole
Nice.
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