Canucks News, Rumours, and & Fantasy GM | Off-Season Edition | Not satisfied, so now what?

[Mr. Canucklehead]

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Vector, here, I've taken over this original post. Here's the link to my spreadsheet. Contains regularly updated capspace totals, projected rosters, and UFA & RFA lists with AFP's contract projections.

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[Just A Bit Outside]

I'd be thrilled with any of Marchenko, Voronkov, of Chinakhov.

I think Provorov would get eaten alive by this market given his public stance against Pride jerseys.

Forgot about that. Forget him then.

 

[tradervik]

That projected Lucas Raymond contract will age strongly for the wings.

Like a fine wine or a wheel of camembert?

 

[Nick Lang]

Sounds like the Canucks have no intention of meeting Zadorov's ask, so either he comes down or bye-bye.

Good. We simply don't have the cap space to be lavishly spending on bottom pairing dmen.

 

[Szechwan]

Good. We simply don't have the cap space to be lavishly spending on bottom pairing dmen.

He played 20-22 min/game in the playoffs, I don't think they consider him a bottom pairing guy.

 

[Wisp]

Good. We simply don't have the cap space to be lavishly spending on bottom pairing dmen.

probably resources better spent on guy like Montour or Pesce, especially with uncertainty around Hronek. Hughes partner should be an attractive job.

 

[TruGr1t]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1795202088185552932

 

[Vector]

probably resources better spent on guy like Montour or Pesce, especially with uncertainty around Hronek. Hughes partner should be an attractive job.

Pesce would scare the crap out of me. Him slowing down, his production dropping by half, and his latest injury make me think anyone who signs him is taking a huge risk.

 

[PavelBure10]

Oh man, all of these assets given up for Lindholm and Zadorov just to make it far in the playoffs. We could very well lose them both

 

[Hansen]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1795202088185552932

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6x6 is not unexpected for Zadorov. I'd hope he'd give us a bit of a discount, I'd do 5.5M x 5 maybe 6 years

 

[Vector]

Zadorov has had a really small sample size of excellent play. He has an entire career of being inconsistent and bouncing around pairings. I would be willing to offer a long term contract with heavy trade protection but at a 4.5m cap hit. Sounds like he wants both term and money.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Zad going to get Tyler Myers money.

6x6.

 

[TruGr1t]

6x6 is not unexpected for Zadorov. I'd hope he'd give us a bit of a discount, I'd do 5.5M x 5 maybe 6 years

I'd be hesitant to do 6x5, let along 6x6. Stay away.

 

[Horvat1C]

So pretty much the same team as last season but worse offensively and a negligible improvement defensively.

Kind of underwhelming.

Salary cap reality.

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

Would you guys trade Hoglander straight up for Jeannot? He has a $2.6 mill cap hit and will be a UFA. He would mainly replace Joshua imo.

I'm not sure I would trade Tucker Poolman for Jeannot.

Nils Hoglander is a 24 goal scorer on a $1.1M contract, he has crazy trade value.

 

[Nucker101]

I love Z but 6x6 or close to that is just too much sadly.

 

[Frankie Blueberries]

I'm not sure I would trade Tucker Poolman for Jeannot.

Nils Hoglander is a 24 goal scorer on a $1.1M contract, he has crazy trade value.

Yeah, I see the error in my ways. I do think Jeannot could flourish in Tocchet’s system though.

 

[JAK]

lol, that is the most milstein sourced milstein story ever.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1795202088185552932

Dhaliwal the agent mouth piece is earning his paycheques from the agents

 

[vancityluongo]

with all due respect, the playoffs have given some of you guys "jim benning olli juolevi brain"

half of this board balked at giving up hoglander for jake guentzel... a couple poor playoff games shouldn't change that. zadorov at a 6x6??? we're getting to a point where i'm convinced a significant portion of the fanbase would *contracts aside* rather have zadorov than mitch marner lol

big bone crunching hits are nice, but goals are nicer, and we lost because of a lack of the latter.

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

Zadorov has had a really small sample size of excellent play. He has an entire career of being inconsistent and bouncing around pairings. I would be willing to offer a long term contract with heavy trade protection but at a 4.5m cap hit. Sounds like he wants both term and money.

Which is precisely the mistaken Benning continuously made. If Zadorov wants to stay, he needs to pick between the two or another team can sign him.

 

[Burke's Evil Spirit]

with all due respect, the playoffs have given some of you guys "jim benning olli juolevi brain"

half of this board balked at giving up hoglander for jake guentzel... a couple poor playoff games shouldn't change that. zadorov at a 6x6??? we're getting to a point where i'm convinced a significant portion of the fanbase would *contracts aside* rather have zadorov than mitch marner lol

big bone crunching hits are nice, but goals are nicer, and we lost because of a lack of the latter.

There's a difference between trading Hoglander for a rental and having him be a part of a package that gets us a long-term offensive piece.

 

[timw33]

with all due respect, the playoffs have given some of you guys "jim benning olli juolevi brain"

half of this board balked at giving up hoglander for jake guentzel... a couple poor playoff games shouldn't change that. zadorov at a 6x6??? we're getting to a point where i'm convinced a significant portion of the fanbase would *contracts aside* rather have zadorov than mitch marner lol

big bone crunching hits are nice, but goals are nicer, and we lost because of a lack of the latter.

We seem to be forgetting how much you can hamstring your team and close your competitive window by overpaying bottom half of the roster players.

From what the front office has telegraphed so far it does not seem like they are going to fall into this trap and know that the cap is king and will likely approach the offseason in a pretty ruthless manner, and that means sticking to their max contract offer numbers.

Would be great if they could find a deal that works for both parties, but Zadorov likely needs to decide whether the good situation he has in Vancouver is better than making a few extra million in a much more unknown situation elsewhere.

 

[CanucksSayEh]

Hoglander scores 30+ if EP and Mik aren't complete ass this year.

This team can't afford to lose any more scoring, certainly not dirt cheap scoring.

 

[DimitriL07]

Adios Z if that’s what he actually wants.

 

[pitseleh]

There's a difference between trading Hoglander for a rental and having him be a part of a package that gets us a long-term offensive piece.

Yeah, realistically this team needs 2-3 more Hoglander-type low cap hit/medium productivity players, and subtracting one of the few they do have just adds to an already difficult problem. Only really makes sense to trade him if: (1) Tocchet says he won’t play him, (2) a star like Tkachuk shakes loose and the team acquiring him wants current production instead of futures, or (3) you move him for an equivalent defender to enable trading Hronek for a forward.

 

[Icebreakers]

Where is Zadorovs agent getting this money from lol.

Just because of one good playoffs? If you look at his comparables with his production he's probably sitting at 4m-4.5m.

In fact, what separates Zadorov from Soucy in terms of the on ice product? Is Zadorov worth close to 2x the value? They are the same age, similar size with similar production.