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Horvat is signed for 1/2 the amount and doesnt have a f***ed up neck.
Avs (rightfully) don't have to pay the ask but someone sure will.
Rumor: Canucks getting lots of calls on Horvat
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Avs (rightfully) don't have to pay the ask but someone sure will.
horvat at next years deadline would easily get 1st+ so if any team is going to get him now the difference is going to be a lot more than a barron type prospect.
This has been my main position regarding the lockeroom issues. Miller came in the year that Bo Horvat was named captain, and started acting like the captain. Miller should have come in way more humble and tried to support the young guys, not step in front of them.
I really think Miller is going to be the one out the door. Whether he is right when he talks is not in question - it's whether he should be the one talking at all.
just because he's the avs best prospect doesn't make him a top prospect in general. lots of teams have barron type prospects
before barron avs fans were acting like timmins was a top prospect and look what he got traded for
The Moose is Loose
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Kranix
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This is crazy that the canucks are going to trade a good player instead of simply getting rid of Green
rathbone is easily same tier.
how about you look at other teams who's offers the avs would be competing with. just off the sens thomson/jbd are both in the same tier as barron
SelltheTeamFrancesco
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Sabres also weren't willing to take back or retain salary plus their were health issues. Not saying they will get that price but circumstances are different. If Canucks are willing to take money back. Taking on someone like Erik Johnson's salary or retain Horvat's salary I could see them getting two blue chip prospects back.
Syckle78
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Horvat only has two years of control left though. He's a player I would love to have and would be ok with Yzerman paying fair value for but that is a huge concern.
SI90
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Why in the world would they trade Horvat?
Would love him on the isles. Don’t think we have the room unless there’s forward(s) going the other way.
would be funny. VAN traded Schnieder for rhe Horvat pick and if Lou traded for him they would be teammates.
Would love him on the isles. Don’t think we have the room unless there’s forward(s) going the other way.
would be funny. VAN traded Schnieder for rhe Horvat pick and if Lou traded for him they would be teammates.
Kocur Dill
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1st
Lundkvist
Georgiev
Horvat
Halak
Rangers eat the cap space. Nuks get 1st, top prospect RD, and a reclamation goalie with potential. Cap space opens more doors for Benning to make other deals with some leverage.
Lundkvist
Georgiev
Horvat
Halak
Rangers eat the cap space. Nuks get 1st, top prospect RD, and a reclamation goalie with potential. Cap space opens more doors for Benning to make other deals with some leverage.
Foligno cost a 1st and 4th as a 33yr old rental
Horvat is entering his prime at 26 and is signed for 2 more years.
Forgot to add but Blake Coleman got a 1st and Nolan Foote for 1 and a half year. Going to need a lot more than what you offered
Free agent in 2 years. He's not getting traded unless he has indicated he is not interested in a rebuild and therefore will just walk in 2 years.
Canucks arent openly putting him on the block, the rumor is teams are calling and want him badly.
He would be perfect in NYI.
The Moose is Loose
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I would take Barron over Thomson or Bernard-Docker. But to each their own.
Since you’re so critical let’s hear your offer.
Are the Sens going to offer Thomson + their 2022 1st + 3rd to beat the Avs?
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Underwhelming.
Canucks can do better targeting a different Dman than Lundkvist. and Demko will dominate the crease for the next 5 years plus, no need to take Gorgiev and have him part of the value from Cancusk POV.
SI90
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He would be perfect on the isles. I just can’t see the Canucks trading him unless like you said he won’t commit.
Avs44
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Eh, I don't really agree on a few fronts. Newhook is a top prospect, but Barron isn't the same category. Good prospect, recent first rounder whose stock certainly has not gone down, but he's not a "blue chipper" like Newhook and certainly not Byram (although we may be arguing the semantics of what blue chip means here).
I do think Horvat is worth a Newhook and Barron if he's moved. As I see it he's a clear #2 center good for about 60 points a year who's quite affordable for the next two seasons at 5.5. To be clear, given the Avs' cap constrains and how Sakic operates I don't think there's any chance Sakic moves Newhook for someone with only 1.5 years of team control. But I think Horvat gets a top return if he's moved.
Of course, I also thought Eichel was going to get at least one more Barron-calibre piece in return and the Sabres botched that...so what do I know.
That looks like Vancouver is getting hosed big time here. Georgiev has negative value and Lundkvist hasn't proven a damn thing and hasn't been great.
TheGroceryStick
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The only other way I see Horvat getting traded is if its a "hockey trade"
Horvat for Dobson kinda deal.
Lol your missing the point. I just used the sens as a comparison.
my point is Barron is not some blue chip prospect. Lots of teams have similar prospects.
when Foote was trade for Coleman he was the same tier as Barron.
Horvat is much better than Coleman.
Use some common sense. A late first and a recent first round d is not some enticing offer that you think it is
The last "Plus" better be the best asset in that deal.
ChaoticOrange
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