Oilers could use a goalie like Demko.
Value of: Canucks firesale
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Oilers could use a goalie like Demko.
He’s UFA after this season. No team is paying a 1st to drop a $4.5m salary.
setting aside any ? of this with an open mind, Zib has full player control nmc until wk before td of his last yr.
He took coupla mil less to be here
He won't go anywhere
Prior to his deal, at 5.6 or whatev he was a primo, primo rental this yr, but that is no longer the case
We would only have interest in ElPet or Pod
and ElPet we cannot afford to fit in salary cap next yr w/Fox going from elc to 9.5 per
Any ElPet type must wait until Trouba's 8m per is moved
Pod/+ can theoretically go for correct mix of vet + prospect + pick
which I understand VAN does not want to do unless there is enuf profit
is that deal there?
not immediately seeing it, but maybe...
NYVanfan
Registered User
The only guy it makes sense for the Canucks to trade is Miller.
Makes zero sense to trade any of the young core — these are the guys they should be building around (EP, Boeser, Horvat, Höglander, Podkolzin, Garland, Hughes, Rathbone) as for the older guys, they won’t get squat for them.
That is, other than Miller, who has a year and 3/4 left at just over 5 million per and the dude has been a point per game player. He hits, he blocks, he can take face-offs, he’s exactly what a contender could use to get over the top.
Who is giving us a first and a stud young RHD?
Face it Canucks fans we are not winning the cup in the next two years and after that we don’t want to pay Miller a Wheeler contract through his 30s. It totally makes sense to move anyone over 25, so the new GM can build something here, and he is the best candidate.
Makes zero sense to trade any of the young core — these are the guys they should be building around (EP, Boeser, Horvat, Höglander, Podkolzin, Garland, Hughes, Rathbone) as for the older guys, they won’t get squat for them.
That is, other than Miller, who has a year and 3/4 left at just over 5 million per and the dude has been a point per game player. He hits, he blocks, he can take face-offs, he’s exactly what a contender could use to get over the top.
Who is giving us a first and a stud young RHD?
Face it Canucks fans we are not winning the cup in the next two years and after that we don’t want to pay Miller a Wheeler contract through his 30s. It totally makes sense to move anyone over 25, so the new GM can build something here, and he is the best candidate.
GreeningOil
Yarpmeister
Pearson is in year 1 of 3, I highly doubt someones grabbing him.
Miller atleast has solid appeal and can get a decent return with his contract.
Welcome to Hf boards! Where when your best players are struggling over a 15 game sample size offers are low balls and then the posters offering said lowballs get upset you don’t take their crap gift wrapped with a 1st or 2nd for your best players
sorry we can see behind that bow is a bunch of crap that we don’t want or need and generally tends to be crap you can’t wait to get rid of either.
Ex: jt compher y’all keep trying to shove down our throats when just 15 games ago most of your fan base figured you’d have to pay to dump him
What's the offer, because we're getting scammed with most of the offers being presented.
Lt Dan
F*** your ice cream!
Garland is someone I'd rather keep, but we need RHD and, hilariously now, center prospects. High picks. High energy players like Garland. We are relatively well stocked on winger and LHD prospects/young players, but someone over the top wouldn't be dismissed lightly.
Out side of Madden, I don't know a lot about the Kings prospects though, aside from top talent, which I presume would be unavailable.
GuerinUp
Registered User
Well bluntly not something like this. No goaltender in the league lands multiple firsts ++.
Also, it might be hard for HF Board users to catch up with the Oilers but the days are gone where Koskinen would cost a 1st to move. Last year of his contract and he has been playing lights out good. Can it last? I don't know about that, but he was the reason the Oilers stole a win out of St. Louis last night.
No it wouldn't.
Yeah, I don't want to scam anyone. I can see a pick and a prospect going to the 'Nucks in a Demko deal, but some $$$ has to move as well, this being the reality of a cap world.
SensFactor
Registered User
He really hasn't been that impressive as a starter. With his age I would think that his value is far higher to the Canucks
Guys who will have value and and probably should be traded:
Miller: One of the most entertaining players to watch when he's on and most frustrating when he's not.
Horvat: Low end offensive 1C/2c. Faceoffs could make him potentially very sought after, but his reputation of being a 2 way force is just a carry over from Juniors. Really interested to see him what he looks like with a proper developmental team and system
Both these guys should get the standard 1st/young roster player/top 5 prospect that you see for players of this caliber, though if young dman like Dobson and Smith are available for them the Canucks might be willing to take less value
Motte: 4th liner grinder/pker on a cap friendly contract. GM's might get tunnel vision from what Tampa has done with Goodrow and Coleman and offer more then a mid round pick.
Halak?
Guys who should be traded, but have little to no value:
OEL: Even if he has been playing better no is going to touch this timebomb of a contract, except perhaps another Benning
Myers: We really need to get out of this contract, but I can't see any takers without taking an equally bad one back. 4/5 dman paid like #2 who is very mistake prone and inconsistent. Like every dman that plays for Travis Green I except him to look better somewhere else and a team with actual structure might be the best place for him ala Shattenkirk in Tampa
Poolman: Nothing player, making 1.5 Mill more then he should with 4 years left
Hamonic: With the vax issue no is touching him this year, but next year with one year left should generate some interest as vet defensive defensemen that can occasionally play up in the top 4
Dickinson: bottom 6 vanilla winger making 1.5M more then he should with 3 years left
Pearson: Probably could have gotten alot last year if we traded him, but with his new contract he's not getting anything this year
Waiver wire
Dowling
Laminko
Chiasson
Hunt
Burroughs
Bailey
Bowey
Not getting traded
Hoglander
Demko
Hughes
Garland
Pod
Pettersson (stop sending offers; The Canucks aren't trading him when his value is at it's lowest point. We'll see 1 year from now)
Maybe?
Boeser
Miller: One of the most entertaining players to watch when he's on and most frustrating when he's not.
Horvat: Low end offensive 1C/2c. Faceoffs could make him potentially very sought after, but his reputation of being a 2 way force is just a carry over from Juniors. Really interested to see him what he looks like with a proper developmental team and system
Both these guys should get the standard 1st/young roster player/top 5 prospect that you see for players of this caliber, though if young dman like Dobson and Smith are available for them the Canucks might be willing to take less value
Motte: 4th liner grinder/pker on a cap friendly contract. GM's might get tunnel vision from what Tampa has done with Goodrow and Coleman and offer more then a mid round pick.
Halak?
Guys who should be traded, but have little to no value:
OEL: Even if he has been playing better no is going to touch this timebomb of a contract, except perhaps another Benning
Myers: We really need to get out of this contract, but I can't see any takers without taking an equally bad one back. 4/5 dman paid like #2 who is very mistake prone and inconsistent. Like every dman that plays for Travis Green I except him to look better somewhere else and a team with actual structure might be the best place for him ala Shattenkirk in Tampa
Poolman: Nothing player, making 1.5 Mill more then he should with 4 years left
Hamonic: With the vax issue no is touching him this year, but next year with one year left should generate some interest as vet defensive defensemen that can occasionally play up in the top 4
Dickinson: bottom 6 vanilla winger making 1.5M more then he should with 3 years left
Pearson: Probably could have gotten alot last year if we traded him, but with his new contract he's not getting anything this year
Waiver wire
Dowling
Laminko
Chiasson
Hunt
Burroughs
Bailey
Bowey
Not getting traded
Hoglander
Demko
Hughes
Garland
Pod
Pettersson (stop sending offers; The Canucks aren't trading him when his value is at it's lowest point. We'll see 1 year from now)
Maybe?
Boeser
His stats were pretty impressive before his last 2 games and he plays for one of the worse defensive teams in the league that routinely give up grade A chances
Adding equal cap isn't a deal break if it's short term, but someone like Koskanen doesn't do anything for us in terms of value either. Having Demko isn't a burden, as we can clearly tank with the team in front of him, so a first or second and something to make it worth our while, a prospect or young player. With Demko, I'd expect Edmonton to do well, and trading our last young goalie on the cusp of becoming a star got us Horvat, and we had to move Schneider. If the price is too high here, not a problem, but Demko isn't a guy we need to move or should move at this stage.
Fair enough. We're more than happy to keep him through the rebuild, so unless we get something we need out of the deal, we don't really have incentive to move him.
We kind of need C too...and RHD.
A first and some good prospects start the conversation, although for a real firesale we're waiting on Benning to be shot into orbit.
If we're moving Horvat, the rebuild will be started in earnest, and Dumba and Greenway, the meat of the deal, don't really get us there.
