Rumor: Canucks Exploring Tyler Myers Trade Value

[Canadian Canuck]

Sounds like you have your perfect partner for Hughes. Why target Schneider?

Myers and Schneider are not alike at all in what they do.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

I'd take Myers if it meant moving a contract or two but that's what Vancouver's trying to do so I'm sure they would hate any offer I'd make lol

 

[ManofSteel55]

Wouldn't Myers have negative value? If he was a coming UFA I could see a playoff team adding him (Canuck’s retain) for a pick/prospect, but he’s got term left.

This is where the term "negative value" has issues. He might not be the type of guy who can be traded for a huge haul of picks and prospects, but I'm sure teams out there would be interested in some way. It's about finding the team who offers the right fit in return. For the purposes of dumping his contract to another team, he may have negative value though. The issue for the Canucks could be that they want futures, and teams wanting Myers may be looking for the proverbial "hockey trade".

 

[Bettman Returnz]

I'd take Myers if it meant moving a contract or two but that's what Vancouver's trying to do so I'm sure they would hate any offer I'd make lol

Ha yeah unless we make a trade for a cheaper or shorter term player then it doesn’t really make sense. We need to clear up some cap space.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Myers and Schneider are not alike at all in what they do.

Same. As an Oiler fan, he's likely a fit for what we need, but we would need to trade guys out to fit him in. I don't expect a Myers for Barrie deal would have interest from the Canucks regardless of the add-ons.

 

[Boondock]

Not sure why people aren’t in on the Myers for Severson deal.
Boeser and Myers for Severson and ?? .
Canucks improve at RHD and shed a large chunk of salary. Devils get a young scoring winger and a RHD after Subban leaves and until Luke is ready.
I’m too lazy to look up Myers cap hit vs. Seversons . Myers is 6 ? and I think Severson is 4.5 . Saves 1.5 there and 7.5 for Boeser next year . That’s exactly what Canucks management wants to do , shed salary. Severson is a very good skater as well and that’s another want by the Canucks. Devils look like they are trying to build a massive D core with players like Hamilton Graves Bahl Shakir all over 6’4
To me makes real good sense to at least look at a deal like this?
It all depends on what the adds are on each side to make it work.

As a Vancouver fan, I would consider the idea for sure. The difficult part is figuring out the + (If Boeser is included in the deal). I could see Devils fans thinking straight across, where I would need a good futures asset from the Devils to consider it. I know this years and next years 1st are off the table, and long shot prospects don't do anything to help Vancouver out of their brutal cap position while trying to build a competitive team.

 

[Ugene Magic]

I would imagine with a new president and GM, this would be a standard practice as they near the trade deadline.

Good old JR isn't a take it to the last second kind of guy unless it's a minor deal. He likes to get things done early, up to a couple weeks before the TDL.

 

[The Kingslayer]

After the other night I don't blame them haha

 

[canuckster19]

Wonder if the Islanders would be interested in a larger deal, something along the lines of

Dobson
Clutterbuck
Chara

Boeser
Myers

We get the right d we need in Dobson plus we take back salary in Clutterbuck for the rest of the year and Chara who can help fill Myers role, Islanders get some needed scoring help in Boeser.

I honestly don't know how even this is and what needs to be balanced out, I suck at proposals.

 

[Bettman Returnz]

Wonder if the Islanders would be interested in a larger deal, something along the lines of

Dobson
Clutterbuck
Chara

Boeser
Myers

We get the right d we need in Dobson plus we take back salary in Clutterbuck for the rest of the year and Chara who can help fill Myers role, Islanders get some needed scoring help in Boeser.

I honestly don't know how even this is and what needs to be balanced out, I suck at proposals.

Why would islanders make this trade? Dobson is the best piece here.

 

[dasaybz]

As a Sabres fan there's a need for RHD I wouldn't mind a return of Myers. Let's say

Buf
Myers
'22 2nd

Van
'22 FLA 1st

I honestly hate this so much. Granted that first is going to be towards the end of the round, but giving up a first for him? Really?

 

[Canadian Canuck]

I honestly hate this so much. Granted that first is going to be towards the end of the round, but giving up a first for him? Really?

You're not giving up a first, you're literally essentially just moving down 20 spots in the draft.

 

[ManofSteel55]

Why would islanders make this trade? Dobson is the best piece here.

It's basically Dobson for Boeser and Myers long term. Still might not be worth it for the Islanders, but they are getting the 2nd and 3rd best parts, by a significant margin.

 

[Cogburn]

I'd take Myers if it meant moving a contract or two but that's what Vancouver's trying to do so I'm sure they would hate any offer I'd make lol

I mean Vlasic or Karlsson are a no go, I'd think. Is there any other contract you had in mind?

 

[elitepete]

As a Sabres fan there's a need for RHD I wouldn't mind a return of Myers. Let's say

Buf
Myers
'22 2nd

Van
'22 FLA 1st

We don't have our 2nd this year.

 

[Fatass]

This is where the term "negative value" has issues. He might not be the type of guy who can be traded for a huge haul of picks and prospects, but I'm sure teams out there would be interested in some way. It's about finding the team who offers the right fit in return. For the purposes of dumping his contract to another team, he may have negative value though. The issue for the Canucks could be that they want futures, and teams wanting Myers may be looking for the proverbial "hockey trade".

The term "negative value" to me is about whether a player (considering his contract) can return draft picks, without any retention.
Would Myers return picks? IMO, no. His trade would require salary retention and (or) taking money back. Hense, negative value.

 

[deckercky]

Could be a good fit for a rebuilding team that needs a guy to munch minutes and not get completely dominated. The return wouldn’t be great due to his contract, but I’m sure the Canucks would be happy to use the cap space elsewhere

Yeah, this is the right view. He's a poor fit for a contender, but for teams wanting a big minute player to fill in the right side at a decent cap hit, Myers is a good call. The teams looking at Myers are probably ones anticipating struggles finding free agents this offseason.

If teams don't think he's an asset, then he doesn't move - he does provide that same value to the Canucks.

I think he's an asset at $6m, but the cost would be low (think 3rd plus an expiring contract to make the cap work this season).

 

[ManofSteel55]

The term "negative value" to me is about whether a player (considering his contract) can return draft picks, without any retention.
Would Myers return picks? IMO, no. His trade would require salary retention and (or) taking money back. Hense, negative value.

I understand that many people think of it that way, but I think its a bit of an odd measuring stick considering the cap situation of so many teams, and the fact that a lot of teams wouldn't want to trade their players for picks or prospects.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Yeah, this is the right view. He's a poor fit for a contender, but for teams wanting a big minute player to fill in the right side at a decent cap hit, Myers is a good call. The teams looking at Myers are probably ones anticipating struggles finding free agents this offseason.

If teams don't think he's an asset, then he doesn't move - he does provide that same value to the Canucks.

I think he's an asset at $6m, but the cost would be low (think 3rd plus an expiring contract to make the cap work this season).

I honestly have been impressed with Myers play this year, but he does not have a decent cap hit, he is overpaid by at least 2 million.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

I honestly have been impressed with Myers play this year, but he does not have a decent cap hit, he is overpaid by at least 2 million.

That’s the right handed shot premium charge

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

That’s the right handed shot premium charge

If he were anything remotely close to a premium RHD sure

 

[Canadian Canuck]

If he were anything remotely close to a premium RHD sure

Hahahaha

 

[deckercky]

I honestly have been impressed with Myers play this year, but he does not have a decent cap hit, he is overpaid by at least 2 million.

If he were a UFA this offseason, I think he'd probably be able to find someone to pay him 2 x $6M.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

If he were a UFA this offseason, I think he'd probably be able to find someone to pay him 2 x $6M.

Maybe, Likely he get's overpaid by a million instead of 2.

That also doesn't somehow disprove that his contract sucks and is in no way a decent contract.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

I mean Vlasic or Karlsson are a no go, I'd think. Is there any other contract you had in mind?

My initial thought before really fleshing it out was Labanc and Simek but then I looked at Vancouver and didn't think they'd care for either much less both lol