Speculation: Canucks Elias Pettersson on the move? Nucks GM speaks out

[RedHawkDown]

Cozens is 24, Power is 22... both locked in under contract.
I am absolutely willing to pay that price for roster players who can contribute now and well into the future.

Power literally has a babyface still, man. We're not moving our Gold Goose for Byram.

He hasn’t been good in the NHL yet. Byram is a far better player.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Cheap is always in the eye of the beholder. I don't see any way for the Canucks to get a quality-only deal for a player with that sort of contract.

The point would be to get out of a long term 11.6 mil contract of someone you don't trust to be worth that kind of cap hit. Even that asking price would is highly unlikely to materialize. Who has that available and wants Pettersson?

So what would your offer from San Jose be then?

 

[Eegs]

Would love him in Dallas but the return would be PTSD inducing

Stankoven and Lian Bichsel

Bring Stanky back to BC

 

[JKG33]

I've been saying it for a while, Vancouver would be smart to dump his bitch ass and keep Miller, if they're trying to win a cup.

This is gunna be one of those trades where Canucks fans will be very underwhelmed with the return today. But a year or two from now people will be wondering how EP even got that bloated contract, let alone how Vancouver got a positive return

 

[tsujimoto74]

There's no deal without Cozens, and Petey is worth more than Power.

I’m not sure if he does with big drop-off in production over the last year or so. OP is a former #1 overall who already possesses very high-end offensive/transition skill and who’s flashed the ability to also play at that level defensively (though he certainly isn’t there consistently yet and doesn’t use his size the way you’d like him to). There would be risk and upside for both sides there.

E: Plus that quote from Vancouver’s GM is a pretty strong dig at Pettersson’s attitude, which I can’t imagine is helping pump up his value.

 

[zlev]

Rangers get:
Elias Pettersson
Vincent Desharnais

Canucks get:
Mika Zibanejad (50% retained)
K'Andre Miller
Brennan Othmann
2nd round pick


thoughts?

 

[Pinkfloyd]

So what would your offer from San Jose be then?

The only thing the Sharks have available to address a need like 2C and top four defense is Granlund or Wennberg and Walman or Ferraro. Clearly whichever duo you pick is not going to be sufficient and would have to be compensated with futures of a significant sort or the ability to take a dump or two with Pettersson like Desharnais and/or Joshua and/or Hoglander. I would part with futures like Musty or Chernyshov or Halttunen or Graf or Bystedt but chances are since the original choice of two now players may not be what the Canucks want, they'd need a huge package of futures to do it and then move those guys to get the answers they seek.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Petterson for Fox+?

Value squabbling aside, Vancouver isn't trading their franchise center for Fox when they already have Hughes and Hronek.

Yes, Fox is way better than Hronek. Doesn't change that Fox still will not be the #1PPQB for Vancouver, or that Vancouver's offensive D is adequate enough that they don't need to center the return for a franchise center around yet another offensive defender.

 

[Peter Griffin]

The only thing the Sharks have available to address a need like 2C and top four defense is Granlund or Wennberg and Walman or Ferraro. Clearly whichever duo you pick is not going to be sufficient and would have to be compensated with futures of a significant sort or the ability to take a dump or two with Pettersson like Desharnais and/or Joshua and/or Hoglander. I would part with futures like Musty or Chernyshov or Halttunen or Graf or Bystedt but chances are since the original choice of two now players may not be what the Canucks want, they'd need a huge package of futures to do it and then move those guys to get the answers they seek.

Yea, no chance, that’s an awful proposal. Looking at a potential Pettersson trade under the misguided viewpoint where their main goal is to “dump” Pettersson, is foolish.

 

[Frank Drebin]

That’s a pretty crazy one. Why did he re sign there long term Makes no sense. Now he can get traded anywhere.
He could be moved to Columbus.

Anywhere. Even Columbus

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Dallas should be interested.

Harley + Stankoven + 1st for Pettersson and Hoglander.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Rangers get:
Elias Pettersson
Vincent Desharnais

Canucks get:
Mika Zibanejad (50% retained)
K'Andre Miller
Brennan Othmann
2nd round pick


thoughts?

Zero interest in Zib.

 

[Frank Drebin]

Vancouver wants players not picks and prospects im guessing?

Would love to see Montreal make a move but we can only offer futures

 

[Pinkfloyd]

Yea, no chance, that’s an awful proposal. Looking at a potential Pettersson trade under the misguided viewpoint where thermir main goal is to “dump” Pettersson, is foolish.

Maybe so but Pettersson isn't going to return Vancouver what they want to continue to compete without him. They're going to end up taking much less than they expect if they do pull the trigger which is why keeping him is going to be the most likely outcome. But what you responded to also wasn't actually a proposal.

 

[JKG33]

Dallas should be interested.

Harley + Stankoven + 1st for Pettersson and Hoglander.

Dallas isn't stupid

 

[Peter Griffin]

Maybe so but Pettersson isn't going to return Vancouver what they want to continue to compete without him. They're going to end up taking much less than they expect if they do pull the trigger which is why keeping him is going to be the most likely outcome.

They’ll get players that fit better than Granlund and Ferraro, I’ll guarantee you that. Making up the difference with prospects isn’t likely to be the answer.

 

[Connor McConnor]

I'd be absolutely shocked if EP's prime wasnt his age 28-32 seasons once he's more mature, both mentally and physically. Would not want to trade a guy who at his "low" is a 85-90 point player who is solid defensively. I get that he shrinks under pressure but there's plenty of examples of Euro guys that came in a bit underdeveloped who blossom much later than NA skaters or Euro players who played in NA in junior.

 

[Nucker42]

Rangers get:
Elias Pettersson
Vincent Desharnais

Canucks get:
Mika Zibanejad (50% retained)
K'Andre Miller
Brennan Othmann
2nd round pick


thoughts?

Zib is a cap dumb even at 4 or 5 mill. So Miller and a 2nd for Petey. Need to up that to a serious offer. It’s not NHL 2010.

 

[Pinkfloyd]

They’ll get players that fit better than Granlund and Ferraro, I’ll guarantee you that. Making up the difference with prospects isn’t likely to be the answer.

You can guarantee all you like. I don't see a team out there with that available and a willingness to take that entire contract off your hands. A Pettersson deal is going to look closer to the Karlsson deal than what you're suggesting. Who even has an available top six center and top four defenseman that would want Pettersson at 11.6?

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Maybe so but Pettersson isn't going to return Vancouver what they want to continue to compete without him. They're going to end up taking much less than they expect if they do pull the trigger which is why keeping him is going to be the most likely outcome. But what you responded to also wasn't actually a proposal.

I think Pettersson will get similar to what Buffalo got for Eichel, a low return. One solid roster player and a younger one with some potential.

 

[Peter Griffin]

You can guarantee all you like. I don't see a team out there with that available and a willingness to take that entire contract off your hands. A Pettersson deal is going to look closer to the Karlsson deal than what you're suggesting. Who even has an available top six center and top four defenseman that would want Pettersson at 11.6?

Well, for one I think Buffalo would jump at a Cozens/Byram for Pettersson swap and I’d much prefer a package involving those two than what you offered.

 

[zlev]

Zib is a cap dumb even at 4 or 5 mill. So Miller and a 2nd for Petey. Need to up that to a serious offer. It’s not NHL 2010.

that's about what i thought the reaction would be. would Perreault instead of the 2nd get it done? Rangers forum thinks that would be too much.

 

[Peter Griffin]

that's about what i thought the reaction would be. would Perreault instead of the 2nd get it done? Rangers forum thinks that would be too much.

Perreault would at least make the offer interesting, otherwise it’s a big pass.

 

[Viking10]

Pettersson played just 13 playoff games in the last 4 seasons, and he looked terrible in those games.

Pettersson has 24pts in 30gp, including last years poor performance due to that knee ailment.

He was very good when we beat the cup champ Blues & took Vegas to game 7 in round 2 in 2020 being over a new ppg 200ft Center

 

[nergish]

This is legit horrific for Vancouver. Wow.

He hasn’t been good in the NHL yet. Byram is a far better player.

Meh, I'm a Canucks fan, and I'd do this easily.

Two young roster players who can contribute now (during the Quinn Hughes era), with contracts locked in going forward.

I guess Byram would be the better option if we're really trying to compete this year and next. But considering he was recently dealt for Casey Middelstadt, I just don't feel good enough about the value. But a 6'6 former 1st OA goes down a bit easier...

Pettersson is a gifted player, but he just isn't having fun playing hockey here anymore. Get him with his buddy Dahlin. Just give us workable pieces back. We're trying to compete while we still have Quinn Hughes under contract.