Confirmed with Link: Canes Sign Defenseman Jake Gardiner to 4 Year Contract

[Roboturner913]

So according to that TheHockeyGuy dude on the Youtube, Montreal offered Gardiner 3 years, $15.75 million.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

So according to that TheHockeyGuy dude on the Youtube, Montreal offered Gardiner 3 years, $15.75 million.

Ell. Oh. Ell.

 

[Srsly]

So according to that TheHockeyGuy dude on the Youtube, Montreal offered Gardiner 3 years, $15.75 million.

Would it really be that surprising he wouldn’t want to play in another Canadian hockey market? The guy was a media scapegoat who got death threats sent his way every time he made a Twitter post. If I were him I’d definitely go to Carolina before returning to Toronto or Montreal.

 

[Roboturner913]

Would it really be that surprising he wouldn’t want to play in another Canadian hockey market? The guy was a media scapegoat who got death threats sent his way every time he made a Twitter post. If I were him I’d definitely go to Carolina before returning to Toronto or Montreal.

Oh, I totally agree. It's just fun piling on Montreal at this point

 

[Svechhammer]

Would it really be that surprising he wouldn’t want to play in another Canadian hockey market? The guy was a media scapegoat who got death threats sent his way every time he made a Twitter post. If I were him I’d definitely go to Carolina before returning to Toronto or Montreal.

If you were a FA looking to win, would you want to play for Montreal or Carolina right now?

If you were a top end defensive FA looking for your best fit, would you rather be inserted into the Montreal defensive lines or the Carolina defensive lines?

The biggest nut punch of all of this is that... yeah, there are actual legitimate hockey reasons why a good player would choose Carolina over Montreal right now. And that fact really, reeeeeaaaally pisses them off

 

[Canes]

Would it really be that surprising he wouldn’t want to play in another Canadian hockey market? The guy was a media scapegoat who got death threats sent his way every time he made a Twitter post. If I were him I’d definitely go to Carolina before returning to Toronto or Montreal.

Well that and he still is guaranteed more money overall, then there are things like not having to pay Canadian income tax or Quebec provincial tax which would probably be the highest in the league.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

I wonder how many teams are going to end up with 7 team NTCs, LOL

 

[MinJaBen]

I wonder how many teams are going to end up with 7 team NTCs, LOL

24?

 

[Roboturner913]

24?

25

unless Buffalo counts, then it'll be back to 24

 

[Navin R Slavin]

I wonder how many teams are going to end up with 7 team NTCs, LOL

Why not 30?

"Fine, I'll play for THIS f***ing Canadian team, but I'll be damned if I'm playing for any OTHER f***ing Canadian team -- and if you trade me, I'm damned sure not coming back to THIS f***ing Canadian team"

 

[Navin R Slavin]

Oh, hey! That brings up an interesting question: if you sign a full NTC for Team A, and then waive to be traded to Team B, can you still be traded back to Team A?

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Oh, hey! That brings up an interesting question: if you sign a full NTC for Team A, and then waive to be traded to Team B, can you still be traded back to Team A?

I would think that if they sign the addendum to keep the NTC in place after the trade (which they always do), then you couldn't be traded back to Team A unless you waive it for them, since the NTC is now in effect with team B after the trade. Of course, I'm not @Lempo so take it with a huge grain of salt.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

Well that and he still is guaranteed more money overall, then there are things like not having to pay Canadian income tax or Quebec provincial tax which would probably be the highest in the league.

Can confirm Quebec taxes are brutal. Paid them all last year but thank god we file based off where we live and not where we work.

 

[Lempo]

I would think that if they sign the addendum to keep the NTC in place after the trade (which they always do), then you couldn't be traded back to Team A unless you waive it for them, since the NTC is now in effect with team B after the trade. Of course, I'm not @Lempo so take it with a huge grain of salt.

This would be my understanding.

The addendum thingy seems to be some kind of later evolutionary development; it's not really described in the CBA, so it's hard to be absolutely certain of matters regarding it.

CBA 11.8 says only this:

"An acquiring Club may agree to continue to be bound by the no-Trade or no-move clause, which agreement shall be evidenced in writing to the Player, Central Registry and the NHLPA, in accordance with Exhibit 3 hereof."

And even that is very confusingly said after they state that the acquiring Club is not bound by a clause that hasn't yet gone effective at the time of the transfer. So the UFA way of keeping the clause in effect through a trade made possibly by one-time waiving may be a creative development.

This is why they all are lawyers.

 

[FreshSeabass]

First look at Jake in a canes sweater

 

[Bunch of Jurcos]

I would think that if they sign the addendum to keep the NTC in place after the trade (which they always do), then you couldn't be traded back to Team A unless you waive it for them, since the NTC is now in effect with team B after the trade. Of course, I'm not @Lempo so take it with a huge grain of salt.

Unfortunately we can't all be @Lempo. The world would be a much better and funnier place.

 

[Bunch of Jurcos]

First look at Jake in a canes sweater

I like that pose. He looks like he's ready to f*** someone up and I'm here for it.

 

[Lempo]

Unfortunately we can't all be @Lempo. The world would be a much better and funnier place.

Yeah I would make a mass suicide.

 

[Navin R Slavin]

First look at Jake in a canes sweater

He looks like Sean Astin in Rudy. Are we sure he isn't 5'3"?

 

[Lempo]

First look at Jake in a canes sweater

"It was either you or Montreal, and I'm not crying inside, you're crying."

 

[AD Skinner]

If Sean Astin and Brendan Fraser did the fusion dance at the end of Encino Man

 

[Svechhammer]

First look at Jake in a canes sweater

"I must break you"

 

[Canes]

First look at Jake in a canes sweater

Now all he needs is to grow a mustache

 

[Wolfpuck]

If Sean Astin and Brendan Fraser did the fusion dance at the end of Encino Man

I regret that I have but one like to give.

 

[Znith]

Hardcore leafs fan here, take care of Gards for us.
He was much maligned by the older "bUt He dOesN't hIt" fans and media here, and primarily a scapegoat for making a few playoff mistakes, but Gardiner can flat out play. He is a great skater and possession driver, can make great tape to tape passes, excellent at zone entries, and has a pretty underrated wrist shot when he wheels into the offensive zone.
All we hear from other players is that they love him in the room too.

His downsides would be: not very physical, high risk/reward with the puck in his own zone that can lead to either a 100ft breakaway pass or sending a pizza up the middle, and sometimes his gap control isn't the greatest at preventing zone entries.

But, you have to remember that he was saddled with the likes of Nikita Zaitsev, Roman Polak, etc. for most of his time on the leafs. For some reason Babs refused to try him on the right side with Rielly even though playing random minutes together they looked great. Pairing him with a steady player like Pesce will be a really good pairing imo.

Really wish we could have offered him $4m, it's a steal, as long as that back issue from the playoffs healed up.