Confirmed with Link: Canes Sign Defenseman Jake Gardiner to 4 Year Contract

[Aurinko]

While some teams spend the whole summer negotiating one single risky and high price contract, the Canes are meanwhile gathering an army of great pound-for-pound players.

 

[Unsustainable]

While some teams spend the whole summer negotiating one single risky and high price contract, the Canes are meanwhile gathering an army of great pound-for-pound players.

We have to have the highest number of quality contracts.

 

[Aurinko]

We have to have the highest number of quality contracts.

Imo, Boston is also up there with a high quality discount team.

 

[Unsustainable]

Imo, Boston is also up there with a high quality discount team.

I think Boston’s top 4 forwards is like 20 million less in cap than Toronto’s top 4.

They definitely have excellent money puck skills.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Imo, Boston is also up there with a high quality discount team.

They do have Backes for several more years though. That’s a mistake by the current regime as well.

Overall I would agree though. They got those guys locked up before the market skyrocketed. Pastrnak can’t be happy about that...

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

They do have Backes for several more years though. That’s a mistake by the current regime as well.

Overall I would agree though. They got those guys locked up before the market skyrocketed. Pastrnak can’t be happy about that...

Actually, Backes's contract expires after next season. If the B's want to keep Krug, though, the Borg will happily take another 1st.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

Actually, Backes's contract expires after next season. If the B's want to keep Krug, though, the Borg will happily take another 1st.

Huh, you’re right, thought it had three more years not two.

But yeah, sign me up for another 1st. Our big spending year is the year after with Svech.

 

[Roboturner913]

great pound-for-pound players.

you grade players the same way I grade my womens, except in reverse

/chubbychasing

 

[Lempo]

dnuop-rof-dnuop sounds like some sort of French depravity.

 

[Aurinko]

I'm not going to pretend I understand any of this.

 

[Betelgeuse]

What are everyone's thoughts on Gards so far?

 

[Navin R Slavin]

What are everyone's thoughts on Gards so far?

He's fine.

 

[bleedgreen]

A bit better defensively than I thought he’d be, but not Dehaan level remotely obviously. I was hoping he’d be a lot more aggressive offensively, but so far he’s settled for moving the puck out of the zone quickly which is probably what we need the most from him. I wouldn’t say disappointing but I’m hoping he stands out a bit more offensively as we go. He doesn’t seem very confident moving up the ice, not like I’ve seen him in the past.

 

[DougieSmash]

Reminds me of Hamilton last year. Rod doesnt use him very much.

 

[bleedgreen]

That’s actually kinda dead on. Dougie arrived I think assuming he was going to be used a ton in all situations and he wasn’t. He looked a bit lost and trying to figure out his role. Pesce went from being our top pair guy to being the third pair guy without doing anything wrong. He looked off from that too.

Gardiner has a bit of that look to him. Not sure of things.

 

[robbieberns]

To be fair, he’s played sheltered minutes next to a Fleury on his off side. Now that we’re nearly 10 games in and TVR is back, I wouldn’t be surprised if we finally see him with Pesce after this long break.

 

[geehaad]

he’s played sheltered minutes next to a Fleury on his off side

Is this true? I can't find the site that gives stats on ice time partners, zone starts, etc.

Anyway, I would've bet money that Fleury's main partner was Edmundson.

 

[MinJaBen]

Is this true? I can't find the site that gives stats on ice time partners, zone starts, etc.

Anyway, I would've bet money that Fleury's main partner was Edmundson.

I think Edmundson’s main partner at 5v5 has been Pesce. Of course, this team likes to play more 4v5 lately, so who knows.

 

[GoldiFox]

Haydn Fleury 5v5 Ice Time:

With	TOI With
Jake Gardiner	73.11
Joel Edmundson	20.25
Brett Pesce	3.6
Dougie Hamilton	3.42
Jaccob Slavin	3.1
Trevor van Riemsdyk	2.43

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

 

[geehaad]

I’ll just show myself the door now.

But before I throw myself to the curb, where does that info come from? I tried to look it up prior to posting my reply above and couldn’t even figure out what search term to use.

 

[Roboturner913]

I don't have numbers, but I also had a general sense that Gardiner's minutes outside of PP time were more or less tied to Fleury

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I’ll just show myself the door now.

But before I throw myself to the curb, where does that info come from? I tried to look it up prior to posting my reply above and couldn’t even figure out what search term to use.

Naturalstattrick.com has it.

 

[Roboturner913]

So let's talk about Gardiner.

I wouldn't say I'm exactly disappointed at the moment, but I thought he would be a much more prominent player than he has been so far. I do like the way he skates and his breakout pass is solid, but he seems relatively uninvolved. So far it seems like his defense is miles ahead of his offense, but he's not exactly Slavin or Pesce in his own end either.

I do wonder: if they had known they were going to get Edmundson, and how well Edmundson was going to turn out, if they would've made this signing at all.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I was thinking last night how good he looked defensively, but how uninvolved he is offensively. I really think it might be a case of still getting comfortable with a new team, new partner and new system and not wanting to make mistakes. He seems to be the guy hanging back while Pesce is pinching constantly and getting in deep, which isn’t what you’d expect.

while injury played a role, it took Dougie half a season before he became the Dougie we expected. Similarly, Gardiner started the season injured and on the bottom pairing. I’ll be interested to watch Gardiner in the 2nd half of the season as he gets more comfortable.

re: Edmundson, I thought he struggled last night in our own zone. Wings were all over him on the forecheck and I think their speed was a problem for him. He’s also a UFA in a year and could go anywhere, vs having Gardiner for a 4.

 

[spockBokk]

I think Gardiner is still easing into his new role. Like others have said, I’ve been pleasantly surprised by his D-zone play. He really hasn’t been given more than 3rd pairing minutes and PP mop up work so far, so I’m not particularly worried about his offensive production. I think that will work itself out as the season progresses. Hamilton has taken the “Faulk” spot as the undisputed top offensive and PP D, rightfully so, and Gardiner is left with what’s left over, like first half 18-19 Hamilton.

I also think Gardiner wasn’t or potentially still isn’t 100% based on what was ailing him during camp. They really seemed to have eased him into the lineup, and just over the past few games, he’s finally starting playing with Pesce in a 2nd pair role.

On a side note regarding the D, I really hope they can extend Edmundson. He really rounds out their group, but they have so many guys in Clt probably capable of 3rd pair minute now, it’ll make for quite the storyline to follow this season. Anything over $4M for Edmundson is probably way too much for a guy that’s going to basically be a 3rd pair guy. He’s at $3.1M now and he’ll surely want a raise. I suppose the one thing going for the team in that regard is that despite his good defensive play and physicality, he’s one of the only Canes to yet record a point. Hard to argue you’re a $4M D if you can’t crack 15pts a year...