Confirmed with Link: Canadiens Will Pick 5th (Hughes Presser in OP) NO POLITICS

[Rapala]

I don't understand your point based on my post.

So you are not saying people are kidding themselves about certain players potential. Because that is exactly how I read it.

 

[YukonCornelius 5thOA]

No matter who the Habs pick, I heard every player in this draft wants out of Calgary.

 

[Rapala]

The interview will be the key. Mtl is known for its loaded questions. They will pummell him on his alledged lack of defensive awareness, his alledged tantrums and his political ideals. That is a certainty. Fun week to come!

Finally they will end up questioning his decision making process based on the contract he inked.
"Are you sure playing in the NHL is your dream"

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Still trying to find an argument about why is Leonard Benson or Reinbacher or Dvorshit are better than michkov.

Oh wait it's because of the future , something that nobody can prevail for anyone.

 

[Genghis Keon]

Joe Pavelski and Brad Marchand are two of the best players of the modern era. It's a bit rich to compare this prospect to them and expect to be taken seriously when you downplay other prospects' top-end ceiling. If Leonard can be Pavelski, Reinbacher can be Ryan Suter, and Smith can be, oh I dunno, you name it.

At the time of their drafts, it would be ridiculous to think Marchand and Pavelski would become the players they have become. The stars aligned and they maximized ever ounce of potential they had. Leonard, on the other hand, is a no doubt top 10 pick in a strong draft. I don't think it's unreasonable to think he has Marchand or Pavelski upside. You might not project him to be that kind of player, but I can't imagine it would be shocking for him to become that kind of guy.

Similarly, Reinbacher is a top 10 guy in a strong draft. He's got size, good skating, and produced in a pro league. Of course he could be a Ryan Suter. You might not project him to be Ryan Suter, but, knowing what we know about him, why couldn't he be a stud 2-way dman who moves the puck, tilts the ice and shuts down the other team?

Smith has crazy hands, great vision, a killer shot, and great hockey sense. The sky's the limit. Will he reach his potential? Who knows.

The draft isn't a zero sum game. Thinking Wood could be a stud, doesn't mean Benson can't be one too. It certainly doesnt mean either will be. This is a strong draft with lots of guys with lots of potential. We know some will hit and we know some will miss, but we don't know who. We also don't really know how good these guys can become, but hindsight will make it clear that obviously this guy was under appreciated and that guy had obvious overwhelming flaws.

 

[Skip Bayless]

So you are not saying people are kidding themselves about certain players potential. Because that is exactly how I read it.

No, not at all.

I'm saying that it's in Hughes best interest to keep teams below guessing. Specially if they're skipping Michkov, because if they're not getting the BPA, they might as well trade down and get one of Leonard, Reinbacher or Benson + an another asset in a trade.

If they're down to draft Michkov, then just keep the pick unless it's for a ridiculous offer.

 

[Genghis Keon]

I hope your right if we pick him but I think your overrating his playmaking and I don't see him scoring 60 goals a season to reach ppg level

You think Leonard's playmaking upside is 20 assists per year?

 

[MTL-rules]

This team seems to have a hard time at drafting BPA... we'll see at the draft but it reeks of last year Slafkovsky vibes... Leonard FFS...

 

[Hannibal]

The interview will be the key. Mtl is known for its loaded questions. They will pummell him on his alledged lack of defensive awareness, his alledged tantrums and his political ideals. That is a certainty. Fun week to come!

And we know Reinbacher failed bad Habs interview.

 

[Milhouse40]

How the plot thickens. I believe this is usually a Kings pundit:

And I was just listening to 32 thoughts podcast and EF heard that Anaheim could really take Michkov....that Verbeek is the kind of guy to not care about what people think and the outside noise

 

[Rapala]

Still trying to find an argument about why is Leonard Benson or Reinbacher or Dvorshit are better than michkov.

Oh wait it's because of the future , something that nobody can prevail for anyone.

I'm still trying to figure out what being perceived as better has to do with others players being talked about?
We are picking 5th we may not pick him. Other options need to be discussed end of story.

No, not at all.

I'm saying that it's in Hughes best interest to keep teams below guessing. Specially if they're skipping Michkov, because if they're not getting the BPA, they might as well trade down and get one of Leonard, Reinbacher or Benson + an another asset in a trade.

If they're down to draft Michkov, then just keep the pick unless it's for a ridiculous offer.

Sorry for being a Dumbo. I'm losing the thread.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

I'm still trying to figure out what being perceived as better has to do with others players being talked about?
We are picking 5th we may not pick him. Other options need to be discussed end of story.


Sorry for being a Dumbo.

Im saying that why dodge the best player at 5 if Smith and others are taken when nobody knows about the future.

 

[Player 61]

If Leonard is like

Tkachuk? Then it's a really deep Deep Draft! . I think The Michkov Interviews will make the diff.... ?​

 

[Skip Bayless]

Im saying that why dodge the best player at 5 if Smith and others are taken when nobody knows about the future.

That's a question you need to ask Geoff Molson. I think most people know he's the BPA at #5 but he is and will always be an ownership call.

 

[Rapala]

Im saying that why dodge the best player at 5 if Smith and others are taken when nobody knows about the future.

It could be as simple as Ownership with Sponsor backing said NO.

 

[morhilane]

This team seems to have a hard time at drafting BPA... we'll see at the draft but it reeks of last year Slafkovsky vibes... Leonard FFS...

Nobody knows who is the BPA on the Habs list except for the Habs management. And Slafkovsky was pretty much the consensus #1 oa by the time the draft happened.

 

[Skip Bayless]

Sorry for being a Dumbo. I'm losing the thread.

No problem, english isn't my first language, maybe I didn't express myself as clearly as I should have.

 

[HabbyGuy]

That's a question you need to ask Geoff Molson. I think most people know he's the BPA at #5 but he is and will always be an ownership call.

Me reading this right now.



If this all comes down to Hughes having the inabilty to convince Molson, we're doomed, for a plethora of reasons.

 

[Gillings]

I still don't see the problem, the habs are perched in a great spot at 5. All that's required is to take the last one standing.

It's all this unconfirmed internet speculation and discourse in these type of threads that's causing the shit show.

Michkov would be a blessing that he shows up a star player in the 4th year.

 

[Skip Bayless]

Me reading this right now.

Me watching Michkov score his 65th of the season against Boston :

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

It could be as simple as Ownership with Sponsor backing said NO.

because of what? picking a russian citizen?
They did not think about that when picking a guy that did not want to be drafted?

Sounds like they are just searching a reason to cope to avoid picking him at this point

 

[Schooner Guy]

Joe Pavelski and Brad Marchand are two of the best players of the modern era. It's a bit rich to compare this prospect to them and expect to be taken seriously when you downplay other prospects' top-end ceiling. If Leonard can be Pavelski, Reinbacher can be Ryan Suter, and Smith can be, oh I dunno, you name it.

You're the only one downplaying a prospect's ceiling by claiming Leonard doesn't have PPG upside. I only brought up Pavelski because he never ever put up a PPG season in his lengthy and terrific career.

Now you're saying Pavelski is one of the best players of the modern era even though he didn't reach your very own PPG benchmark of success. You're all over the map.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

That's a question you need to ask Geoff Molson. I think most people know he's the BPA at #5 but he is and will always be an ownership call.

Molson was not aware with the Mailloux draft , why would he for Michkov? That's why he hired Gorton because Molson knows nothing about hockey

 

[Skip Bayless]

Molson was not aware with the Mailloux draft , why Michkov would he for Michkov? That's why he hired Gorton because Molson knows nothing about hockey

Because it impacts his business in a negative way. Corporations have investor credit scores, picking a russian high in the draft goes against the interest of the world investor governance. That's the sad reality.

Having gone through the Mailloux debacle further drives the point home. Picking Michkov wont cause the public outrage Mailloux did, but it will affect the credit score of his entire estate. He wont go through round 2.

Dude is also in the order of Canada who's also balls deep into NATO.

I've covered all of this the minute the season ended and we started talking picks. But you were too busy meme'ing. You're still one of my favorite posters though.

 

[Rapala]

because of what? picking a russian citizen?
They did not think about that when picking a guy that did not want to be drafted?

Just searching for cope to avoid picking him at this point

Do we know if any of Molson's enterprises or any of our sponsers were forced to pull up stakes in Russia?
There are a lot of ramifications behind the scenes we may know nothing about. Political and otherwise.