Confirmed with Link: Canadiens Will Pick 5th (Hughes Presser in OP) NO POLITICS

[HabbyGuy]

They may have been manufactured for and by HuGo in a 5D Chess kind of way.

Maybe they really want Michkov and they prefer that the teams with earlier picks, pass.

Or maybe, they want to maximize the return for their 5th with a team like the Caps.

The fears whether real or imagined create a climate of confusion which helps GMs keep their cards close to the vest. I’m hoping this is Hughes’ game plan as the man can spin yarn with the best of ‘em.

That's all well and good, still doesn't explain how passing on him at 5 is the best idea.

I have infinite more fun actually watching (lol) rookies make their way up the line up than reading about some guy in 5 years - again even if he’s Gretzky; to each his own.

50a will be in the nhl next year or 2024.

Again where's this 5 years coming from?

 

[waitin425]

Part of me hopes Michkov goes off the board before 5 so we never have to think about what could have been.

 

[Runner77]

That's all well and good, still doesn't explain how passing on him at 5 is the best idea.

Where did Hughes say he’d pass? It’s all speculation.

 

[HabbyGuy]

Where did Hughes say he’d pass? It’s all speculation.

Agreed. As you know I believe if he's there we take him. I'm just trying to make sense of this thread from that point of view to those who oppose this thought.

 

[Runner77]

Part of me hopes Michkov goes off the board before 5 so we never have to think about what could have been.

That would certainly put an end to a lot of self-flagellation. Nothing like inevitability.

 

[Kennerback]

Where did Hughes say he’d pass? It’s all speculation.

There’s been smoke they pass. It really depends on who the source was. Is it Molson, HuGo, Bobrov or a Scout? If it’s a scout, there might still be some drama in the War Room when the final List is drawn up. We’ll see.

 

[HabbyGuy]

I have infinite more fun actually watching (lol) rookies make their way up the line up than reading about some guy in 5 years - again even if he’s Gretzky; to each his own.

50a will be in the nhl next year or 2024.

So your answer to me is, even if he's Gretzky you'd rather watch the prospect you drafted grow for 3 years instead of waiting those 3 years for "the great one" so you can be entertained? Even if they more or likely won't be in Montreal for 2 or 3 years to entertain anyway.

OK thanks for sharing.

 

[Runner77]

That's all well and good, still doesn't explain how passing on him at 5 is the best idea.

Let me try again.

I had provided several sources for the rumors a few weeks ago in post no. 4180, whose content I am reprising hereafter:

Leroux saying here that based on discussions he’s had with Habs higher ups, he’d be very surprised if they’d select him. Michkov has too many issues as per Leroux:

TVA, RDS, The Athletic, SportsNet.. etc. etc.

Just to be clear, I’m not vouching for any of these sources nor what they’re advancing. There are probably others but I do believe that some or the aggregate are pushing the narrative or are advancing that they have info that supports their claims.

Hoping this helps.

 

[HabbyGuy]

There were some media sources who

Let me try again.

I had provided several sources for the rumors a few weeks ago in post no. 4180, whose content I am reprising hereafter:

Leroux saying here that based on discussions he’s had with Habs higher ups, he’d be very surprised if they’d select him. Michkov has too many issues as per Leroux:











Just to be clear, I’m not vouching for any of these sources nor what they’re advancing. There are probably others but I do believe that some or the aggregate are pushing the narrative or are advancing that they have info that supports their claims.

Hoping this helps.

Thanks, but it will very unlikely help me to understand why the Habs might feel this way, other than as you say espouse their speculation. I'm not sure I will find a valid reason in any of these that will make sense to me as to why passing on him makes sense.

What are these issues Montreal seems to be having?

Maybe at the end of the draft they'll explain their concerns and we'll have better understanding, because as it stands now I just don't get it.

Michkov at 5 at this time to me is a no brainer.

 

[Kennerback]

Let me try again.

I had provided several sources for the rumors a few weeks ago in post no. 4180, whose content I am reprising hereafter:

Leroux saying here that based on discussions he’s had with Habs higher ups, he’d be very surprised if they’d select him. Michkov has too many issues as per Leroux:











Just to be clear, I’m not vouching for any of these sources nor what they’re advancing. There are probably others but I do believe that some or the aggregate are pushing the narrative or are advancing that they have info that supports their claims.

Hoping this helps.

Yes. There is definitely smoke. On the other hand Hugues said something along the lines, they’ll take the most talented. Forget Michkov, I think it’s a stretch that certain names linked to the Canadiens are even the most talented of the “others”. Maybe Hughes misspoke. But there’s a couple of possible suitors that Hughes will have trouble on draft day to say it’s the most talented with a straight face,

 

[Deleted member 257557]

That's all well and good, still doesn't explain how passing on him at 5 is the best idea.



Again where's this 5 years coming from?

3-5 is the going word on the street, no? 5 if he extends?

It’s absolutely defendable he’s your favorite pick, best available player, it’s a popular opinion.

I question whether it’s your place to judge if I’d rather watch a potentially exciting but lesser player struggle as of next hear and grow into the lineup, or wait 3-5 to watch a better player (maybe). My opinion can’t be that marginal, and I am pretty sure if anything Molson wants a good show as soon as possible.

 

[Runner77]

Yes. There is definitely smoke. On the other hand Hugues said something along the lines, they’ll take the most talented. Forget Michkov, I think it’s a stretch that certain names linked to the Canadiens are even the most talented of the “others”. Maybe Hughes misspoke. But there’s a couple of possible suitors that Hughes will have trouble on draft day to say it’s the most talented with a straight face,

Hughes also said in the same breath, that they’d have to weigh the geopolitical situation as well as evaluating Michkov’s talent. That’s a major caveat that turns his BPA comment into doublespeak.

There’s almost nothing salvageable from the pablum he fed the media at last week’s presser. And rightly so — it would be really foolish to tip his hand.

 

[HabbyGuy]

3-5 is the going word on the street, no? 5 if he extends?

It’s absolutely defendable he’s your favorite pick, best available player, it’s a popular opinion.

I question whether it’s your place to judge if I’d rather watch a potentially exciting but lesser player struggle as of next hear and grow into the lineup, or wait 3-5 to watch a better player (maybe). My opinion can’t be that marginal, and I am pretty sure if anything Molson wants a good show as soon as possible.

I'm not judging I'm trying to understand, there's a huge difference. I want your reasoning. It's fine for you to feel that way. I am just asking why.

As I said thanks for sharing.

 

[Deleted member 257557]

Where did Hughes say he’d pass? It’s all speculation.

He’s said noone has even seen him play in two years, let’s let them watch some vids and decide where he is on their list before crucifying the org like some are doing on here in made up inner scenarios.

I'm not judging I'm trying to understand, there's a huge difference. I want your reasoning. It's fine for you to feel that way. I am just asking why.

As I said thanks for sharing.

Cheers It might depend on people’s age too; I’m in my 50‘s now, the last 2 years of sucky hockey are a significant part of the years I have left lol

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

3-5 is the going word on the street, no? 5 if he extends?

It’s absolutely defendable he’s your favorite pick, best available player, it’s a popular opinion.

I question whether it’s your place to judge if I’d rather watch a potentially exciting but lesser player struggle as of next hear and grow into the lineup, or wait 3-5 to watch a better player (maybe). My opinion can’t be that marginal, and I am pretty sure if anything Molson wants a good show as soon as possible.

Leonard won't be in the nhl next year, and will very likely do 2 NCAA years. So there's only a 1 year difference between Leonard and Michkov making the nhl. Leonard will also likely take more years before becoming a top-line player, whereas Michkov is probably a near-ppg player in his rookie season.

 

[HabbyGuy]

He’s said noone has even seen him play in two years, let’s let them watch some vids and decide where he is on their list before crucifying the org like some are doing on here in made up inner scenarios.


Cheers It might depend on people’s age too; I’m in my 50‘s now, the last 2 years of sucky hockey are a significant part of the years I have left lol

I too am in my 50's and remember the good old days, I for one am tired of not being where I believe this team should rightfully be at the top of the league. I am even more tired of not having an actual superstar in our lineup. It's been way too long, and Michkov atleast theoretically represents a chance to finally have one.

It would seem silly to me to pass up on this opportunity if he's there at 5 for reasons I don't yet understand.

 

[sansabri]

Michkov's KHL team working overtime hoping some dumpy NHL org picks him so there's 'no rush' for him to cross over

 

[Runner77]

He’s said noone has even seen him play in two years, let’s let them watch some vids and decide where he is on their list before crucifying the org like some are doing on here in made up inner scenarios.

He said he saw Michkov live at an international tournament a couple of years ago. I’m certainly not crucifying Hughes — he’s doing his due diligence as far as I can tell. And I don’t think you’re doing that either but there are varying degrees of preconceived ideas by some in here.

Regardless, in the end, it’s all speculation. I don’t know for a fact that Hughes has made a decision either way.

Furthermore, Hughes has given me no reason not to trust his judgment so far, so I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt. To each his own.

 

[Deleted member 257557]

Honestly the Michkov crowd is much more passionate than I am about any prospect so I hope for y’all they draft him

Everyone’s sleeping on Heinemann anyway…

 

[26Mats]

Nick could still be effective, but he wouldn't be part of the Habs long-term plan, so it make the timetable ridiculously tight.

Losing those two years would hurt. But I still like to think long term. Just get the best talent available and enjoy the years from age 24 to hopefully somewhere between 34 and 40 that you get from that player. If they are truly a special player that would be quite a ride. Heck, we got Kovalev late in his career and it was a lot of fun watching him.

 

[Bombshell11]

Let me try again.

I had provided several sources for the rumors a few weeks ago in post no. 4180, whose content I am reprising hereafter:

Leroux saying here that based on discussions he’s had with Habs higher ups, he’d be very surprised if they’d select him. Michkov has too many issues as per Leroux:











Just to be clear, I’m not vouching for any of these sources nor what they’re advancing. There are probably others but I do believe that some or the aggregate are pushing the narrative or are advancing that they have info that supports their claims.

Hoping this helps.

Could RBC be the reason against drafting Russian players?

I don't know i'm just asking the question

 

[HabbyGuy]

Honestly the Michkov crowd is much more passionate than I am about any prospect so I hope for y’all they draft him

Everyone’s sleeping on Heinemann anyway…

This team has alot of momentum going for them right now. I love the direction the new management and coaching staff has us headed. I just want this momentum to continue via the draft and offseason. I have full faith at this time in those in charge. I just don't want them to misstep now. This pick is VERY important for all of us.

 

[Deleted member 257557]

So your answer to me is, even if he's Gretzky you'd rather watch the prospect you drafted grow for 3 years instead of waiting those 3 years for "the great one" so you can be entertained? Even if they more or likely won't be in Montreal for 2 or 3 years to entertain anyway.

OK thanks for sharing.

Sorry I had missed this one - 5 for sure I‘m not hyped for. If I knew it was 2 different story. The question today is: « the Mitch in 3-5 vs Leonard in 1-2? ». It’s like sex with the misses for the next 3 years waiting for a night with Scarlet J…

(edit - it’s been pretty « sexless » as a hab fan lately I guess anyway lol)

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Honestly the Michkov crowd is much more passionate than I am about any prospect so I hope for y’all they draft him

Everyone’s sleeping on Heinemann anyway…

He'll be the best forward we've had since i was wearing diapers

 

[HabbyGuy]

Sorry I had missed this one - 5 for sure I‘m not hyped for. If I knew it was 2 different story. The question today is: « the Mitch in 3-5 vs Leonard in 1-2? ». It’s like sex with the misses for the next 3 years waiting for a night with Scarlet J…

LOL I'm not touching your analogy.

But I honestly believe it will be 3 years max for Michkov. I see no reason why he'd extend in the KHL. It doesn't make sense to me.