Confirmed with Link: Canadiens Will Pick 5th (Hughes Presser in OP) NO POLITICS

[ReHabs]

Yet you think Michkov scoring Michigan goals is translatable?

Is that all Michkov does?

 

[waffledave]

Is that all Michkov does?

There is hardly any video of him doing anything else.

 

[Pazucha]

Dvorsky carried Slovakia into the semis this year and was involved in about 90% of the goals, pre draft KK was all upside he hadn't shown anything special offensively neither. He was able to produce but never dominated. He got pushed on us by people in the know and quickly the fan base accepted him as the pick.

Dvorsky dominated the U18s and his complete game is just a plus, I'd easily take Dvorsky before KK if I had the option to pick one in their respective draft years.

Both Dvorsky and Michkov played in Hlink-Gretzky cup (2021)

1. Michkov - 13pts
2. Dvorsky - 12 pts
5. Slafkovsky - 9pts

 

[WeThreeKings]

2 points

Read the hockey news on my flight and some scouts think Leonard has more upside than Smith

The other point
Has anyone mentioned just taking Michkov at 5 and being done with this regime if they and others pass?

 

[ReHabs]

There is hardly any video of him doing anything else.

I guess that settles it then. Russian Rob Schremp, better not pick him.

 

[le_sean]

Yeah to be fair the Michkov video was from a couple years ago, and the D on these highlights leaves alot to be desired to say the least. However while watching the video posted about Leonard the other day with his highlights from the U-18s, I couldn't help to wonder does anyone know how to play D anymore? It's quite shocking to me.

Some of the passes here by Leonard are incredible. He really has great on-ice awareness and underrated skill.

 

[le_sean]

I hope you're right , I could live with michkov become worse than Leonard etc. - I don't see it happening but it would be OK because we took the obviously better prospect and he got passed.

If they take Leonard and to nobody's surprise Michkov ends up better, it'll be a laughing stock.

I hope they don't overthink this, lots of Russians still in the league and you have at least a 2 year wait with most of the options at 5

I don’t think it would be a laughing stock because you’re getting a very good player.

Let’s say it was the 2018 draft, but today. Carolina, because of similar issues, take Brady Tkachuk instead of Svechnikov. Are they unhappy? Svechnikov is clearly the better player but Brady is really good in his own right.

 

[Skip Bayless]

Some of the passes here by Leonard are incredible. He really has great on-ice awareness and underrated skill.

His play off the puck both in offensive and defensive situations is elite. You want a possession team? You draft guys like Leonard.

 

[Vachon23]

Mine is...

Michkov 100 percent.

I am still of the belief if Michkov is there at 5, Hughes is far too bright not to pick him. I will wager all my "V-CASH" with anyone interested in taking that bet.

Edit is V-cash still a thing on here?

I’m taking that bet (or any bet)

MTL are not taking Michkov

Michkov will end better than Leonard for sure. The question is how much better. Better but Leonard's still a big contributor or embarassingly better?

There is NOTHING sure ….

 

[le_sean]

His play off the puck both in offensive and defensive situations is elite. You want a possession team? You draft guys like Leonard.

Assuming Michkov is off the table, Leonard to me is the guy a team would be most disappointed about passing on 5 years down the road.

 

[Vachon23]

All these people acting like it would be embarrassing, unforgivable, unconscionable to pass on Michkov... who are so convinced he will be a superstar... what are you basing this on? How many people here have seen him play last year? How many internet scouts have? How many NHL scouts even?

The funniest, it’s that those who are dramatic about Habs not taking Michkov and saying Leonard is only a 50 pts player are those who didn’t watch a single game of any prospect

 

[David Suzuki]

There is hardly any video of him doing anything else.

it’s very easy to find videos of michkov playing lol

 

[26Mats]

The 2023 draft is not the time to get a "good" player. It's the time to get a franchise player.

We should have tried to finish worse than we did, and now I'm almost certain we'll be taking a decent prospect over a gamebreaking talent.

The Habs always bring it on themselves.

It would have taken trading vets Matheson, Anderson, and Savard to tank. Management decided to keep them around as part of the on and off ice leadership/mentorship group. It us what it is.

The thing is, if we draft Michkov, we get our top tier/generational talent, AND keep the leadership vets.

 

[rahad]

I hope you're right , I could live with michkov become worse than Leonard etc. - I don't see it happening but it would be OK because we took the obviously better prospect and he got passed.

If they take Leonard and to nobody's surprise Michkov ends up better, it'll be a laughing stock.

I hope they don't overthink this, lots of Russians still in the league and you have at least a 2 year wait with most of the options at 5

Is not 2 years of wait. Is 3 years of wait. His contract end in the 2025-2026 season. He will be with us in the 2026-2027 season as a 22 years player. I would still take him. We would have another good draft in 2024.

I could understand him wanting to draft another player. Habs would want to make the playoff in the 2025 or 2026 season.

 

[Vachon23]

Is not 2 years of wait. Is 3 years of wait. His contract end in the 2025-2026 season. He will be with us in the 2026-2027 season as a 22 years player.

We don’t know that…

And that’s part of the problem

 

[26Mats]

All these people acting like it would be embarrassing, unforgivable, unconscionable to pass on Michkov... who are so convinced he will be a superstar... what are you basing this on? How many people here have seen him play last year? How many internet scouts have? How many NHL scouts even?

The funniest, it’s that those who are dramatic about Habs not taking Michkov and saying Leonard is only a 50 pts player are those who didn’t watch a single game of any prospect

Let's face it, we haven't had elite talent since Lafleur. We've barely had real all star talent.

Nick and Cole may be great, and I think they will be. But will they change as challenge for top or top 5 player in the league.

It's this strong desire for a superstar that leads to irrational interest in Michkov. If we were picking first, such a person who hasn't seen Bedard would have the same emotional reaction to the possibility of getting Bedard.

Michkov has been hyped up by many for his all time great performances at international tournaments and in the KHL at such a young age. These are facts.

Given these facts and Hab fans longing for a superstar, I don't think you can fault fans' mania for Michkov. I have it. But I know it's irrational, emotional. I'll be ecstatic if we draft him, that we have the possibility of something special. But if we don't I'll hope we get another Caufield/Guhle/McDonagh/Sergachev level piece, and just wait and see if the professionals who are supposed to know what they're doing are able to deliver. I.e. I'll have a very rational mindset to the pick, even if I'll be emotionally disappointed at first. I'll get over the emotions.

 

[Vachon23]

Let's face it, we haven't had elite talent since Lafleur. We've barely had real all star talent.

Nick and Cole may be great, and I think they will be. But will they change as challenge for top or top 5 player in the league.

It's this strong desire for a superstar that leads to irrational interest in Michkov. If we were picking first, such a person who hasn't seen Bedard would have the same emotional reaction to the possibility of getting Bedard.

Michkov has been hyped up by many for his all time great performances at international tournaments and in the KHL at such a young age. These are facts.

Given these facts and Hab fans longing for a superstar, I don't think you fault fans mania for Michkov. I have it. But I know it's irrational, emotional. I'll be ecstatic if we draft him, that we have the possibility of something sd special. But if we don't I'll hope we get another Caufield/Guhle/McDonagh/Sergachev level piece, and just wait and see if the professionals who are supposed to know what they're doing are able to deliver. I.e. I'll have a very rational mindset to the puck, even if I'll be emotionally disappointed at first. I'll get over the emotions.

The best forward I ever saw in a Habs jersey is probably Alex Kovalev so I want a superstar as much as anybody here.

But they are many things with Michkov that we need to considered that goes outside of the hockey player himself and it doesn’t mean Leonard and Reinbacher are not solid players that can help us as much as Michkov can

 

[Saundies]

Let's face it, we haven't had elite talent since Lafleur. We've barely had real all star talent.

Nick and Cole may be great, and I think they will be. But will they change as challenge for top or top 5 player in the league.

It's this strong desire for a superstar that leads to irrational interest in Michkov. If we were picking first, such a person who hasn't seen Bedard would have the same emotional reaction to the possibility of getting Bedard.

Michkov has been hyped up by many for his all time great performances at international tournaments and in the KHL at such a young age. These are facts.

Given these facts and Hab fans longing for a superstar, I don't think you can fault fans' mania for Michkov. I have it. But I know it's irrational, emotional. I'll be ecstatic if we draft him, that we have the possibility of something special. But if we don't I'll hope we get another Caufield/Guhle/McDonagh/Sergachev level piece, and just wait and see if the professionals who are supposed to know what they're doing are able to deliver. I.e. I'll have a very rational mindset to the pick, even if I'll be emotionally disappointed at first. I'll get over the emotions.

Exactly, it's about elite FORWARD talent.

Let's face it, I've been a diehard fan since I've been born. During that time and being sentient (actually remembering the players play), our best forward scorer has been Alex Kovalev. I love the guy a ton, but he wasn't near a top 10-20 guy in the league.

You look around the league and some teams have 2-3 of these guys who are leading the league in points, and you remember the Habs haven't had any of these players in years.

I'm growing kind of apathetic with the whole "collective offense" mentality. I want a superstar.

 

[rahad]

We don’t know that…

And that’s part of the problem

We do know..... His contract end in 2026. We don't know if he will break his contract or not. I'm ready to wait 3 years for a elite player. Would be happy, if he can break it and come in 2 years. If habs could buy out his last year, it will be great.

If his contract has only for one year. He would have gone second overall.

 

[Vachon23]

We do know..... His contract end in 2026. We don't know if he will break his contract or not. I'm ready to wait 3 years for a elite player. Would be happy, if he can break it and come in 2 years. If habs could buy out his last year, it will be great.

If his contract has only for one year. He would have gone second overall.

We don’t know if he’s coming after the 3 years.. that’s one of the main problem with him and why he’s probably not going to be take in the top 10

If everyone was sure that Michkov would be in the NHL in 26, he would be a top 3 pick

 

[waitin425]

The thing with Michkov coming in 2026 is it gives us time to continue to grow and draft.

By that time, we will be ready to not just make the playoffs but actually compete for the Stanley Cup. It will be a huge talent infusion at just the right moment. Of course it could fail miserably, but I suspect it won't. Michkov is closest thing to Bedard in this draft and if we get him at 5 it is an absolute steal.

In 2026...

Suzuki is at his peak
Caufield at his peak
Dach at his peak
PLD at his peak or just past it
Slaf has fully formed
Guhle is at his peak
Hutson is just entering his peak years
Mailloux just entering his peak years
2024 1st (assuming it is a top 10) is potentially beginning their 2nd or third year in the NHL.
2025 1st (if top 10) could be on the scene

Enter Michkov to that lineup.

We have a chance to build a pipeline of talent that could not just set us up for the Suzuki et al years. But years following them.

I know I am an eternal optimist and rarely poo poo around here....but I can't help but look at the lineup above and be immensely excited.

 

[SwiftyHab]

 

[Vachon23]

The thing with Michkov coming in 2026 is it gives us time to continue to grow and draft.

By that time, we will be ready to not just make the playoffs but actually compete for the Stanley Cup. It will be a huge talent infusion at just the right moment. Of course it could fail miserably, but I suspect it won't. Michkov is closest thing to Bedard in this draft and if we get him at 5 it is an absolute steal.

In 2026...

Suzuki is at his peak
Caufield at his peak
Dach at his peak
PLD at his peak or just past it
Slaf has fully formed
Guhle is at his peak
Hutson is just entering his peak years
Mailloux just entering his peak years
2024 1st (assuming it is a top 10) is potentially beginning their 2nd or third year in the NHL.
2025 1st (if top 10) could be on the scene

Enter Michkov to that lineup.

We have a chance to build a pipeline of talent that could not just set us up for the Suzuki et al years. But years following them.

I know I am an eternal optimist and rarely poo poo around here....but I can't help but look at the lineup above and be immensely excited.

And what if Michkov arrive in 2032 ?

 

[Garnet76]

And what if Michkov arrive in 2032 ?

What if he buys out the last year of his deal and coming over in 2 years? Anyone can play the "What If" game.

 

[HomaridII]

Craig's List: Plenty of intrigue surrounding Matvei Michkov ahead of NHL Draft | TSN

Connor Bedard is the runaway favourite to be taken first overall by the Blackhawks on June 28 in Nashville but don’t be surprised if Matvei Michkov ends up being the biggest talking point.

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