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jrom said:
Actual media work on Michkov with interview with Michkov skill coach + teammate that is a former QMJHL player. New info I didn’t see anywhere else.

This is very positive for drafting Michkov but I don’t know how some of the emo Habs fans will react: more threats to quit if not drafted or more despair since it means less chances to get him at #5.

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Wow, thanks you for this find ... Amazing interview.

With all thoses answers from the SKA development coach, Michkov will not be available at 5 for us...

The way he talk about Michkov put him right behind Bedard at 2... Now the question is who will have the guts to draft him before Fantilli and Carlson (and maybe Smith)...
 
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jrom said:
Actual media work on Michkov with interview with Michkov skill coach + teammate that is a former QMJHL player. New info I didn’t see anywhere else.

This is very positive for drafting Michkov but I don’t know how some of the emo Habs fans will react: more threats to quit if not drafted or more despair since it means less chances to get him at #5.

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Excellent article by a reporter who is building a solid pedigree, one Anthony Martineau. Thanks for posting the link, which I had been reading at length before and figured someone would reference.

I’ll just reprise the Twitter blurb from the above link:



Martineau, as he often does, delves deep into a subject and will seek to debunk rumors. He does so here with the great quotes he’s obtained and by giving examples of how other Russian players have acceded to the NHL.

The only issue he has not tackled with enough emphasis and that Twitter users have flagged in their responses to him is how the current geopolitical situation may have ramnifications that are not foreseeable. But, for the rest, he debunks a lot of rumors about Michkov like his work ethic and attitude, which look to be exemplary.
 
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Runner77 said:
Excellent article by a reporter who is building a solid pedigree, one Anthony Martineau. Thanks for posting the link, which I had been reading at length before and figured someone would reference.

I’ll just reprise the Twitter blurb from the above link:



Martineau, as he often does, delves deep into a subject and will seek to debunk rumors. He does so here with the great quotes he’s obtained and by giving examples of how other Russian players have acceded to the NHL.

The only issue he has not tackled with enough emphasis and that Twitter users have flagged in their responses to him is how the current geopolitical situation may have ramnifications that are not foreseeable. But, for the rest, he debunks a lot of rumors about Michkov like his work ethic and attitude, which look to be exemplary.
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For those that want to read in English, someone on Twitter translated most quotes.
 
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Estimated_Prophet said:
There are no Habs insiders.......you will capture and domesticate a sasquatch before you ever get a glimpse of a Habs insider talking about draft strategy prior to the draft.

Seriously though, they don't exist.

Bloggers, journalists, ex players etc are not insiders.

I am not 100% sold that I want Michkov but if it finally puts an end to this yearly narrative then that gets me all the way there!


I will also chime in on the "star "vs "superstar" Royal Rumble of Subjectivity match.....imo a star is a player who is a perennial all star but is not a perennial candidate for MVP...a superstar is a perennial candidate for MVP. Generational players are the perennial favourite to actually be the MVP.

Example:

Star = Pavelski, Marchand, Backstrom, Aho, Weber
Super Star = Mckinnon, Yzerman, Sakic, Hull, Pronger
Generational = McDavid, Crosby, Lemieux, Gretzky, Orr

I know that the MVP is the Hart Trophy but MVP is more universal and I wanted to be clear in my meaning. There would need to be some grace given to Goalies and D as they don't always get the recognition that they should for a Hart, especially defencemen.

That's all for my opinion, take it or leave it lol.
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Thank you. Finally someone with an understanding that Robertson is not a superstar.

Sorinth said:
It's unlikely the Habs even know yet whether they would take Michkov or not so whatever an insider says is meaningless at this point.
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I agree. I’m just saying what Basu and Godin have said.
 
jrom said:
Since best is by definition subjective don’t worry too much
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We can fix more objective criterias to make this a formal process. Either stat wise or in the redo on NHL.com of the draft after 24 months. I really don’t feel I’m going out on a limb. It’s the easiest gamble I’ve made in my life.
 
jrom said:
Actual media work on Michkov with interview with Michkov skill coach + teammate that is a former QMJHL player. New info I didn’t see anywhere else.

This is very positive for drafting Michkov but I don’t know how some of the emo Habs fans will react: more threats to quit if not drafted or more despair since it means less chances to get him at #5.

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This should put an end to the sensationalism and fearmongering.

What are they gonna come up with now?
 
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Ozymandias said:
This should put an end to the sensationalism and fearmongering.

What are they gonna come up with now?
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Not if you read the Twitter users who responded to Martineau.

Realistically, none of the people he interviewed could have given any assurances about the player’s eventual freedom to move once his KHL contract is up other than saying that the KHL club would not stand in his way.

It could well be that Martineau was told that the interviewees would not discuss any geopolitical aspect as a condition of conducting their interviews. Furthermore, even if they had broached the topic, it’s not something that anyone in their position is in authority to know. For the rest, as it concerns Michkov individually, it was a glowingly positive account.
 
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Ozymandias said:
This should put an end to the sensationalism and fearmongering.

What are they gonna come up with now?
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Depends who’s looking for immediate help and who’s ready to wait a little.

Top 3 will most probably forgo selecting him as those teams are probably looking for players to step in this season or the next but at 4-5-6-7-8, you’re more then likely waiting 3yrs anyways so might as well go for the generational Russian talent!!

BenchBrawl said:
f***ing idiots management should have tanked harder
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Tank to the bottom?

That team did not win the lottery and neither did the 2nd last team and for all we know, Smith and Michkov become better NHLers then both Carlsson and Fantilli.

I say let shit play out and let’s come to conclusions later
 
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Runner77 said:
Excellent article by a reporter who is building a solid pedigree, one Anthony Martineau. Thanks for posting the link, which I had been reading at length before and figured someone would reference.

I’ll just reprise the Twitter blurb from the above link:



Martineau, as he often does, delves deep into a subject and will seek to debunk rumors. He does so here with the great quotes he’s obtained and by giving examples of how other Russian players have acceded to the NHL.

The only issue he has not tackled with enough emphasis and that Twitter users have flagged in their responses to him is how the current geopolitical situation may have ramnifications that are not foreseeable. But, for the rest, he debunks a lot of rumors about Michkov like his work ethic and attitude, which look to be exemplary.
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I liked hearing about his mindset and attitude, it aligns with his elite results on the ice.

Good vibes.
 
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NewEraGM said:
As I mentioned , for me, there are 10 or so superstars in the league. Where you draw the line between star and superstar is up to each person but I don’t think a league can have 30 superstars. So for me, the 10 in superstar category are : McDavid, Draisilt, Mackinnon, Makar, Matthews, Kucherov, Tkachuk, Pastrnak, Crosby, Ovechkin….like that’s pretty much the list. I think Robertson is in the next tier with Marner, Point, Stamkos, Rantanen, etc.

And it’s not that Robertson isn’t worthy or as good as those superstar players, it’s just more so that who do you take out of that list? Dallas has a few great stars like Robertson, Miro, Hintz and Ottinger but if you limit yourself to 10 superstars, I don’t think they have one on that list.


Obviously habs have nothing close to that. But you can’t have 20 superstars in a league. Superstar is reserved imo for the top 10, even more likely top 5 players in the league. So between Mcdavid, Makar, Draisaitl, Matthews, Mackinnon and Kucherov…who do you take out to put Robertson in?

It’s a subjective line as to where you differentiate superstar vs star. I think Robertson is at the high end of the star category along with players like Marner, Rantanen, Point, etc.
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Wyatt Johnston is going to be very good.

Possibly Robertson good.
 
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Runner77 said:
Excellent article by a reporter who is building a solid pedigree, one Anthony Martineau. Thanks for posting the link, which I had been reading at length before and figured someone would reference.

I’ll just reprise the Twitter blurb from the above link:



Martineau, as he often does, delves deep into a subject and will seek to debunk rumors. He does so here with the great quotes he’s obtained and by giving examples of how other Russian players have acceded to the NHL.

The only issue he has not tackled with enough emphasis and that Twitter users have flagged in their responses to him is how the current geopolitical situation may have ramnifications that are not foreseeable. But, for the rest, he debunks a lot of rumors about Michkov like his work ethic and attitude, which look to be exemplary.
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There is a nice article in LaPresse today from a senior reporter saying they Bettman is basically groveling in front of Russia (with the conciliatory stance vs pride jersey) and that Russians are trying to use sports to re-legitimize themselves e.g. it would be in Russia’s interests to use hockey as a tool to reintegrate the world.

That said it would only mean someone else will draft him before us lol

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With more positive reports coming out on Michkov, this also increases the chances of SJ to pick him at 4.

Overall, we should be happy because even though we have more chances of picking Michkov, it also means that we have less chances of reaching at 5.

I'd say the more this goes, our pick likely is Smith and I think the majority of us would be happy with it.
 
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Runner77 said:
Not if you read the Twitter users who responded to Martineau.

Realistically, none of the people he interviewed could have given any assurances about the player’s eventual freedom to move once his KHL contract is up other than saying that the KHL club would not stand in his way.

It could well be that Martineau was told that the interviewees would not discuss any geopolitical aspect as a condition of conducting their interviews. Furthermore, even if they had broached the topic, it’s not something that anyone in their position is in authority to know. For the rest, as it concerns Michkov individually, it was a glowingly positive account.
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Well...If you are in Russia.......better shut up after about Russia and never say anything bad and even then, saying nothing at all is always the best options
 
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