Confirmed with Link: Canadiens Will Pick 5th (Hughes Presser in OP) NO POLITICS

[Lafleurs Guy]

I don't know how much it's been brought up on this board but there's a rumor going around that he's close to signing a 2 year deal with SKA so instead of 3 years from now it would be 5. No clue how true it is but if it is he will drop for sure imo.

Yeeuck

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

I agree but it's also not crazy to think that a small winger that doesn't have great speed whose flashy with his dangles on a larger ice surface might have trouble adjusting to the NHL where there's less time and space, and where he has to go up against bigger/stronger defenceman who are much harder to dangle around.

Hasn't the KHL transited to NHL sized rinks since 2019? They already had quite a few before 2019. On top of that, they had a few rinks under NHL size.

Pretty sure Michkov will be fine on NHL rinks.

 

[Whitesnake]

Id put Dvo and Redenbacher before Moore. For NHL potential.

And it's fine with me. You could totally be right. Though, my point is that Moore had the stats he had without Leonard and Perreault. Though some will say that Eiserman isn't too shabby himself. and speed kills so...that's why I have him ahead.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

I don't know how much it's been brought up on this board but there's a rumor going around that he's close to signing a 2 year deal with SKA so instead of 3 years from now it would be 5. No clue how true it is but if it is he will drop for sure imo.

Thankfuly habs should have the inside scoop.

 

[yianik]

I’d buy this except:

We played an inferior player with the same flaws in this spot.

Not only did Chuck produce when used as a number one but the entire team’s offense went way up.

Our coach was an idiot.

Nobody would mistake CC for Bergeron - hence the offense only example - but he was a talented scorer who was infinitely better than DD.

Therrien was so focused on what players couldn’t do that he forgot about their strengths. He didn’t understand skill at all and wanted everyone to play like Prust. Why he felt that DD was a better fit on the first is beyond reason. It was the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen.

MT wanted Price to decide the games, and ti do that meant no odd man rushes against, and to do that keep it safe in the neutral zone.

DD would dump the puck in or pass it up, strictly north- south. No stick handling around opponents. DD only tried moves in the O zone.

Guys like Eller, Chucky, PK had east-west components to their games and MT hated it.

 

[Kennerback]

And it's fine with me. You could totally be right. Though, my point is that Moore had the stats he had without Leonard and Perreault. Though some will say that Eiserman isn't too shabby himself. and speed kills so...that's why I have him ahead.

Moore’s speed is incredible and opens up lots of ice. I just don’t think he has the hands of the 3 first liners.

 

[Habs]

would you guys do Cole and #5 to Anaheim for #2? Cole and his buddy are reuninted, and we can't seem to handle contracts anyways.

Its Tuesday, come at me.

 

[salbutera]

I heard the same thing. I believe it was Stu Cowan of the Gazette on the radio. I also heard a rumour that his father was encouraging him to go to the NHL before his mysterious death.

I believe this is where it’s coming from Stu Cowan speculating on Marinaro’s podcast a couple of weeks back re:Michkov

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[NORiculous]

If the Habs don’t want Michkov and he drops to 5, maybe trade the pick to the Yotes for Cooley. I’d rather Cooley then Reinbacher. Cooley would probably turn pro if traded to the Habs.

Just a thought. Trying to find alternatives to Reinbacher. Maybe trade both 1st picks with Harris and get Cooley and Keller. If Dvorak doesn’t have negative value, I’d trow him in the trade as well.

 

[The Last Red]

If the Habs don’t want Michkov and he drops to 5, maybe trade the pick to the Yotes for Cooley. I’d rather Cooley then Reinbacher. Cooley would probably turn pro if traded to the Habs.

Just a thought. Trying to find alternatives to Reinbacher. Maybe trade both 1st picks with Harris and get Cooley and Keller. If Dvorak doesn’t have negative value, I’d trow him in the trade as well.

Even if the Habs want Michkov I would trade the 5th pick to Arizona for Cooley but Arizona would never do that.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

MT wanted Price to decide the games, and ti do that meant no odd man rushes against, and to do that keep it safe in the neutral zone.

DD would dump the puck in or pass it up, strictly north- south. No stick handling around opponents. DD only tried moves in the O zone.

Guys like Eller, Chucky, PK had east-west components to their games and MT hated it.

Or it was personal for him. And I think that’s actually closer to the truth.

End of the day we can only speculate on the stupidity of the decision. There certainly wasn’t any real logic to it. He was the worst coach in the league.

 

[salbutera]

MT wanted Price to decide the games, and ti do that meant no odd man rushes against, and to do that keep it safe in the neutral zone.

DD would dump the puck in or pass it up, strictly north- south. No stick handling around opponents. DD only tried moves in the O zone.

Guys like Eller, Chucky, PK had east-west components to their games and MT hated it.

MT like Vigneault, Julien and the rest of the Quebec coaches of that era were Lemaire disciples - play safe & jump on opposition errors vs attack mindset

Remember, it was Lemaire who forced Lafleur into retirement because he couldn’t effectively execute neutral zone trap

 

[yianik]

Or it was personal for him. And I think that’s actually closer to the truth.

End of the day we can only speculate on the stupidity of the decision. There certainly wasn’t any real logic to it. He was the worst coach in the league.

You would think one of the guys who would like him is Andrew Shaw, but no, thought he was a "douche bag" who showed no respect to the players. Not a good person.

 

[salbutera]

Or it was personal for him. And I think that’s actually closer to the truth.

End of the day we can only speculate on the stupidity of the decision. There certainly wasn’t any real logic to it. He was the worst coach in the league.

Selective memory - Galchenyuk in 15-16 season took off post New Year when Habs were already out of it.

AKos & Galchenyuk were the lowest hockey IQ players I have ever seen on the Habs - redefined the term mental midget

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

would you guys do Cole and #5 to Anaheim for #2? Cole and his buddy are reuninted, and we can't seem to handle contracts anyways.

Its Tuesday, come at me.

Remove the #5. Cole accelerates their rebuild. It can be Caufield+, but not the 5th.

Selective memory - Galchenyuk in 15-16 season took off post New Year when Habs were already out of it.

AKos & Galchenyuk were the lowest hockey IQ players I have ever seen on the Habs - redefined the term mental midget

He started the first 20 or so games of 16-17 at PPG and the team was in the thick of things. I wonder how i should qualify someone who constantly uses bad arguments that are easily refuted.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Even if the Habs want Michkov I would trade the 5th pick to Arizona for Cooley but Arizona would never do that.

Cooley is media shy. Montreal is not the place for him.

 

[Runner77]

would you guys do Cole and #5 to Anaheim for #2? Cole and his buddy are reuninted, and we can't seem to handle contracts anyways.

Its Tuesday, come at me.

Too rich for me. Cole and a lesser piece.

Otherwise if Cole and the 5th, then get another piece from the Ducks.

 

[HabbyGuy]

would you guys do Cole and #5 to Anaheim for #2? Cole and his buddy are reuninted, and we can't seem to handle contracts anyways.

Its Tuesday, come at me.

While Fantilli is definitely a better prospect than Smith at the C position and would take him over Will every single time, I'm not thinking the difference between the 2 is a Caufield. Cole is a rare sniper and someone I'd rather keep on my team.

Caufield + Smith > Fantilli.

Atleast for me. This is a team that needs to be adding more offense not subtracting from it.

If you could get Fantilli without Caufield then it would make more sense. IMO

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Selective memory - Galchenyuk in 15-16 season took off post New Year when Habs were already out of it.

Right.

Galchenyuk’s per minute numbers were head and shoulders above everyone else’s including Max. And yet our idiot coach kept him on the third line. Meanwhile we sunk to the bottom of the standings and couldn’t score for our lives. MT took all kinds of heat for this.

We fell out of it and THEN he put in Chuck. Chuck went on to be a top ten score in the NHL for the rest of the year.

Dumbest shit ever. Therrien is a complete moron.

How you think you’re helping his case here is beyond me.

AKos & Galchenyuk were the lowest hockey IQ players I have ever seen on the Habs - redefined the term mental midget

And yet he was our best scorer. And by far our best center. And yet instead of playing him (or trading him) we chose to play a center who was inferior in every way.

Totally stupid and inexcusable.

Anyways - this is the draft thread. Let’s move on. I’ll be happy to rip the shit out of Therrien in another thread.

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

5 actually seems like a great spot to be picking in this draft. Outside of Bedard all these guys have slight question marks. It cannot be denied that Slaf was more impressive at WCs than either Fantilli or Carlsson have been. Carlsson is slow and and Fantilli doesn’t have great IQ. Michkov has the Russian factor and is small, Smith who isn’t much interested in defending, and then you’ve got Dvorsky who didn’t produce as you’d like in his league. I think these 5 guys are closer than we may have thought.

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

would you guys do Cole and #5 to Anaheim for #2? Cole and his buddy are reuninted, and we can't seem to handle contracts anyways.

Its Tuesday, come at me.

No. There’s no need to trade away our best young player who projects to be a perpetual top ten scorer. We finally got one - I don’t want to trade him away. And trading him sets back our own rebuild.

That’s not to say Fantilli won’t be great (or better than CC) but I’m not a fan of trading away great young players. And if we were going to do that I’d much rather trade Suzuki.

And there’s no way I’d include the 5th. That would be a rip-off trade.

 

[Habsfan18]

It’s clear to me that one of the following will be drafted by us:

Leo Carlsson
Will Smith
David Reinbacher
Ryan Leonard
Dalibor Dvorsky

I’d be shocked with anyone else. It’ll almost surely be one of the above.

If Carlsson is there you run to the podium. Smith would be a real nice, and Leonard is growing on me daily.

Dvorsky would be a disappointment, though maybe he’d surprise and be a real solid two-way player. On draft day though, I wouldn’t be happy.

If I were a betting man, though, and Carlsson-Smith go 3-4…Reinbacher is our guy.

 

[waffledave]

Reinbacher at 5 would be a huge disappointment. The draft to get a dman is next year. This year we have a shot at a top line center. How do we keep boofing these chances?

 

[Lafleurs Guy]

Reinbacher at 5 would be a huge disappointment. The draft to get a dman is next year. This year we have a shot at a top line center. How do we keep boofing these chances?

Agreed. 5 great forwards. Take one.

 

[ZUKI]

Honestly?
I couldn't agree more
We're not just any city when it comes to this
There's this feeling that's popped up the passed few years that "MTL doesn't like Russians" which really isn't the case at ALL
T'was Marc Bergevin that didn't like Russians.

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