Confirmed with Link: Canadiens Will Pick 5th (Hughes Presser in OP) NO POLITICS

[Habs]

someone needs to get Craig Button help and into a new career ASAP, he's gone full moron.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Only one I can recall off the top of my head, maybe posters here recall others

Maybe but it doesn’t change the fact it rarely happens. The risk to the team trading down is huge and not worth the menial extra they get for it. With all 3 1st picks essentially locked in, Habs premium to grab the 4th that may fall to them anyways, and SJs losing the option to trade pick who they want makes it not worth it for either team as the 3-5 picks are all relatively equally ranked for a variety of reasons.

The top 5 is essentially locked in at this point. No one is trading down.

 

[JohnTheBaptist]

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someone needs to get Craig Button help and into a new career ASAP, he's gone full moron.

Isn't Reinbacher the top D in this draft?

 

[SlafySZN]

Isn't Reinbacher the top D in this draft?

Not according to Button.

He likes ASP a lot

 

[JHabs]

Smith at 6? hooo weeee

 

[sampollock]

if smith falls to 5, Kent won't pass him up

 

[Gustave]

Smith at 6? hooo weeee

Sale at 7. Sure.

 

[Sterling Archer]

Button doing Button things.

 

[OnTheRun]

Well he managed to shove 2 Dman in the top10 and none of them are Popcorn, so A+ for the creativity.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Smith at 6? hooo weeee

 

[Runner77]

Hughes expects this to be a 3 year process. Nobody should be planning to make the playoffs next year.


BPA at the moment of your pick? Teams do work over years to develop their list. BPA is BPA. They go up and choose the next guy on their list. It is a name.

If there was no BPA, how are all the scouts polled by BobbyMac offering consensus picks that are mostly reflective of drafting outcomes? Osmosis? Back door window accessed in every team’s cloud storage? The divinatory arts?

Truly baffling.

 

[The Great Weal]

if smith falls to 5, Kent won't pass him up

I wouldn't be surprised if he drafts someone else instead.

 

[ZUKI]

Exactly. Russians love Montreal and playing for such history would definitely attract Michkov with so many legends having played here like Markov, Kovalev etc. plus it’s Canada, which he’d probably actually prefer right now. Big market, be an instant star and knows they’re not going to be bottom feeders forever like the other teams. Also, gets to play for St. Louis, homerun no brainer pick imo only question is stupid Molson

Molson is a busyness man, and a good one. He will take the time to study the impacts of drafting a Russian while his country is in war .
he loves hockey since he’s skid, but he isn’t going to act as a fan like you that only consider his own passion without any other regards in this particular situation . The stupid here isn’t him

 

[Deleted member 257557]

Smith's points this season
Real fun player

Nhl written all over him. Habs would be lucky to have Smith and Hutson on top of Caufield, US are developing skilled players, these guys are fun to watch.

Perreault and Leonard look great with him wow.

 

[Jack Skellington]

Perrault seems to be very overlooked.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Sandin-Pellikka copy-paste, not me :
Mobile, offensive-minded blueliner who likes to activate into the offensive zone. Plays with energy on both sides of the puck and has the potential to become a top-four defenseman in the NHL.

Me : is he the hidden future star playing D of the NHL in 2028 we just can't let another team to have?

But I saw goals of Smith and reviews of him and he'll become a good player in NHL, I would say 95% sure.

 

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Perrault seems to be very overlooked.

Perreault have good second line offensive forward potential in nhl. He have a good line with Smith in team USA. His ceiling is not that high but I could say he's a sure pick.

 

[SlafySZN]

I wouldn't be surprised if he drafts someone else instead.

Absolutely no chance

 

[JohnTheBaptist]

 

[ReHabs]

If there was no BPA, how are all the scouts polled by BobbyMac offering consensus picks that are mostly reflective of drafting outcomes? Osmosis? Back door window accessed in every team’s cloud storage? The divinatory arts?

Truly baffling.

I’m of two minds about “BPA”. There clearly is a consensus but I don’t believe there is a best. Some unorganized thoughts:

1) There is no such objectivity in such a thing, it’s impossible — therefore BPA means basically “aligned to the consolidated or consensus draft list” not anything to do with “best” …. and best when? Best at the time of draft?, or projected best in the NHL?, or best (highest) ceiling?, or best likelihood to not bust?, or some mixture of all the above which every scout and GM would weigh differently?

2) Different clubs have different criteria and weighing of factors and qualities — therefore BPA, even if we got a fixed definition form item 1 is not universal, it’s barely more than something like: “consolidated draft list; ignoring positional needs”

3a) On the chance that a team drafts for positional need you can say then they skipped the “BPA” … but a team that desperately needs Cs would think a C prospect is better (BPA) than a W, no? It’s only for the more prominent first round picks you can have clear tiers and if a team reaches past a player to a “lower” tier they skipped the BPA. After the first round it’s not like BPA can possibly exist.

3b) What if there are some size or strength related factors? Ex. a team that is small across its lineup and has tons of small prospects decided at the draft to skip a skilled small prospect in favour of a seemingly less skilled but larger prospect — we can probably say they didn’t go BPA… but it’s likely that small player wouldn’t be perceived as that small team’s BPA BECAUSE of their positional needs…

In conclusion I feel BPA simply just means “consensus draft list (in as far as we have a consensus)” and if you brazenly skip that order in the first round you’ll have reached for another prospect… but after pick 20-25 it’s a crapshoot anyway no?

 

[The Great Weal]

Absolutely no chance

Why is that?

 

[JHabs]

YES

 

[GettingYourMoms]

Slaf was not BPA at all , also that would make them 1/2 since Mesar is a budget Louis Leblanc.

Dear god picking Slaf at #1 overall and saying BPA when 4 of them were far superior to him is like asking to overdose on copium.

That's a 0/2 for me dawg and if they don't pick whos available at 5 , between Michkov Smith Carsson or even Fantilli in a dream world , its gonna be another check mark into the failure column of first rounders since new management.

Dodging BPA and go for the cute approach then trying to ask fans to digest that , we been there too many times in the last decade.

Smith or Michkov or Bust plain and simple.

Id rather see the BPA bust than get the cute pick who will average 30 points a season for a decade because he has the karakter and mental of the ''nhl''.

I might live my entire life and not see a single PPG player at this point drafted by this team , even the Laffs have that.

Lucky that you habs drafted finnish Kopitar in 2018, otherwise things would be much more bleak for your team.

 

[salbutera]

Gotta say HuGo must be elated that all media including local Habs coverage is completely focused on Make Beliefs saga at the most opportune moment - they can operate in stealth mode.

Hopefully Leafs soap opera runs for another 4- weeks to draft day at a minimum

 

[Runner77]

I’m of two minds about “BPA”. There clearly is a consensus but I don’t believe there is a best. Some unorganized thoughts:

1) There is no such objectivity in such a thing, it’s impossible — therefore BPA means basically “aligned to the consolidated or consensus draft list” not anything to do with “best” …. and best when? Best at the time of draft?, or projected best in the NHL?, or best (highest) ceiling?, or best likelihood to not bust?, or some mixture of all the above which every scout and GM would weigh differently?

2) Different clubs have different criteria and weighing of factors and qualities — therefore BPA, even if we got a fixed definition form item 1 is not universal, it’s barely more than something like: “consolidated draft list; ignoring positional needs”

3a) On the chance that a team drafts for positional need you can say then they skipped the “BPA” … but a team that desperately needs Cs would think a C prospect is better (BPA) than a W, no? It’s only for the more prominent first round picks you can have clear tiers and if a team reaches past a player to a “lower” tier they skipped the BPA. After the first round it’s not like BPA can possibly exist.

3b) What if there are some size or strength related factors? Ex. a team that is small across its lineup and has tons of small prospects decided at the draft to skip a skilled small prospect in favour of a seemingly less skilled but larger prospect — we can probably say they didn’t go BPA… but it’s likely that small player wouldn’t be perceived as that small team’s BPA BECAUSE of their positional needs…

In conclusion I feel BPA simply just means “consensus draft list (in as far as we have a consensus)” and if you brazenly skip that order in the first round you’ll have reached for another prospect… but after pick 20-25 it’s a crapshoot anyway no?

The farther away you get from the early picks of the first round, the higher the risk of busting or of drafting an average player who may not even have a significant playing career.

We’ve seen studies of past drafts showing great market efficiency with earlier picks in particular, where the majority of teams don’t tend to draft for need and where they’ll gravitate toward those players that BobbyMac’s scouts have expressed consensus about — clearly, there is a BPA approach at work but as you suggest, there is a point in the continuum when team priorities and other subjective factors create selections that are mostly not predictable.