Confirmed with Link: Canadiens Will Pick 5th (Hughes Presser in OP) NO POLITICS

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

I wasn't involved in a Caufield debate so my posts have nothing to do with Caufield.

No I wouldn't trade Caufield. I would move up with the 5th pick for either Michkov or Carlsson, but not using Caufield.

If Anaheim wants caufield+ for the 2OV, I'd do it, as long as we keep the 5th. Draft Fantili and then one of the three that remains. Hopefuly Michkov.

 

[waffledave]

Michkov is the next Guy Lafleur

So what? Why keep an old fart like Michkov when you can trade him to get a shot at Maddox Schultz in 2028?

 

[JoelWarlord]

So what? Why keep an old fart like Michkov when you can trade him to get a shot at Maddox Schultz in 2028?

Schultz is already washed up, I mean the kid's 13, that's just 20 years away from being 33. Put him in a home and start tanking harder so we can get a good pick in the 2032 draft.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

If Anaheim wants caufield+ for the 2OV, I'd do it, as long as we keep the 5th. Draft Fantili and then one of the three that remains. Hopefuly Michkov.

Yeah, if you can turn #5 and Caufield into Fantilli(or Carlsson) and Michkov, you take that and run.

Michkov will be a better version of Caufield.

 

[waffledave]

Schultz is already washed up, I mean the kid's 13, that's just 20 years away from being 33. Put him in a home and start tanking harder so we can get a good pick in the 2032 draft.

True but it's hard to argue his skillset and size. At 5'5 130lbs he's a lot bigger than most 13 year olds.

 

[JoelWarlord]

True but it's hard to argue his skillset and size. At 5'5 130lbs he's a lot bigger than most 13 year olds.

I'd be fine to draft him but we should really trade him for a 2038 draft pick that we can use on a kid that's currently learning the names of colours and playing with blocks. There's a kid that apparently learned shapes and colours 2 days before his classmates, that kind of intelligence should mean he'll have great hockey IQ.

 

[Bombshell11]

Yeah, if you can turn #5 and Caufield into Fantilli(or Carlsson) and Michkov, you take that and run.

Michkov will be a better version of Caufield.

Not to mention that Caufield has not even completed one full season yet

It's not like we're compairing a top prospect vs an established 50 goal scorer veteran

 

[McGuires Corndog]

Not to mention that Caufield has not even completed one full season yet

It's not like we're compairing a top prospect vs an established 50 goal scorer veteran

I do see Caufield scoring 40-50 a few times in his career, but I completely agree. I think Michkov’s profile as a prospect illustrates he’ll be at worst as good as Caufield, likely much better (Kucherov/Kaprizov level).

 

[Habnot]

The Michkov legend continues to grow everyday. It has no ceiling - and all based on basement draftniks.

 

[BenchBrawl]

So what? Why keep an old fart like Michkov when you can trade him to get a shot at Maddox Schultz in 2028?

Nice try equalizing Caufield and Michkov. I am having none of it. The point is not to trade for a younger player, but for a better player.

 

[NORiculous]

The rumour of wanting to trade #5 down with Detroit (#9 and #17) to able to pick Reinbacher isn’t what I was hoping for when going through this tank. I was expecting a 1st line guy because this team is filled with promising young D.

Next year the Habs probably get a top 10 (draft not as good) and then the picks will get further. So it’s kinda last call to get a potential 1st line star ( and maybe superstar ).

What a blessing that would be for Yzerman.

Chantal!!! Wake them up.

 

[Hannibal]

The rumour of wanting to trade #5 down with Detroit (#9 and #17) to able to pick Reinbacher isn’t what I was hoping for when going through this tank. I was expecting a 1st line guy because this team is filled with promising young D.

Next year the Habs probably get a top 10 (draft not as good) and then the picks will get further. So it’s kinda last call to get a potential 1st line star ( and maybe superstar ).

What a blessing that would be for Yzerman.

Chantal!!! Wake them up.

Where did you saw that?

 

[Jaynki]

How much urgency do you think Hughes and Gorton feel toward this pick?

Do you figure they think they can afford to keep “re“building for another two years?

I’m having a hard time picturing which sort of approach they’ll have. The Dach acquisition was a curveball.

They both stated it would require more time, asking fans to be patient.

 

[SlafySZN]

Nice try equalizing Caufield and Michkov. I am having none of it. The point is not to trade for a younger player, but for a better player.

In that case why not trade Suzuki for a better player in Fantilli

 

[LaP]

The rumour of wanting to trade #5 down with Detroit (#9 and #17) to able to pick Reinbacher isn’t what I was hoping for when going through this tank. I was expecting a 1st line guy because this team is filled with promising young D.

Next year the Habs probably get a top 10 (draft not as good) and then the picks will get further. So it’s kinda last call to get a potential 1st line star ( and maybe superstar ).

What a blessing that would be for Yzerman.

Chantal!!! Wake them up.

You must not always believe rumours you know. Like last year that rumour we wanted to acquired Dach for a pick was just pure BS. It was a fantasy created by some wacko journalist. Thins rarely unfold like they say it will.

 

[larek]

Habs are not going to trade Cau and stay at no 5 and be smart and take the best player available Wich will be Mich

 

[Captain Mountain]

How much urgency do you think Hughes and Gorton feel toward this pick?

Do you figure they think they can afford to keep “re“building for another two years?

I’m having a hard time picturing which sort of approach they’ll have. The Dach acquisition was a curveball.

How on earth was exchanging a 22 year old D-man and a couple of mid round picks for a 21 year old forward a curveball?

 

[Twisted Sinister]

How on earth was exchanging a 22 year old D-man and a couple of mid round picks for a 21 year old forward a curveball?

 

[JianYang]

How much urgency do you think Hughes and Gorton feel toward this pick?

Do you figure they think they can afford to keep “re“building for another two years?

I’m having a hard time picturing which sort of approach they’ll have. The Dach acquisition was a curveball.

Dach was 21 at the time of the deal so I think the trade still aligned with their direction.

The curveball would be if he went after Dubois. Thats the signal that the organization wants to accelerate things.

 

[Guy Larose]

Where did you saw that?

Probably on the boards here somewhere and now passing it off as a rumor.

 

[SlafySZN]

Dach was 21 at the time of the deal so I think the trade still aligned with their direction.

The curveball would be if he went after Dubois. Thats the signal that the organization wants to accelerate things.

Exactly.

Dach is in development. Probably like 2-3 years away from his peak years.

While a guy like Dubois is entering them now.

 

[Milhouse40]

Dach was 21 at the time of the deal so I think the trade still aligned with their direction.

The curveball would be if he went after Dubois. Thats the signal that the organization wants to accelerate things.

Even then.....He's also in the same age range than Suzuki.
They do want to accelerate the rebuild but not warp speed the whole process either.

 

[NotProkofievian]

The Michkov legend continues to grow everyday. It has no ceiling - and all based on basement draftniks.

New band name.

 

[ReHabs]

How on earth was exchanging a 22 year old D-man and a couple of mid round picks for a 21 year old forward a curveball?

Dach was 21 at the time of the deal so I think the trade still aligned with their direction.

The curveball would be if he went after Dubois. Thats the signal that the organization wants to accelerate things.

Why the Dach trade was a curveball in my opinion:
1. Dach was not linked to the Habs
2. Dach did not fit the profile of what we thought the Habs were pursuing (total rebuild - chasing draft picks and prospects)
3. Romanov was considered part of the "keepers" of the otherwise total rebuild

It indicated that the Habs didn't want to do a 'Chicago-style' total rebuild and or endure an extended selling/burn it down period where they don't trade away futures (draft picks and prospects).

It's worked out rather well so far but it was a curveball from the expected rebuild blueprint -- will HuGo do the same again with Dubois? It's an interesting question because it might have implications on their 5OA choice. Suzuki, Dubois, and Dach can play C -- will the Habs therefore go for Reinbacher over Smith?

 

[Captain Mountain]

Why the Dach trade was a curveball in my opinion:
1. Dach was not linked to the Habs
2. Dach did not fit the profile of what we thought the Habs were pursuing (total rebuild - chasing draft picks and prospects)
3. Romanov was considered part of the "keepers" of the otherwise total rebuild

It indicated that the Habs didn't want to do a 'Chicago-style' total rebuild and or endure an extended selling/burn it down period where they don't trade away futures (draft picks and prospects).

It's worked out rather well so far but it was a curveball from the expected rebuild blueprint -- will HuGo do the same again? It's an interesting question.

1. Dach was not really linked to anyone, we knew he was being shopped and what the Hawk's were looking for. We weren't connecting him to the Habs because the only pick Montreal had in the top-15 was 1st OA.
2. Dach was 21 and had just finished his D+3 season. He's younger than Caufield, who had just finished his rookie season. He's around 10 months older than Barron and Heineman, and a year older than Smilanic. How did he not fit the "chasing draft picks and prospects" expectation that was already established?
3. Romanov was more a part of Bergevin's "keepers", not HuGo's. And it wasn't as though they were moving him for a pick, the pick was a vehicle to get Dach.

It was already clear that Montreal wasn't pursuing a Chicago-style rebuild because both Gorton and Hughes were incredibly clear that they weren't doing that and there were no rumours that Suzuki or Caufield were being shopped. They also targeted prospects in previous trades as much as they targeted picks.

The only thing that could be considered a curveball was how the trade developed - nobody expected the Habs to convert Romanov into a first and then use that first to get Dach considering the names being mentioned regarding the Habs that day.