Confirmed with Link: Canadiens Will Pick 5th (Hughes Presser in OP) NO POLITICS

[26Mats]

The main issue I have is that logically if Smith/Carlsson/Fantilli/Bedard are all of the board then that means there would be no need for a tie breaker because after that the talent gap is too wide.

It'd be like if we won the lottery, but then management made the same statement regarding Bedard. Saying that if they feel someone else is equal in talent he might not be picked due to a tie breaker. Everyone knows he's the clear cut #1 talent, so there's no need to make that statement.

Again the statement was made pre their deep dive into the talent level of the candidates and the deep dive into the Russian Factor. Forget about any indication of his assessment of Michkov's talent level from that statement. It was purely about the Russian factor, in response to a question about the Russian factor.

Even if Hughes thinks Michkov is the clear #2 talent available, he's not going to say it. Remember these public statements are strategic and more used to deceive the competition than give away his cards. He's not going to say, "we really hope Michkov falls to us at 5, because he's the clear cut top talent in the draft after Bedard." That would be stupid to say publicly, especially if that's what he truly believes. In fact if that's what he truly believes, then it would be smarter for him to downplay Michkov's talent and talk up the Russian factor.

 

[HabbyGuy]

Great video scouting. I definetly want him

This is me if I'm Hughes...



It's such a no brainer to me! I just don't understand why anyone would even consider passing on him. IMO there's no way he's there at 5. And if by some miracle he still is, that will mean the habs would have infact for all intents and purposes, actually won the lottery by not moving down.

 

[sheed36]

Last week I watched a video of Button saying that the Habs should target Dvorsky to play behind Suzuki and take him @ 5 and yet today he as Dvorsky ranked 9th on his latest list.

 

[Twisted Sinister]

Last week I watched a video of Button saying that the Habs should target Dvorsky to play behind Suzuki and take him @ 5 and yet today he as Dvorsky ranked 9th on his latest list.

You can tell he doesn't have the courage of his convictions and that he's just forcing hot takes.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Last week I watched a video of Button saying that the Habs should target Dvorsky to play behind Suzuki and take him @ 5 and yet today he as Dvorsky ranked 9th on his latest list.

Button is not a person worth listening to.

 

[AHShadow]

I think the Leafs might trade Matthews or Marner, which might mean something for our draft. I tried to start this discussion before, but now more convinced than ever that it's possible.

These are all Matthews scenarios because I don't think Marner's trade makes sense for a rebuilding team like Matthews does. Historically, franchise players like Matthews, go for at least 1 prime prospect, 1 top 5 draft pick + at least 1st, plus some active players going the other way - I didn't include the active player part there because this could make a 3 team trade etc. so there are too many variables (one of the variables is that the Habs could be in there in some ways).
First, my reflex was to look at Arizona with Cooley/6th/12th - I still think it's the biggest possibility.
But Colombus and Sharks could also be in the mix for different reasons. Colombus just need a 1st C and they are rebooted; they are not your typical rebuild team, why wait 3-4 years for one of the draftees to arrive for Gaudreau/Laine. Jiricek, 3rd and Kings 1st. Sharks with a Bystedt/4th/Devils 1st. Sharks with Matthews are not a terrible team.

If the Leafs pick ahead of us, I think it's more likely we'll face the Michkov decision, as Leafs would be likely to pick centers to replace Matthews and Tavares.

Why would the Leafs do this? It's a quick fix to a lot of their issues.

Trade with Arizona
Tavares - Trade with 12th overall for a C (PLD?) - Marner
Knies - Cooley - Willy

+ 7-10m in cap space they can spend elsewhere in the lineup, and an off-ramp for Tavares cap hit via that entry-level salary used in the top 6.

Toronto picks Dvorsky/Benson with pick 6.

It makes sense for Arizona too
Keller - Matthews - Schmatlz
Crouse - Hayton - Guenther

They have tons of prospects, at all positions coming their way + a lot of draft assets in the rest of the 2023 draft.

Trade with Colombus
Toronto picks one of Carlsson/Fantilli
Tavares - Trade with 20ishth overall for a C - Marner
Knies - Carlsson/Fantilli - Willy

+ 7-10m in cap space they can spend elsewhere in the lineup, and an off-ramp for Tavares cap hit via that entry-level salary used in the top 6.

+ Jiricek replacing one of their bad D.

It makes sense for Colombus
Gaudreau - Matthews - Marchenko/Foudy
Johnson - Roslovic - Laine

They have tons of D prospects to trade Jiricek away.

I don't think we have the assets to play on Matthews unless Suz/Caufield/Guhle are on the table, it doesn't make sense for us. We don't have a prime prospect that would fit what the Leafs could need (1 C or a 1 D). Like Chicago and Anaheim, we need time over everything else.

It just doesn't make sense for Toronto to do this type of trade.

Toronto still wants to win now so they wouldn't want to potentially win in the future with potential prospects.

The only logical trade is if a Matthew Tkachuk suddenly becomes available so they trade one of the core 4 for that player.

In this case, it probably wouldn't be Matthews because even though his playoffs were subpar, he's still a top 5 or top 10 at-worst player in the NHL so you'll be losing any deal you make.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

You can tell he doesn't have the courage of his convictions and that he's just forcing hot takes.

Where he ranks the players is not necessarily where he thinks they will be drafted.

 

[sampollock]

Button is the hot take king.

buttonhole was the guy that yaked so loud that the habs would not win a game agaisnt the figs in the north div playoffs.

hot air

 

[McGuires Corndog]

buttonhole was the guy that yaked so loud that the habs would not win a game agaisnt the figs in the north div playoffs.

hot air

There’s a difference between playoff hockey and the all-star game style that the Leafs seem to like to play.

It’s very reminiscent of the good Caps & Sharks teams of the late 00s and early 10s. Amazing regular season teams, but absolute dog shit in the playoffs.

People can say what they want, but when the chips are down you’re better off with Nick Suzuki than Auston Matthews.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Interesting to see how high Slaf is ranked on the three advanced stats metrics starting at 8:44.

 

[sampollock]

Here is Craig Button's list for the 2023 draft:

1- Connor Bedard
2- Adam Fantilli
3- Leo Carlsson
4- Matvei Michkov
5- Axel Sandin-Pellikka
6- Will Smith
7- Eduard Sale
8- Tom Willander
9- Dalibor Dvorsky
10- Colby Barlow

 

[WeThreeKings]

Here is Craig Button's list for the 2023 draft:

1- Connor Bedard
2- Adam Fantilli
3- Leo Carlsson
4- Matvei Michkov
5- Axel Sandin-Pellikka
6- Will Smith
7- Eduard Sale
8- Tom Willander
9- Dalibor Dvorsky
10- Colby Barlow

Here's a picture of my bowel movement.

 

[Omar]

There’s no coach better to understand and help cultivate Michkov in the NHL than MSL.

 

[Skip Bayless]

Great video scouting. I definetly want him

Very strategic mind, reminds me of Kovalev and Suzuki in that aspect.

 

[sampollock]

There’s no coach better to understand and help cultivate Michkov in the NHL than MSL.

thing is MSL would have to be with the habs in 3 years

 

[xX SEYF Xx]

Here is Craig Button's list for the 2023 draft:

1- Connor Bedard
2- Adam Fantilli
3- Leo Carlsson
4- Matvei Michkov
5- Axel Sandin-Pellikka
6- Will Smith
7- Eduard Sale
8- Tom Willander
9- Dalibor Dvorsky
10- Colby Barlow

Good thing he resisted the urge to insert a hot take into that top 4 tho

 

[Shabs]

I dunno. I watch these videos and is anyone else here concerned about michkovs skating? This is what was the ultimate undoing of yakupov.

 

[Sorinth]

It's for sure impressive to have those MHL and VHL records but we need to keep in mind the MHL has only been a league for 8 years and the VHL only 7 years.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I dunno. I watch these videos and is anyone else here concerned about michkovs skating? This is what was the ultimate undoing of yakupov.

The undoing of Yakupov was his style of play was exposed in a structured hockey environment.

 

[Skip Bayless]

I dunno. I watch these videos and is anyone else here concerned about michkovs skating? This is what was the ultimate undoing of yakupov.

Those highlights were mostly from him at the age of 16 against men.

Yakupov was a good enough skater, he just had no knowledge of the game nor real desire to learn.

 

[Runner77]

Last week I watched a video of Button saying that the Habs should target Dvorsky to play behind Suzuki and take him @ 5 and yet today he as Dvorsky ranked 9th on his latest list.

Ironically, Iast week I had Button ranked 9th on the Putz Scale but now, he’s moved up to 5th!

In essence, Axel rose.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Ironically, Iast week I had Button ranked 9th on the Putz Scale but now, he’s moved up to 5th!

Just needs a regular spot on TSN 690 to crack your top 3.

 

[Sorinth]

I dunno. I watch these videos and is anyone else here concerned about michkovs skating? This is what was the ultimate undoing of yakupov.

I see it sort of like Caufield, he doesn't have the high end speed that you typically want from a small guy but it's not going to stop him from being a good NHL player. So yes it's a concern because it might mean rather then the 100+ point player some expect he ends up more of an 80 point player, but not a concern that he might completly bust like Yakupov.

 

[Ozmodiar]

Last week I watched a video of Button saying that the Habs should target Dvorsky to play behind Suzuki and take him @ 5 and yet today he as Dvorsky ranked 9th on his latest list.

Yeah , that doesn’t add up. lol

 

[River Meadow]

Great video scouting. I definetly want him

Yes I concur, I want him.

We need to swing for the fences, why not.

Use pick #32 for the safer 1st round pick.

I'm impressed with his strength and feistiness as well for being so short... while 5ft8-5ft9 is small, if you're a beast in the weight room (ala Francis Bouillon) you can get pretty darn strong.

EDIT: Button has Michkov at 5ft10 and Bedard at 5ft9... who knows, maybe Michkov is 5ft10 now.

Here is Craig Button's list for the 2023 draft:

1- Connor Bedard
2- Adam Fantilli
3- Leo Carlsson
4- Matvei Michkov
5- Axel Sandin-Pellikka
6- Will Smith
7- Eduard Sale
8- Tom Willander
9- Dalibor Dvorsky
10- Colby Barlow

Bruh,

He has Cristall at #35.

Musty at #31.

Brindley at #34.


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