Canadian Government Freezing Hockey Canada Funding- (2018 Canada World Jr Team Alleged Sexual Assault)

[Jeune Poulet]

The police decided that there was a lack of evidence. You can prosecute with a hostile witness if there's evidence.

Except it was the other way around. It is the police that was hostile to the witness, as is the case many times when victims report sexual assaults.

They're reopening the investigation now that everyone knows about it and it can't be swept under the rug.

 

[Sun God Nika]

Honestly what I can’t wrap my head around is how drunk 17-19 year olds with next to no education besides knowing how to play a game are smart enough to coheres someone into making multiple consent videos and getting them to shower.. thinking 2 steps ahead for a rape kit.

Something isn’t adding up

 

[Mingus Dew]

Honestly what I can’t wrap my head around is how drunk 17-19 year with next to no education besides knowing how to play a game where smart enough to coheres someone into making multiple consent videos and getting them to shower.. thinking 2 steps ahead for a rape kit.

Something isn’t adding up

If 8 professional hockey players with golf clubs told me to record a video I probably would.

 

[theVladiator]

Do you realize how much a leap of judgment you (and others) have made without the necessary facts?

You are free to do so, heck anyone can come to any conclusion, but your response when called out on it is this post?

the person you are responded to has laid out his opinion and why he hasn't jumped to conclusions and to call it silly is just not a good look.

You mean where the person claimed to believe the victim, while claiming throughout this thread that they are waiting for more info to decide what is true?

"I believe you, I am just waiting for more evidence to see if what you said is true"

Calling it ridiculous would have been more accurate than calling it silly, but why nitpick like that?

 

[theVladiator]

Honestly what I can’t wrap my head around is how drunk 17-19 year with next to no education besides knowing how to play a game where smart enough to coheres someone into making multiple consent videos and getting them to shower.. thinking 2 steps ahead for a rape kit.

Something isn’t adding up

I think what you meant to ask is this - How is it that the teenage hockey players seems to be familiar with the steps to take to make rape charges more difficult? I would not say that this doesn't add up, but we would rather avoid thinking about how it actually does add up.

 

[Sun God Nika]

I think what you meant to ask is this - How is it that the teenage hockey players seems to be familiar with the steps to take to make rape charges more difficult? I would not say that this doesn't add up, but we would rather avoid thinking about how it actually does add up.

It really doesn’t add up to me I was in school my whole life and I still think I was pretty dumb through my whole teens.

Expecting intoxicated kids who have no real world knowledge because they only know hockey, being capable to hide a rape charge by taking such calculated steps such as consent videos, and a forced shower to get rid of DNA isn’t realistic to me.

 

[WarriorofTime]

It really doesn’t add up to me I was in school my whole life and I still think I was pretty dumb through my whole teens.

Expecting intoxicated kids who have no real world knowledge because they only know hockey, being capable to hide a rape charge by taking such calculated steps such as consent videos, and a forced shower to get rid of DNA isn’t realistic to me.

What doesn't "add up". This is rape culture in action.

You haven't learned to cover up rape because you're not a rapist.

 

[theVladiator]

It really doesn’t add up to me I was in school my whole life and I still think I was pretty dumb through my whole teens.

Expecting intoxicated kids who have no real world knowledge because they only know hockey, being capable to hide a rape charge by taking such calculated steps such as consent videos, and a forced shower to get rid of DNA isn’t realistic to me.

This isn't calculus. The only thing one needs to know those things, is wanting to know those things. Which, as I said, is a chilling thought.

 

[Zippity]

If 8 professional hockey players with golf clubs told me to record a video I probably would.

Question is what they were doing with the golf clubs

 

[WarriorofTime]

Question is what they were doing with the golf clubs

There was a golf outing before the gala.

 

[RoadWarrior]

Honestly what I can’t wrap my head around is how drunk 17-19 year olds with next to no education besides knowing how to play a game are smart enough to coheres someone into making multiple consent videos and getting them to shower.. thinking 2 steps ahead for a rape kit.

Something isn’t adding up

Its also possible that the female in question consented to a gangbang........ no crime.

 

[Mingus Dew]

Its also possible that the female in question consented to a gangbang........ no crime.

Yeah she kind of said she didn’t though.

 

[RoadWarrior]

Yeah she kind of said she didn’t though.

After she changed her mind. i.e had regrets after talking with her parents.

Would not change the fact she consented at the time.

 

[Zippity]

According to the lawsuit, the players directed her to fondle her genitals, and perform oral sex on them. The players also allegedly straddled the plaintiff while placing their genitals in her face, slapped the plaintiff on her buttocks, spat on her, ejaculated in and on her, engaged in vaginal intercourse with her, pressured her from leaving the room when she tried to, and engaged in other sexual activities with her.

At times the plaintiff was crying and attempted to leave the room but was directed, manipulated and intimidated into remaining, after which she was subjected to further sexual assaults,” the lawsuit said.

 

[Mingus Dew]

After she changed her mind. i.e had regrets after talking with her parents.

Would not change the fact she consented at the time.

If you think this woman is a liar that’s your prerogative I suppose.

 

[RoadWarrior]

If you think this woman is a liar that’s your prerogative I suppose.

The police already investigated and they found no evidence of sexual assault.

You're actually calling the police liars.

 

[Tragedy]

There was a golf outing before the gala.

Day after

The police already investigated and they found no evidence of sexual assault.

You're actually calling the police liars.

And now they reopened their investigation so how good of a job did they do if they need to do it again?

 

[Jeune Poulet]

Honestly what I can’t wrap my head around is how drunk 17-19 year olds with next to no education besides knowing how to play a game are smart enough to coheres someone into making multiple consent videos and getting them to shower.. thinking 2 steps ahead for a rape kit.

Something isn’t adding up

"I choose to disbelieve the existence of the videos, even though they have been viewed by journalists and nobody denies their existence".

This is such a weird post.

It's disturbing how far people will go to not face the truth.

 

[RoadWarrior]

Day after


And now they reopened their investigation so how good of a job did they do if they need to do it again?

Re-opening an investigation due to political and social media pressure means nothing. They felt they had to make some kind of public statement.

"I choose to disbelieve the existence of the videos, even though they have been viewed by journalists and nobdoy denies their existence".

This is such a weird post.

It's disturbing how far people will go to not face the truth.

You can't handle the truth!!

 

[Jeune Poulet]

The police already investigated and they found no evidence of sexual assault.

You're actually calling the police liars.

The police's investigation was bogus. London police has just announced they are re-opening the investigation because enough people have removed their blindfolds.

You should try it.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Honestly what I can’t wrap my head around is how drunk 17-19 year olds with next to no education besides knowing how to play a game are smart enough to coheres someone into making multiple consent videos and getting them to shower.. thinking 2 steps ahead for a rape kit.

Something isn’t adding up

It's a bunch of men in a room surrounding an intoxicated woman. Intimidation and vulnerability play a role here.

 

[H3ckt1k]

After she changed her mind. i.e had regrets after talking with her parents.

Would not change the fact she consented at the time.

Do you think it's normal for a kid to talk to their parents about something like that if everything went well?

 

[Pink Mist]

After she changed her mind. i.e had regrets after talking with her parents.

Would not change the fact she consented at the time.

Very normal thing to tell your parents the morning after that you got "consensually" gangbanged by 8 dudes last night...


You know many teenagers? because I think most would rather die in a hole than do that

 

[RedHawkDown]

There should be bans for some of the posts in here.

Jesus f*** i pray to every deity some of you don’t have daughters

 

[loudi94]

There should be bans for some of the posts in here.

Jesus f*** i pray to every deity some of you don’t have daughters

Or sons for that matter. I'd absolutely be beside myself if I learned that my kid disrespected a young woman like these young men did.