Canadian Government Freezing Hockey Canada Funding- (2018 Canada World Jr Team Alleged Sexual Assault)

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wetcoast

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If they ever existed, they would have been part of the initial police investigation.
One would think but it seems that investigation went literally nowhere and the victim didn't want to peruse it.

Either way if the current investigation goes all the way her involvement which I understand will be forthcoming will help to identify the 8 guys.

Although I can't remember (or maybe we don't know) but usually is settlements like the one she took there is a non disclosure clause, maybe a lawyer would know know about that.
 

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So the players are saying they did nothing wrong and Hockey Canada settled out of court without informing them
That’s the assertion, yes. Keep in mind that Dan Mackenzie, the CHL’s head honcho, issued a statement when the settlement first became public, that he’d just learned about it.

And we can forgive Hockey Canada if they failed to notify Sam Steel’s agent. He’s a hard dude to reach. “Global News made multiple attempts to contact Gerry Johannson and The Sports Corporation. The email listed on the agency’s website returned to sender, while the number on both the website and the NHL Player’s Association website played a recorded message saying it did not take voicemail. No cellphone number or direct email contact is listed on either site.”
 

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I don't like how you can just pay hush money and sweep something like sexual assault under the rug. This stuff should be investigated and made public, and the people involved should get a lifelong criminal record.

The police investigated and found there wasn't grounds to lay charges. Who else should be investigating this matter?

Assen na yo!
 

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I don't like how you can just pay hush money and sweep something like sexual assault under the rug. This stuff should be investigated and made public, and the people involved should get a lifelong criminal record.
I agree with you, but the victim has chosen not to press charges in lieu of a settlement, which probably involves her agreeing to not disclose (i.e. testify) anything about the incident. While it seems proper to know who was involved, for her, it involves nothing but reliving the incident, getting unwanted attention from the public and opposing forces, and possibly her identity being leaked. If i was in her shoes I'd take the $$$$, and run as far away as possible from this mess.

The responses in the article above were mixed bag of lawyerly responses filled with huffy , "How dare you accuse my client?" to non responses, to guys or their lawyers saying pretty bluntly, "Hell, no. I sure as hell didn't do it." I found them the most convincing...Makar, Fabbro, Foote, Gadjovich, Mete.

Personally, I hope this drags on and we find out who the gang bangers were... it is even possible that the incident was not as described. I don't see it, considering the amount of money that was paid out.

Ugly, ugly incident that was handled incompetently.
 
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The police investigated and found there wasn't grounds to lay charges. Who else should be investigating this matter?

Assen na yo!

Maybe the court of public opinion on HF boards, surprised there isn't a poll with options for punishment yet...would have been really popular in the 18th century.
 
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I don't like how you can just pay hush money and sweep something like sexual assault under the rug. This stuff should be investigated and made public, and the people involved should get a lifelong criminal record.

It's hard to investigate a sexual assault case when the alleged act is basically a 8-on-1 gangbang and the "1" doesn't want to cooperate. (Of course things evolved since then)
 

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I agree with you, but the victim has chosen not to press charges in lieu of a settlement, which probably involves her agreeing to not disclose (i.e. testify) anything about the incident.

There is nothing HC can do if the victim decides to participate in a potential criminal investigation.

Also, HC can simply waive the clause, and they just appear to have done it (amongst other things because it would look f***ing bad if they didn't).
 

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It's hard to investigate a sexual assault case when the alleged act is basically a 8-on-1 gangbang and the "1" doesn't want to cooperate. (Of course things evolved since then)

Is this fiction or something? it doesn't have to be that does it? Feels like it's been sensationalized like poor news web sites for click bait.
 
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I agree with you, but the victim has chosen not to press charges in lieu of a settlement, which probably involves her agreeing to not disclose (i.e. testify) anything about the incident. While it seems proper to know who was involved, for her, it involves nothing but reliving the incident, getting unwanted attention from the public and opposing forces, and possibly her identity being leaked. If i was in her shoes I'd take the $$$$, and run as far away as possible from this mess.

The responses in the article above were mixed bag of lawyerly responses filled with huffy , "How dare you accuse my client?" to non responses, to guys or their lawyers saying pretty bluntly, "Hell, no. I sure as hell didn't do it." I found them the most convincing...Makar, Fabbro, Foote, Gadjovich, Mete.

Personally, I hope this drags on and we find out who the gang bangers were... it is even possible that the incident was not as described. I don't see it, considering the amount of money that was paid out.

Ugly, ugly incident that was handled incompetently.

Well that's what she did, essentially, until TSN/Westhead/whoever brought it into public light.

Until then, no one except the victim, the players, and Hockey Canada had any knowledge that Canadian taxpayers were essentially funding hush money for gang sexual assault.

Whoever this victim is, I'd say she's pretty brave for jumping back in to the whole mess now, four years later. Hopefully some good comes from it and the attackers are identified.
 
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I agree with you, but the victim has chosen not to press charges in lieu of a settlement, which probably involves her agreeing to not disclose (i.e. testify) anything about the incident. While it seems proper to know who was involved, for her, it involves nothing but reliving the incident, getting unwanted attention from the public and opposing forces, and possibly her identity being leaked. If i was in her shoes I'd take the $$$$, and run as far away as possible from this mess.

The responses in the article above were mixed bag of lawyerly responses filled with huffy , "How dare you accuse my client?" to non responses, to guys or their lawyers saying pretty bluntly, "Hell, no. I sure as hell didn't do it." I found them the most convincing...Makar, Fabbro, Foote, Gadjovich, Mete.

Personally, I hope this drags on and we find out who the gang bangers were... it is even possible that the incident was not as described. I don't see it, considering the amount of money that was paid out.

Ugly, ugly incident that was handled incompetently.
Individuals generally do not press charges in Canada, the Crown does. The Crown would obviously need the victim to participate to have a chance of a conviction so even if it was reported to police and described, if she refused to participate they likely wouldn't move forward at the time. NDAs cannot be used to protect someone from criminal behaviour.
 
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Is this fiction or something? it doesn't have to be that does it? Feels like it's been sensationalized like poor news web sites for click bait.

For the sakes of simplicity, that's how I chose to describe it, because that's basically the same as whatever happened between the woman and those 7 or 8 players, in that it's her word vs. the words of 7 or 8 people with apparently no other witness whatsoever.
 
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