Canadian Captain Barrett Hayton didn't remove his helmet for the Russian anthem

[Melkor]

My take is going to be kinda hot but whatever...who gives a crap about helmets? Stop making hockey look like an institute of noble maidens. Why hate that, hate edgy hits, hate fights? That just make things even more interesting and entertaining. Passion, aggression, testosterone. Bet next time they meet russians would like to respond with some bone-crushing hit and Hayton is well aware of that. As a fans of this sport, you shouldn't be complaining about such marginal stuff as helmet on during anthems. Whatever makes this thing more exciting is allowed in my book.

 

[Vagrant]

It's a huge stretch to compare him keeping his helmet on with Colin Kaepernick or Tommie Smith.

Like a massive one.

If he comes out and explains that he deliberately kept his helmet on in protest with respect to Russian conduct during the game, I will gladly admit that I am wrong.

People who protest anthems give a rationale.

I suspect he was just angry and sulking and already regrets doing it. Not following in the footsteps of great anthem protests of the past.

these two concepts are counterintuitive to me. if he was angry and sulking, then his perception that this would anger people was a consideration. what do you believe to be the origin of his understanding as to why that would be? i realize that sounds like a leading statement, but let's be candid about it. the news has been infested with interpretations of anthem protests and the results are incredibly polarizing. it seems highly illogical to imagine he didn't have a frame of reference for what removing/not removing his lid meant regarding his feelings for the opposition. how is that considered a logical stretch? i don't think this was some grand plan, but when he ran it through his filter it came back as something that would be antagonistic or else what's the point? he's spent an entire career doing this. he's been playing international competitions since he was 14 and perhaps longer. he knows why he takes his helmet off when the music starts.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

Well, at the time it probably seemed biased. I'd have to watch the games again.

No. It was biased in the games the Eastern Bloc refs were involved in. The NHL refs did some games and did a good job by and large. Those were different days though when the Soviets controlled the Eastern Bloc countries.
That was in part what made the 1972 victory so remarkable. That and the fact that North Americans had no idea just how good the Soviets were. They were away ahead on off ice conditioning and some of the tactics. Most experts were predicting a Canadian rout before the series started.

 

[sdf]

This is idiotic to play anthem after every game. It should be only in final

 

[Sens9292]

Who cares lol. Dear god the humanity!

Kids are like 19, you people are something else if this is a story.

He's not a kid. He's also representing Canada at a highly regarded National tournament.

 

[NyQuil]

Bet next time they meet russians would like to respond with some bone-crushing hit and Hayton is well aware of that. As a fans of this sport, you shouldn't be complaining about such marginal stuff as helmet on during anthems. Whatever makes this thing more exciting is allowed in my book.

The last thing you want to do after getting humiliated is give the opposition more reason to do so in the next game.

 

[SI90]

Pretty classless. Good for the Russians. I’d be embarrassed and disappointed if an American kid did this.

 

[JackSlater]

He should have taken his helmet off. If he does it again then he should receive a punishment of some sort. That's about it. I'll never understand people clamouring for apologies as if a largely forced apology has any meaning.

 

[DuklaNation]

Already over 10% of the game thread posts. I predict at least 30%. He hurt my feelings!!!

 

[Redpath]

Not a great way to represent your country, but ultimately a harmless way to stir up shit.

19 year olds can be naive, especially after a tough loss. Not the end of the world.

 

[NyQuil]

No. It was biased in the games the Eastern Bloc refs were involved in. The NHL refs did some games and did a good job by and large. Those were different days though when the Soviets controlled the Eastern Bloc countries.
That was in part what made the 1972 victory so remarkable. That and the fact that North Americans had no idea just how good the Soviets were. They were away ahead on off ice conditioning and some of the tactics. Most experts were predicting a Canadian rout before the series started.

There are all kinds of reasons why things worked out the way they did.

Canadians were in poor shape to start off with and steadily got better as the series went on. Canadians adapted to the Russian style of play (which they were unfamiliar with). John Ferguson Sr. essentially told Bobby Clarke to take out the Soviet Union's best player.

Like any series, there are a lot of dimensions to it.

Kompalla, though born Polish, was technically from West Germany.

 

[Sombastate]

It really does demand an apology. It was a classless and offensive thing. But that's all it was.

It isn't the end of the world. It doesn't reflect on Canada, it likely doesn't even reflect on him. He is going to get shit for it, he's going to deserve it. How he handles it from here is what will actually reflect him.

 

[JAS 39 Gripen]

I wouldn't call relishing the opportunity to gloat and humiliate someone they just eviscerated very classy. They won 6-0 and handed Canada its biggest loss ever at the tournament.

Classy move would have been to let it go, not care about a player not removing their helmet. Russia's behaviour at these tournaments has been deplorable on many occasions. I wouldn't feel the same way if say the Swiss felt disrespected by similar behaviour.

Youre really trying to spin this around on the Russians? Geez...


On topic: yes, Hayton didn’t act the right way. He’s a kid though.
That the Russians didn’t wanna shake his hand afterwards? Totally get them, why should they?

as some have mentioned earlier, it was way worse when the Russian men’s team left the ice one year.

when it comes to these kids tourneys, trolls and idiots on social media platforms needs to relax. Whether if it’s Hayton and his helmet, Lias and his medal or Canadian kids and their medals - they’re kids playing in a kids tournament. Effin relax.

Since Canada and Russia pretty much controls the IIHF (it’s true), I would be very surprised if there’s any aftermath on this

 

[Melkor]

The last thing you want to do after getting humiliated is give the opposition more reason to do so in the next game.

Idk maybe Hayton has already made up his mind that whenever they meet again he's coming for their everything and wants to beat them at their best? That's actually a ballsy move by him. He knows damn well what he did and still didn't apologize after the game. Canada got bullied around today. It's understandable to want to get some revenge rather than act like a gentleman.

 

[NyQuil]

Since Canada and Russia pretty much controls the IIHF (it’s true), I would be very surprised if there’s any aftermath on this

I like the way you just throw this in at the end.

 

[Cursed Lemon]

This is literally the worst thing that has ever happened.

 

[NyQuil]

That's actually a ballsy move by him. He knows damn well what he did and still didn't apologize after the game. Canada got bullied around today. It's understandable to want to get some revenge rather than act like a gentleman.

I'm a pretty tough bastard on the ice and on the field but I leave it there. I actually had my nose broken by a punch but I declined to press charges because it happened on the field.

Just my philosophy, so I don't agree with you on this one.

Once the whistle blows, it's time to be a gentleman. Win or lose, it's handshakes and "good game". That's what sports are all about.

 

[lilidk]

before i judge someone for something i like to hear his explanation, people do made mistakes

 

[Melkor]

I'm a pretty tough bastard on the ice and on the field but I leave it there. I actually had my nose broken by a punch but I declined to press charges because it happened on the field.

Just my philosophy, so I don't agree with you on this one.

Once the whistle blows, it's time to be a gentleman. Win or lose, it's handshakes and "good game".

I don't know I kinda like this type of spicy shit. But only if the guy who does that wants to face all the possible consequences of such behavior, wants all the smoke as they say. If he's just a p***y who just couldnt handle his emotions and acted like an abused beta then f*** him.

 

[Ninety7]

Classless but not really a big deal.

 

[ORRFForever]

He should have taken his helmet off. If he does it again then he should receive a punishment of some sort. That's about it. I'll never understand people clamouring for apologies as if a largely forced apology has any meaning.

As always, you provide a common sense approach, JS.

P.S. Is that Paul Newman or Humpfrey Bogart?

 

[NyQuil]

I'll never understand people clamouring for apologies as if a largely forced apology has any meaning.

It just ends the story.

 

[Mickey Marner]

Send him back to Arizona.

 

[JackSlater]

As always, you provide a common sense approach, JS.

P.S. Is that Paul Newman or Humpfrey Bogart?

That's Paul Newman in Hud.

 

[NyQuil]

i don't think this was some grand plan, but when he ran it through his filter it came back as something that would be antagonistic or else what's the point? he's spent an entire career doing this. he's been playing international competitions since he was 14 and perhaps longer. he knows why he takes his helmet off when the music starts.

You're trying to say that he's been subconsciously conditioned to somehow believe that taking an action during an anthem is a positive and patriotic act of protest for some worthy cause.

Again, people who actively protest do not try to hide what they have done or fail to explain their actions. They immediately (or even prematurely) explain their actions and their rationale.

I honestly do not believe that Hayton thinks he's being a good patriotic Canadian by leaving his helmet on. Nothing I have seen or heard speaks to that in any way. He has not sought out the media to explain his actions, he has not addressed it in any media interviews.

I think he was pissed off. I don't see the connection between being angry and believing himself to be acting in the interest of the country.

The only evidence you have is that he left his helmet on.

You don't know why, his state of mind, what anthem protests he has been exposed to, what his political leanings or feelings are. This assumption that the zeitgeist compelled him or influenced him in some manner is impossible to prove.

If he comes out and explains that he believes he is a patriot and left his helmet on as an indication of that, I will gladly admit that I am wrong.