Canada VS Rest of world.

[Dris]

From a purely hockey standpoint, it is an interesting question because of the depth of the Canadian team and how they would match up player to player. I think if you look at the potential line-ups Canada is good enough to compete against an all-world team.

But then you have people come into the thread and make smart ass comment about brokering world peace and playing the Seahawks, simply because they lack the hockey knowledge or understanding to create a reasonable argument against the match-ups that could occur in such a game.

All of the world's top players are close. I would make the argument that the US team could also defeat an all-world team in a one game situation. But then I would have to start making up lame, weak and pointless posts about that American team playing a football team or solving problems in the Middle East I guess, in order to cover for my lack of original thought.

0) Mark my words 1) Watch the final tomorrow 2) Quote this comment 3) Get tissues

You dont need an all-start team, you need a team...exactly what sweden has....best of luck

 

[JoeyBeans]

0) Mark my words 1) Watch the final tomorrow 2) Quote this comment 3) Get tissues

You dont need an all-start team, you need a team...exactly what sweden has....best of luck

And this whole time I was cheering for Finland in the Bronze match. Sooo Fins don't cheer for Canada?

 

[JoeyBeans]

Try doing something in Rio in 2 years Canada instead of focusing on one or two sports. Could the US basketball team beat the world?

check out a basketball forum.

 

[Kharkov]

And this whole time I was cheering for Finland in the Bronze match. Sooo Fins don't cheer for Canada?

Dunno, speaking of Fins, Niemi maybe cheers for Vlasic and Marleau.

Finns probably most of them cheer for Sweden, but definitely some Finns cheer for Canada. I dont know yet who to cheer for.

 

[TatarTangle]

the game is still played 20 vs 20. name me any ''world player'' and ill name you an equal or better canadian player, including in goal what has lundqvist done that price hasnt?

your ''world team'' would be favorites only to people who dont know hockey

I find that people who use the phrase "only to people who don't know [insert subject here]" are the ones that know the least about [insert subject here]. It's also one of the most ignorant statement in the world.

If they were to play in a series I'd argue the world team would win. If it's a single game it'd be a coin flip IMO.

 

[Jackson14]

0) Mark my words 1) Watch the final tomorrow 2) Quote this comment 3) Get tissues

You dont need an all-start team, you need a team...exactly what sweden has....best of luck

Canada has been playing a great team game also. The only country that seems to struggle with that concept is Russia.

 

[ziploc]

I find that people who use the phrase "only to people who don't know [insert subject here]" are the ones that know the least about [insert subject here]. It's also one of the most ignorant statement in the world.

If they were to play in a series I'd argue the world team would win. If it's a single game it'd be a coin flip IMO.

Totally agree, with both points. I can't stand the arrogance that assumes if someone disagrees with you they must be entirely ignorant.

 

[ayoshi]

15 of the top 30 scorers in the NHL are Canadian (including 15 of the top 24). Also, no Stamkos here...
Their goaltending wouldn't be as good, but their defense isn't bad.

Not sure why they "wouldn't have a chance"

 

[WolfgangAmadeusEller*]

Canada vs the rest of the world?
A game? 50-50
Best of 7? Canada. Better players + depth.
Dat 6 Norris caliber D.

 

[Jackson14]

Not to be a d**che but that list also proves how Canada could ice 2 gold medal contenders quite easily. 4 of those guys weren't even named to team Canada.

 

[jomas]

15 of the top 30 scorers in the NHL are Canadian (including 15 of the top 24). Also, no Stamkos here...
Their goaltending wouldn't be as good, but their defense isn't bad.

Not sure why they "wouldn't have a chance"

Because Sidney Crosby is a silly goose when it comes to international games.

 

[habfaninvictoria]

Dunno, speaking of Fins, Niemi maybe cheers for Vlasic and Marleau.

Finns probably most of them cheer for Sweden, but definitely some Finns cheer for Canada. I dont know yet who to cheer for.

Maybe I'm not up on world politics... but ... aren't Finland and Sweden historic enemies.

 

[Kharkov]

Maybe I'm not up on world politics... but ... aren't Finland and Sweden historic enemies.

No. When Soviet Union attacked to Finland there were plenty of Swedish volunteers who came to help Finland etc.

In political terms Finland and Sweden are quite same (even though Sweden is more nannystate and politically correct )

If Finns are "historic enemies" to somebody it is Russia (or vice versa), not Sweden. Many Finns cheer for Sweden (when they arent playing against Finland) and many Swede cheer for Finland (when they arent playing against Sweden ofc)

 

[gameofinches]

ya know, a couple bounces of the puck, and a shot, and Canada would not have even won against the US, let alone the world. Latvia could have beat Canada.


I appreciate the Canadian confidence, but good lord... if the US plays Canada in a seven game series, quite likely it goes seven.

 

[BCShark]

i think if they played 100 games 60 out of 100 times canada wins

 

[habfaninvictoria]

Canada vs the rest of the world?
A game? 50-50
Best of 7? Canada. Better players + depth.
Dat 6 Norris caliber D.

Let's not forget their 8th d man who actually has a Norris.

It's fun to make hypothetical scenarios but let's not forget that 48 hours ago we were considering ourselves underdogs against a very strong US squad.

We saw a very committed squad in that game. We saw a team. To those haters out there who think we're over confident...... sorry..... but what exactly do you expect.... Hockey is our national obsession ... why should we apologize for being good.

 

[TheFinalWord]

ya know, a couple bounces of the puck, and a shot, and Canada would not have even won against the US, let alone the world. Latvia could have beat Canada.


I appreciate the Canadian confidence, but good lord... if the US plays Canada in a seven game series, quite likely it goes seven.

If we're talking a couple of bounces, over the course of a series, those bounces are more likely to favour the team that is outplaying the other. When you watch the game against the US, it is clear that Canada outplayed them fairly significantly.

With good coaching, they could probably make some adjustments to bring things closer to even, but the way Canada is playing, it will be tough to beat them. Sweden will need to play a team game and get great goaltending, but that isn't hard to imagine. It could definitely go either way, but I think Canada should be favoured. There are only so many games you can play before the lineup Canada has starts burying a few.

Any of the top 5 teams could take Canada to a 7th game, but they way they're coming together, I wouldn't count on it.

 

[gameofinches]

If we're talking a couple of bounces, over the course of a series, those bounces are more likely to favour the team that is outplaying the other. When you watch the game against the US, it is clear that Canada outplayed them fairly significantly.

With good coaching, they could probably make some adjustments to bring things closer to even, but the way Canada is playing, it will be tough to beat them. Sweden will need to play a team game and get great goaltending, but that isn't hard to imagine. It could definitely go either way, but I think Canada should be favoured. There are only so many games you can play before the lineup Canada has starts burying a few.

Any of the top 5 teams could take Canada to a 7th game, but they way they're coming together, I wouldn't count on it.

Canada outplayed us that game.. but something goes in early, and we had plenty of chances, and the entire dynamic shifts. Canada is better on paper, but we came together earlier.

We needed an early goal that game..didn't get it. Winning big games, and confidence in big games comes with time.

US woman outplayed Canada pretty much the whole game.. and lost. It's hockey.

So I guess.. sure Canada could beat a world team.. the US boys beat the Russian men in 1980...

 

[HabsAddict]

This question can only be answered AFTER the gold medal.

But......

Canadians current Norris trophy winner is making paper airplanes in the stands. Who exactly does the rest of the world have as their 7th defenseman that is even close to Subban?

And then there is Stamkos.

 

[simplysincere*]

Yes, they could win. On paper the world team is better, but Canada basically has a world all star team themselves.

 

[bursilym]

Look at all the insecure posters calling this arrogant. This is a legit discussion. I know team world has elite players like: ovechkin, malkin, sedins, etc. But TC also has: crosby, stamkos, doughty, etc. Calling this thread arrogant just shows that you are trying to downplay canadian players. What did team world players exactly do that makes them better than crosby, malkin, stamkos, doughty and all the other elite canadian players??? And dont give me bulsht about how canada didnt blow out latvia. In a given game, any hockey team has a chance to win. Even the buffalo sabres in nhl beat pittsburgh penguins. Does that mean sabres are better?? If latvia didnt play defense the whole game and if not for the goalie, the game would more likely be 10-0. And also the finnish team sucks. They just play boring defensive game and try to win. If they had the guts to play offensive game, canada would blow them out.

 

[ziploc]

I'm more interested in Canada's B team. Who would be on that team, and could it compete against other national teams?

Goalies: Fleury, Ward, Scrivens/Crawford
Defense: Bieksa, Seabrook, Letang, Giordano, Boyle, Staal, Campbell, Phaneuf
Forwards: Thornton, Couture, Seguin, Hall, Giroux, Staal, Staal, Eberle, Iginla, Neal, Kane, Lucic, Skinner, Richards

That's a pretty good team. Weaker in every aspect than our A team, though the forwards are pretty close, IMO. Defense is where the real disparity lies.

 

[SilverSeven]

Canadas 4th line centre was Tavares, a guy who would likely be the 1st line centre on every other countries team.

We scratched the reigning Norris winner.

The depth is there. They would be in tough, but it could happen.

 

[bursilym]

I'm more interested in Canada's B team. Who would be on that team, and could it compete against other national teams?

Goalies: Fleury, Ward, Scrivens/Crawford
Defense: Bieksa, Seabrook, Letang, Giordano, Boyle, Staal, Campbell, Phaneuf
Forwards: Thornton, Couture, Seguin, Hall, Giroux, Staal, Staal, Eberle, Iginla, Neal, Kane, Lucic, Skinner, Richards

That's a pretty good team. Weaker in every aspect than our A team, though the forwards are pretty close, IMO. Defense is where the real disparity lies.

Ofc it can compete against other countrie. You are giving too much credit to latvia and finnish defensive play and some good goaltending. I bet even the C team can be competitive (maybe not win aganst top countries).

 

[bursilym]

Canadas 4th line centre was Tavares, a guy who would likely be the 1st line centre on every other countries team.

We scratched the reigning Norris winner.

The depth is there. They would be in tough, but it could happen.

Yea I dont understand people putting our players down because of playing against good goaltending and defensive system and not blowing them out. Same can happen to Team World too. What makes our players any lesser than players from other countries. Most of our players are doing equally good if not better than foreign players in the NHL.