What lol..yes they could, let's not over blow this and make it sound impossible. Thats one hell of a team but there's a reason why we're considered the best. We're the only country that could keep up and compete against a world team, it would be close IMO. Canada could win.
You put that world team up against a team with Crosby, Stamkos, Tavares, Duchene, Giroux, Price, Weber, Doughty, Nash, Carter etc. Hall, (McDavid, RNH, MacKinnon down the line) It's close and yes we could win
Felstead
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Nailed it.
No question. Canada has the best players in the world, what other nation could make 3 or 4 team Canada's that could compete? Answer:None.
The way the players in Canada play our "system" is remarkable, other nations are STILL trying to figure out how to do it. Until they do, Canada wins majority of the time.
Things that are the same:
- Planning the parade route.
- Saying 'shutout' before the game is over.
- This thread.
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Honestly, if that is the best you can do, I am confident we win.
PLease keep Ovechkin and Kovy on the team.
Robb_K
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Team Canada should win, as they have a tenacious puck possession game with a smothering defence, and strong forechecking game. They will neutralise Sweden's highly-skilled offence (whose top 2 lines are devastated with H, Sedin and Zetterberg. Yet, Canada's offence would have been better even if The Swedes would have been fukky healthy. Canada's goaltending is about equal with Sweden's. I expect Canada to win 4-2.
Felstead
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Haha, to me that looks like a team with no chemistry and some underachievers.
Oh, and soft players.
Having a bunch of the same type of skilled players that we know the names too already and put them together and call them "the world team" doesn't all of a sudden make them unstoppable. We'll just get our Olympic team back together and beat them 
It's called depth and we have LOADS of it.
It's called depth and we have LOADS of it.
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This is a silly thread for a number of reasons.
But lets look at the first tangible indicator of what Canada vs world looks like;
http://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/nationality-totals/nhl-players-2011-12-stats.html
So 53.2% of all players in the NHL, top league in the world, are Canadian. That should tell people right off the bat Canada could compete with the rest of the world.
But I'll go a step further here. Team Canada would actually do BETTER playing a World team composed from several nations.
Why?
Canadians play a style of game recognizable to other Canadians. It wouldn't be, and rarely is a quantum leap for top Canadian players to get together and start playing at a high level. Canadian players, and a Canadian team, would have a distinct advantage in a Canada vs World matchup in that there would be more familiarity in style of play with Team Canada vs a world team collection of players from different nations . It would be harder for the world club to get it together. For instance there would be so much difference in US vs Swedish playing styles. How does a world team mesh and what system or style of play would it defer to? What style of play would be inate? How much continual confusion would that create? Unless the World team had a lot of time to prep, strategize, familiarize they would be in trouble. No matter how talented.
Some more food for thought. NHL a long time ago used to have an allstar format of SC champion vs league allstars. Not too much of a surprise the SC champs (usually the Montreal Canadiens) often ended up winning.
But lets look at the first tangible indicator of what Canada vs world looks like;
http://www.quanthockey.com/nhl/nationality-totals/nhl-players-2011-12-stats.html
So 53.2% of all players in the NHL, top league in the world, are Canadian. That should tell people right off the bat Canada could compete with the rest of the world.
But I'll go a step further here. Team Canada would actually do BETTER playing a World team composed from several nations.
Why?
Canadians play a style of game recognizable to other Canadians. It wouldn't be, and rarely is a quantum leap for top Canadian players to get together and start playing at a high level. Canadian players, and a Canadian team, would have a distinct advantage in a Canada vs World matchup in that there would be more familiarity in style of play with Team Canada vs a world team collection of players from different nations . It would be harder for the world club to get it together. For instance there would be so much difference in US vs Swedish playing styles. How does a world team mesh and what system or style of play would it defer to? What style of play would be inate? How much continual confusion would that create? Unless the World team had a lot of time to prep, strategize, familiarize they would be in trouble. No matter how talented.
Some more food for thought. NHL a long time ago used to have an allstar format of SC champion vs league allstars. Not too much of a surprise the SC champs (usually the Montreal Canadiens) often ended up winning.
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probably be a close game, maybe a slight edge to world, but overall would be a nail biter. A healthy Stamkos would also do wonders for a team that isnt scoring much like Canada.
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Haven't we learned anything from these games? Ovi and Malkin just doesn't work. Ovi needs a guy who will feed him the puck without expecting a feed.Backstrom doesn't mind being in Ovi's shadow, even though he's the better all around player. The relationship works. Ovi needs to be THE guy, otherwise he becomes a detriment.
Quite Frankly, I'm not too impressed by the roster posted above. I think Canada could definitely beat them. Will some of these guys be content playing 9-10 mins when they usually play 19-20? Will they be as effective?
Also, on small ice, I'm all in on Canada.
No that offence isn't way better than Canada's sorry to burst your bubble.
All people are doing is taking the best names and putting them on a team. Canada makes up 53% of ALL NHL players..LOL you can pick and choose any non-Canadian player and we'll match you with one of ours. The only area where the world has an advantage would be in net, but even then only one can play.
You're telling me a team with Tavares, Stamkos, Giroux, Hall, RNH, MacKinnon, Duchene, MSL, Perry, Getzlaf, Doughty, Weber, Price, Subban, Pietrangelo, Seguin etc etc etc. couldn't beat a world team LMFAO get out of here.
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Slow down bud. Never said they couldn't win, just that it doesn't seem likely. So chill.
Again, we could very well lose to Sweden on Sunday, and though we dominated the US today, could have lost there too.
As I said, in a one game wins all thing, I think Canada could win. I said it was a lot less likely in a seven game series, because the depth and talent of the world team over a series of games would be harder to overcome. Canada is winning at these Olympics primarily because its defensive depth is so superior to any other team, but the world's defense would be right up there with Canada's, taking away our primary advantage.
And that offense is superior to what Canada is rolling with right now. Canada is having a hard time finishing. (Stamkos and Giroux would help a ton, of course.) It definitely has as much or more upper end talent, and some great two way players as well. And that is off the top of my head, there are other players like Hossa, Backstrom, Backes, Koivu, Kovalchuk, etc... that you could add in.
It's all hypothetical, and opinion based, and there are a ton of variables like time played together, coaching, team construction, NA ice vs Euro ice, etc...
haveandare
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Wow. Canada barely beats Latvia, then they beat the US and they can maybe beat every other country combined?
They were really good today and they beat a good US team convincingly. How cocky can some fans get after one good win?
They were really good today and they beat a good US team convincingly. How cocky can some fans get after one good win?
I agree, generally speaking. Though Canada does seem to play up or down to its opponent, usually. Which is why today was their best game of the tourney. So against a great World team, they might really bring their A game.
Still, I think the World would have to be solid favourites.
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the game is still played 20 vs 20. name me any ''world player'' and ill name you an equal or better canadian player, including in goal what has lundqvist done that price hasnt?
your ''world team'' would be favorites only to people who dont know hockey
Ah, so people who disagree with you "don't know hockey." Got it.
Of course the game is played 20 vs 20. That also limits Canada's prodigious depth, which many people have been lauding in this thread.
The hockey argument (though of course I clearly know nothing about hockey) that I've been putting out there is that the World's defense would equal Canada's (and goaltending would arguably be superior). That negates Canada's biggest advantage. We used to have a clear advantage with the best forwards in the world, and usually the best goalie. Not anymore. Now we have the best defense of any country, but the World could ice an incredible defensive six or seven.
That leaves the forwards, where the theoretical lineup I hastily threw together should, I believe, be considered better than what Canada is currently showcasing. It is very evident that Canada is having a hard time finishing (Stamkos and Giroux would make a big difference, yes). The World team would have some lethal playmakers, finishers, speed, and two-way play, and their powerplay would be obscene.
Questions remain, of course, about how the world team would play together, what system they would employ, what their whole-team defensive commitment would be, and so forth. But over a theoretical seven game series, it is very reasonable to suggest the World would be favourites. A one game championship is a different matter.
Do u see me talking bout canada winning the gold or some ****? Are u blind? I'm asking if Canada could beat a rest of the world team isn't that simple?
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