WJC: Canada-Russia Series

[EveryDay]

Hicketts
Fleury
Sanheim
Chabot
Dermott
Mckoewen
Hickey
Leblanc
Juulsen

7 of these guys will be there.

I don't know who they would pick between Dermott or McKeown......

 

[BondraTime]

Angle is pure garbage

 

[w e l o s t b o y s]

well that was a stinker

 

[X66]

Angle is pure garbage

I feel like I'm IN the game.

And I hate it.

 

[HispanicAtTheDisco]

Talk about a lucky bounce

 

[wishywashy19]

I feel like I'm IN the game.

And I hate it.

It wasn't great TV but it sure makes the game look sloppy
I missed most of the game
Gauthier looks decent but I wasn't happy with any D
Too many neutral zone soft passes and not hard enough on the, puck
Russia deserved win

 

[Fantomas]

As usual, QMJHL easiest to play against.

 

[hab 4ever]

As usual, QMJHL easiest to play against.

Russia got 20 shots on goal (against 35) and won because the QMJHL goalie gave up two absolute softies...

 

[wings5]

As usual, QMJHL easiest to play against.

They are probably the fastest CHL team with a strong forcheck as usual but play very direct and lack anyone with elite skills who can make plays against strong competition ( Marner, Point ). There were only a few who were slightly better than the rest of the team. Speed kills but you need puck poise and high hockey IQ to match.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

I believe its likely that Marner will be on Strome's right side (Marner has great agility but his game isn't really based on speed...his skating style is reminiscent of Patrick Kane) and either Crouse or Dal Colle on the left side. I'm somewhat skeptical as to how Strome will perform on the international ice but overall if the coaching staff deploys him with linemates who suit his methodical, patient, possession style of play, I expect him to be fine. Much like the Getzlaf line at Sochi, a Strome line may be a good change of pace from faster, attacking offensive players like Point, Barzal, Beauvillier, Konecny, etc.

I don't think you can compare Getzlaf's skating to Strome's: Getzlaf's overall skating skills are far superior. As for a change of pace, that may work in pitching, but being caught slow on the larger European ice is a prescription for failure. What concern's me is that Strome won't be able to execute his defensive responsibilities and his lack of foot speed will lead to multiple odd man rushes against his team when he is on the ice. As in the past, when we sent other large, slow players, Strome will be exposed on the bigger ice surface. Canada has many elite skaters who don't have Strome's bloated statistics but who will excel on the bigger ice surface. Let us hope Team Canada follows their oft quoted intention of selecting only players who can skate. It's a simple mantra: Don't get caught slow.

 

[86Habs]

I don't think you can compare Getzlaf's skating to Strome's: Getzlaf's overall skating skills are far superior. As for a change of pace, that may work in pitching, but being caught slow on the larger European ice is a prescription for failure. What concern's me is that Strome won't be able to execute his defensive responsibilities and his lack of foot speed will lead to multiple odd man rushes against his team when he is on the ice. As in the past, when we sent other large, slow players, Strome will be exposed on the bigger ice surface. Canada has many elite skaters who don't have Strome's bloated statistics but who will excel on the bigger ice surface. Let us hope Team Canada follows their oft quoted intention of selecting only players who can skate. It's a simple mantra: Don't get caught slow.

Firstly, I wasn't comparing Getzlaf's and Strome's pure skating ability, moreso their style of play and how Strome would likely be deployed in an international tournament. What Getzlaf lacks in acceleration he makes up for in good agility and balance, and is a pretty good skater at top stride (Perry is a different story). I'm also aware of Strome's skating deficiencies, and not just that, but his lack of motor and hustle away from the puck. I haven't seen him live yet this year, but from my understanding he's improved in this area as compared to last year.

In terms of the World Junior tournament, I don't think offensive talent like that should be left out of the 13-man forward group. If Lowry has similar concerns to you and I (and we are not alone), he'll line Stome up with a strong defensive player and skater like Crouse, who can also contribute offensively. If I were Lowry I would certainly start him in offensive situations only. If it doesn't work out, he'll drop down the depth chart. Simple as that (IMO).

 

[1Gold Standard]

Firstly, I wasn't comparing Getzlaf's and Strome's pure skating ability, moreso their style of play and how Strome would likely be deployed in an international tournament. What Getzlaf lacks in acceleration he makes up for in good agility and balance, and is a pretty good skater at top stride (Perry is a different story). I'm also aware of Strome's skating deficiencies, and not just that, but his lack of motor and hustle away from the puck. I haven't seen him live yet this year, but from my understanding he's improved in this area as compared to last year.

In terms of the World Junior tournament, I don't think offensive talent like that should be left out of the 13-man forward group. If Lowry has similar concerns to you and I (and we are not alone), he'll line Stome up with a strong defensive player and skater like Crouse, who can also contribute offensively. If I were Lowry I would certainly start him in offensive situations only. If it doesn't work out, he'll drop down the depth chart. Simple as that (IMO).

I still have reservations regarding Strome's skating on big ice, but I agree, he should be on the roster and paired with the right players. At worst, Strome and Marner on big ice on the PP. should be lethal. Looking forward to it.

 

[86Habs]

I still have reservations regarding Strome's skating on big ice, but I agree, he should be on the roster and paired with the right players. At worst, Strome and Marner on big ice on the PP. should be lethal. Looking forward to it.

Yes, that really is the worse case. Lowry is no dummy, I trust that he'll acknowledge Strome's limitations and put him in the right position to succeed.

 

[JackSlater]

I'm disappointed in the showing by the Q. I really like Beauvillier, and I like several of the defencemen (Chabot, Meloche, Roy, Carrier, though he didn't play). Hoping for a better showing in Halifax, especially with McDonald in net.

Regarding Strome, Canada doesn't have the luxury of leaving a player like him at home. If Canada had McDavid, Bennett, Fabbri and McCann to run down the middle? Sure, pick and choose from the remaining elite players. That is not the case though, and they will need all of the available top players.

 

[Atas2000]

As usual, QMJHL easiest to play against.

This goes both ways. We have our best additions from the Q too.

 

[Yakushev72]

Russia got 20 shots on goal (against 35) and won because the QMJHL goalie gave up two absolute softies...

I don't think me meant that as a taunt! I think he was referring to the fact, over the history of this series, Russia has seemed to have more success against the QMJL than the other 2 leagues.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

I still have reservations regarding Strome's skating on big ice, but I agree, he should be on the roster and paired with the right players. At worst, Strome and Marner on big ice on the PP. should be lethal. Looking forward to it.

Playing defence on the big ice is a 5 man job. Any weak links and you are offering the opponent an offensive advantage. The question one should be asking is why are we selecting a player who has to be teamed with or propped up by his wingers? At this level of hockey, where you will be playing teams with elite speed, the margin for error is very small. Contrary to what some posters are opining, I think Strome is a luxury we can ill afford. If the tournament was being held on NHL sized rinks, then we can afford having a largely static player who has a good net presence and an NHL quality shot. But on the big ice surface, this type of player has, and will continue, to flounder.

 

[Zine]

Did Bragin play Svechnikov at W or C?

 

[docbenton]

Playing defence on the big ice is a 5 man job. Any weak links and you are offering the opponent an offensive advantage. The question one should be asking is why are we selecting a player who has to be teamed with or propped up by his wingers? At this level of hockey, where you will be playing teams with elite speed, the margin for error is very small. Contrary to what some posters are opining, I think Strome is a luxury we can ill afford. If the tournament was being held on NHL sized rinks, then we can afford having a largely static player who has a good net presence and an NHL quality shot. But on the big ice surface, this type of player has, and will continue, to flounder.

Strome is actually a decent defensive player and is really really good on faceoffs. He's underrated in that regard. The other reason to include him is he can shoot the puck, and if he has wingers who can set him up he can bury it. He might not have the time and space to be a playmaker like he is in the OHL but he can rip the puck.

 

[Fantomas]

I don't think me meant that as a taunt! I think he was referring to the fact, over the history of this series, Russia has seemed to have more success against the QMJL than the other 2 leagues.

Yep. It's just facts.

 

[tfantasy]

Probably the worst team I've seen the Russians send over

 

[cska78]

Did Bragin play Svechnikov at W or C?

Thought he played wing

 

[Plub]

I don't think you can compare Getzlaf's skating to Strome's: Getzlaf's overall skating skills are far superior. As for a change of pace, that may work in pitching, but being caught slow on the larger European ice is a prescription for failure. What concern's me is that Strome won't be able to execute his defensive responsibilities and his lack of foot speed will lead to multiple odd man rushes against his team when he is on the ice. As in the past, when we sent other large, slow players, Strome will be exposed on the bigger ice surface. Canada has many elite skaters who don't haveStrome's bloated statistics but who will excel on the bigger ice surface. Let us hope Team Canada follows their oft quoted intention of selecting only players who can skate. It's a simple mantra: Don't get caught slow.

By all accounts, Strome's skating has clearly improved. From all the people that I have seen post or asked that have seen him with their eyes, his skating isn't the issue it was last year. And what do you mean "bloated" statistics? Are you implying he doesn't live up to the numbers he puts up?

 

[Atomos2]

As usual, QMJHL easiest to play against.

Correction: QMJHL goalies easiest to score against.

 

[Atomos2]

Are people actually debating whether to bring Strome or not? Are you insane? We don't have the luxury to be picky. Strome is a game changer, and we need as many of those as we can possibly get. Strome is on the team no ifs ands or buts.